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There are many bad block imposed every day, but between these there are some unbelievable blocks. Maybe we could use this thread to discuss such blocks.


On 26 April 2009 Gwen Gale blocked user Funguy06 with the edit summary "(Vandalism-only account: no meaningfully encyclopedic edits)"
The user who started contributing to wikipedia in 2006 was blocked over this 2009 edit as being "vandalism only" account. Really?

But see the article now. Heidi Montag (T-H-L-K-D) and compare it the edit in question(the last edit of the user)
Funguy06 was right! He vandalized nothing. Not only he made a good faith edit, it was an encyclopedic edit as well.This block is not just a bad block. This block is unbelievable. The user is gone. He did not even bother to write an unblock request.

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Beyond clueless.

Meta RfC/Gwen Gale filed by ...

mbz1.

Speaks in first person, but hasn't signed it. Wrong venue, i.e., meta has no jurisdiction over the issues raised. Might as well file it here. Ottava tried this one. Ottava has nine lives. mbz1 probably doesn't.

Waste of time.

I ran process on meta when meta actions were in order, such as the removal of the blacklisting of lenr-canr.org, or reviewing *meta* blocks, or global bans through the SUL lock facility accessed at meta.

Emergency desysoppings can be done at meta, but stewards will want to see either true emergency (or the claim of one, as SBJ did in asking for my Wikiversity admin bit to be lifted. He lied, bottom line) or a local consensus on the affected wiki. I.e., mbz1, you'd have to show a *Wikipedia consensus*. You can't possibly get that at meta, even if you could get enough interested editors to support whatever you want, which is about impossible itself.

At one time there were serious discussions at meta and dissent was handled as a necessary part of the process. That's changed, meta is now *worse* than Wikipedia. The heavy hitters, the truly good guys, like Lar, are gone. There are a few good stewards, but they've been notably ineffectual against the oozing slime.
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QUOTE(Abd @ Sat 28th January 2012, 10:36pm) *


Waste of time.


I was sure nothing will come out of this, but I strongly believe that administrative abuse should be documented. If I wrote the same request on Wiki it would have probably be deleted. At meta it stays.
The more people are to read it the better.At least the dishonest bully Gwen Gale will think twice before issuing another bad block.
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QUOTE(Abd @ Sat 28th January 2012, 10:36pm) *
Waste of time.
I was sure nothing will come out of this, but I strongly believe that administrative abuse should be documented. If I wrote the same request on Wiki it would have probably be deleted. At meta it stays.
The more people are to read it the better.At least the dishonest bully Gwen Gale will think twice before issuing another bad block.
You're dreaming, mbz1. I doubt the RfC will have any effect at all on Gwen Gale, whether she is honest or dishonest, whether her blocks are good or bad. The RfC was such a farrago of charges, incompetently presented, that I didn't read any of it with care. The first problem, which most readers will have, is that it's in a completely wrong place, meta. Meta is not for airing grudges. It's for cross-wiki coordination.

Bad blocks are common on Wikipedia. Good administrators sometimes issue bad blocks. A sysop may have many bad blocks and actually still be a good administrator. It's a question of balance.

Further, one administrator is still only one administrator. The real problem isn't bad administrators, as individuals. The real problem is dysfunctional structure, such that review and appeal processes are broken and stacked against a complainant. Making it worse is the general lack of good counseling for those blocked. I used to do this, and was sometimes successful in assisting blocked editors to handle the situation in a way that would get them and leave them unblocked. That was stopped by ArbComm with its "MYOB" sanction, even though there was *no* evidence even presented, no allegation that my "interventions" had been doing harm. The MYOB sanction was a blunt instrument, affecting a large body of work, as a device to address what was, for ArbComm, the real problem: that I'd intervened *when neutral* with an administrator, JzG, one of their pets.

(That was about JzG's unilateral blacklisting of lenr-canr.org, the cold fusion "library," and it started before I had a clue about cold fusion, other than knowing some of the history from 1989, when I was aware of the announcement and the later rejection -- and thought that cold fusion was probably bogus. But the blacklisting was beyond the pale, as ArbComm later concluded. They wanted to spank me then, the hacked emails revealed, but had no excuse yet.)

It was truly ironic: as written, the sanction allowed me to go to bat for a cause where I was involved, not where I wasn't. In other words, neutrality was to be punished. I thought it was completely brilliant as a demonstration of just how idiotic ArbComm had become. However, the sanction was interpreted more and more mindlessly and literally, with definitions shifting, until almost every edit became a "violation."

Just my story, there are a million stories in the wiki-city. I lasted an amazingly long time, given how much of a challenge to the oligarchy I was (as perceived by them).
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