Mike Godwin Joins the Review Options

[mnemonic]

Hi, folks. Mike Godwin here. Just checking in as requested. I think I've properly enabled email if you want to email me.

Best regards,

--Mike

[TungstenCarbide]

Hi, folks. Mike Godwin here. Just checking in as requested. I think I've properly enabled email if you want to email me.

Welcome Mike!

[gomi]

Hi, folks. Mike Godwin here. Just checking in as requested. I think I've properly enabled email if you want to email me.

Just an administrative note to point out that our user "mnemonic" did, in fact, register and validate using an email address that is widely known to be Mike Godwin's. I don't believe our interface points that out or reveals that address to our membership, but the "PM" interface will work to contact Mr. Godwin if he checks it from time to time.

Welcome to the Review, Mike.

[Zoloft]

Welcome, Mr. Godwin.
Here's a nice badge for you:

(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/US-FBI-Seal.svg/200px-US-FBI-Seal.svg.png)

[mnemonic]

It's a great image -- though not, technically, a "badge." And of course you're using the image lawfully here, just as Wikipedia continues to use it lawfully. (The FBI ceased to press its argument that the federal statute bars non-fraudulent, non-misrepresentative uses of the seal, once it was clear they were getting a lot of bad press over it.) And I would be happy to defend your use of it here if you're ever challenged about it.

[thekohser]

(The FBI ceased to press its argument that the federal statute bars non-fraudulent, non-misrepresentative uses of the seal, once it was clear they were getting a lot of bad press over it.)

Wouldn't have anything to do with the additional fact that the guy in charge of the "case" against the WMF happened to retire from his FBI career?

[mnemonic]

(The FBI ceased to press its argument that the federal statute bars non-fraudulent, non-misrepresentative uses of the seal, once it was clear they were getting a lot of bad press over it.)

Wouldn't have anything to do with the additional fact that the guy in charge of the "case" against the WMF happened to retire from his FBI career?

Not at all, since the guy in charge of the "case" against the WMF is not Larson, who retired, but Binney, who is still with the FBI. When I spoke with Larson, he referred to Binney as "the seal guy," and seemed to be a bit bemused that "the seal guy" had pressed him (Larson) to write a letter to WMF.

[thekohser]

Not at all, since the guy in charge of the "case" against the WMF is not Larson, who retired, but Binney, who is still with the FBI. When I spoke with Larson, he referred to Binney as "the seal guy," and seemed to be a bit bemused that "the seal guy" had pressed him (Larson) to write a letter to WMF.

LOL. Now that's funny. Touché.

We need more of these "inside baseball" vignettes, Mike!

[gomi]

... I would be happy to defend your use of it here if you're ever challenged about it.

Give that man a dollar bill, just like on Perry Mason. Mike Godwin is now the Review's lawyer!

All of our PMs to him can now be considered protected work product. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

[mnemonic]

... I would be happy to defend your use of it here if you're ever challenged about it.

Give that man a dollar bill, just like on Perry Mason. Mike Godwin is now the Review's lawyer!

All of our PMs to him can now be considered protected work product. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

I think I offered only to defend Zoloft's use of the FBI seal. (We distinguish between Zoloft the person and Wikipedia Review as a legal entity, right?) Certainly I can imagine contexts in which I could defend Wikipedia Review, provided that didn't require me to be adverse to any other current or former client.

Although to judge by consensus here, it's not clear that you would want me to defend you or WR, gomi.

[Zoloft]

... I would be happy to defend your use of it here if you're ever challenged about it.

Give that man a dollar bill, just like on Perry Mason. Mike Godwin is now the Review's lawyer!

All of our PMs to him can now be considered protected work product. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

I think I offered only to defend Zoloft's use of the FBI seal. (We distinguish between Zoloft the person and Wikipedia Review as a legal entity, right?) Certainly I can imagine contexts in which I could defend Wikipedia Review, provided that didn't require me to be adverse to any other current or former client.

Although to judge by consensus here, it's not clear that you would want me to defend you or WR, gomi.

I appreciate your offer to defend my use of the seal. That the FBI has a 'seal guy' amuses me mightily.

[EricBarbour]

Welcome to WR, Mike.

Your NDA has probably expired by now. (I'm assuming they are paranoid enough to force new employees
to sign an NDA, despite being an "open" project thing. Could be wrong, I'd like to be wrong.)

Would you be willing to share some insider stories?
Oh, right "attorney-client etc", nevermind.

If you ever want to see things about Wikipedia that Wikimedia didn't
tell you, please feel free to send me a PM.

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[Detective]

I'm willing to give him a chance here.

That's very decent of you.

Who knows if he will provide anything interesting or worth while.

Does anyone know if Ottava will?

[gomi]

Although to judge by consensus here, it's not clear that you would want me to defend you or WR, gomi.

a) Joke;
b) I am sure you would zealously defend anyone you took on as a client;
c) I don't think I've ever negatively commented on your work for the WMF, whether it is reprehensible or merely misguided;
d) It's OK. We've met several times over the years, but I didn't expect you to recognize me from my picture at the left. I've gained weight.

[EricBarbour]

c) I don't think I've ever negatively commented on your work for the WMF, whether it is reprehensible or merely misguided;

No problem, other people will do that for you, Gomi. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

[Vigilant]

I still think Godwin recently spent too much time exaggerating claims about abuse at Occupy Oakland and was hiding evidence of impropriety by those involved to try and get attention on himself, but I'm willing to give him a chance here. Who knows if he will provide anything interesting or worth while.

Weeping Jeebus on the cross,
You are the most pointless bag of protoplasm I've ever encountered.

[Jon Awbrey]

Nazi ❢

Jon (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

[Vigilant]

I still think Godwin recently spent too much time exaggerating claims about abuse at Occupy Oakland and was hiding evidence of impropriety by those involved to try and get attention on himself, but I'm willing to give him a chance here. Who knows if he will provide anything interesting or worth while.

Why on earth would I want to exaggerate claims about abuse? I posted an actual link to an actual video that, so far as anyone can tell, wasn't faked.

Why would I want to hide evidence of impropriety? Certainly I would get more "attention on myself" [sic] if I exposed evidence of impropriety that other reporters didn't see, right?

The fact is, I tweeted about events at Occupy Oakland when they happened, and Reason's editors, who follow me on Twitter, specifically asked me to write up a report about what I saw. Maybe Ottava thinks I somehow telepathically implanted that notion in their minds. (Or used NLP, because that's just how powerful a tweeter I am!)

You are forgetting a fight on Durova's facebook account where you were going on and on about how awful the police where while pretending all of the protesters were innocent little lambs that weren't throwing things, attacking people, etc. I know you use to know my real name, but I am willing to believe that you forgot it in the past year.

Mods,

Can you please ban Ottava?

There does not exist a thread in which he doesn't splatter fecal material every which way.

[Kelly Martin]

You are forgetting a fight on Durova's facebook account .. blah de blah ...

Just shut up, Ottava. Seriously. Why does everything on here always have to be about you? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/angry.gif)

It so totally amuses me that in a thread nominally about Mike Godwin, my own eponymous law gets demonstrated once again.

[melloden]

I still think Godwin recently spent too much time exaggerating claims about abuse at Occupy Oakland and was hiding evidence of impropriety by those involved to try and get attention on himself, but I'm willing to give him a chance here. Who knows if he will provide anything interesting or worth while.

Why on earth would I want to exaggerate claims about abuse? I posted an actual link to an actual video that, so far as anyone can tell, wasn't faked.

Why would I want to hide evidence of impropriety? Certainly I would get more "attention on myself" [sic] if I exposed evidence of impropriety that other reporters didn't see, right?

The fact is, I tweeted about events at Occupy Oakland when they happened, and Reason's editors, who follow me on Twitter, specifically asked me to write up a report about what I saw. Maybe Ottava thinks I somehow telepathically implanted that notion in their minds. (Or used NLP, because that's just how powerful a tweeter I am!)

You are forgetting a fight on Durova's facebook account where you were going on and on about how awful the police where while pretending all of the protesters were innocent little lambs that weren't throwing things, attacking people, etc. I know you use to know my real name, but I am willing to believe that you forgot it in the past year.

Mods,

Can you please ban Ottava?

There does not exist a thread in which he doesn't splatter fecal material every which way.

Seconded.

And to think he didn't understand why ArbCom banned him.