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Posted by: MZMcBride

Anyone been following Encyclopedia Dramatica? It seems they've changed formats. I'm kind of surprised to not see a thread about it here already, though it's certainly possible I just missed it. Or maybe this place is just kinda dead at the moment.

Posted by: melloden

Any news, Alison? I thought they were just down temporarily and set up a new site like that one Internet meme thing for kids.

Posted by: EricBarbour

Hey guys! If you think that ohinternet.com is a "new format" of ED, I've got some nice swampland you really need to buy....

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 15th April 2011, 3:18am) *

Hey guys! If you think that ohinternet.com is a "new format" of ED, I've got some nice swampland you really need to buy....


It's not a reformatted ED. Oh Internet was constructed from scratch.

Posted by: WikiWatch

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Fri 15th April 2011, 12:07am) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 15th April 2011, 3:18am) *

Hey guys! If you think that ohinternet.com is a "new format" of ED, I've got some nice swampland you really need to buy....


It's not a reformatted ED. Oh Internet was constructed from scratch.


Why did Ed close? Was there some lawsuit we don't know about? Seems strange it just vanished like that.

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

QUOTE(WikiWatch @ Fri 15th April 2011, 5:24am) *

Why did Ed close? Was there some lawsuit we don't know about? Seems strange it just vanished like that.


For official answers, please Email contact@ohinternet.com.

Posted by: Somey

My sources tell me that the redirect is a temporary measure, and that ohinternet.com is simply a "holding domain" to be used while authorities search for Sherrod DeGrippo's stolen wig collection.

Apparently Ms. DeGrippo had an astonishingly large collection of wigs. Why she would want to steal so many is still a bit of a mystery, but we all have our little foibles and eccentricities, I suppose.

Posted by: Daniel Brandt

http://ohinternet.com/index.php?title=Oh_Internet:Oh_Internet_is_not&diff=prev&oldid=16256. Neither did any rational observer with a social conscience. Good riddance.

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Fri 15th April 2011, 12:14am) *
Good riddance.

Wait a minute, are you saying none of those stolen wigs will ever be returned to their rightful owners?

Think of all the endangered mountain gorillas out there who now have no pubic hair, and for what? It all seems so tragically pointless.

Posted by: Daniel Brandt

QUOTE
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:14] <sherrod> i fucking hate ED so much
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <Cunt_Destroyer> fucking SAD
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <sherrod> the whold fucking thing
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:19] <Cunt_Destroyer> AS FUCK
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:20] <sherrod> ther eis nothing redeeming about it
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:23] <sherrod> burn to ground
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:36] <hipcrime> it was good for a while
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:56] <sherrod> hipcrime: i dunni
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:58] <sherrod> maybe
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:03] <sherrod> i think that btards ruined it
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:05] <sherrod> 12 year olds
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:06] <sherrod> etc
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:18] <hipcrime> yeah.
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:20] <Finney> sherrod: 5 years ago we should have just started auto-deleting ever crap article made
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:25] <Finney> and driven the fags away
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:32] <sherrod> Finney: AGREE
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:44] <Finney> We need a time machine
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:56] <ttj> you could always start over
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:58] <sherrod> Finney: i made a mistake by letting people do whatever they want
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:07] <sherrod> i didnt check in or care and it just went completely retarded
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:19] <Finney> I understand doing it in the name of "no censorship"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:39] <Finney> but I guess it should have been "no censorship except for unfunny shit"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:59] <sherrod> yeah
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:08] <sherrod> clearly anonymous free speech does not work
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:09] <Finney> And then Nigger would still be there, because people would GET THE FUCKING JOKE
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <sherrod> that is what i have learned
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <F_JUNK_DUMP> And delete all these crap articles
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:30] <Finney> sherrod: kinda sad you still had faith in humanity, lol

Posted by: WikiWatch

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Fri 15th April 2011, 1:51am) *

QUOTE
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:14] <sherrod> i fucking hate ED so much
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <Cunt_Destroyer> fucking SAD
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <sherrod> the whold fucking thing
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:19] <Cunt_Destroyer> AS FUCK
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:20] <sherrod> ther eis nothing redeeming about it
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:23] <sherrod> burn to ground
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:36] <hipcrime> it was good for a while
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:56] <sherrod> hipcrime: i dunni
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:58] <sherrod> maybe
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:03] <sherrod> i think that btards ruined it
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:05] <sherrod> 12 year olds
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:06] <sherrod> etc
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:18] <hipcrime> yeah.
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:20] <Finney> sherrod: 5 years ago we should have just started auto-deleting ever crap article made
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:25] <Finney> and driven the fags away
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:32] <sherrod> Finney: AGREE
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:44] <Finney> We need a time machine
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:56] <ttj> you could always start over
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:58] <sherrod> Finney: i made a mistake by letting people do whatever they want
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:07] <sherrod> i didnt check in or care and it just went completely retarded
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:19] <Finney> I understand doing it in the name of "no censorship"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:39] <Finney> but I guess it should have been "no censorship except for unfunny shit"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:59] <sherrod> yeah
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:08] <sherrod> clearly anonymous free speech does not work
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:09] <Finney> And then Nigger would still be there, because people would GET THE FUCKING JOKE
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <sherrod> that is what i have learned
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <F_JUNK_DUMP> And delete all these crap articles
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:30] <Finney> sherrod: kinda sad you still had faith in humanity, lol



The log proves the cream of wikipedia's intelligentsia edited there.

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Thu 14th April 2011, 10:51pm) *

[Mar 20 2011 01:33:03] <sherrod> i think that btards ruined it
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:05] <sherrod> 12 year olds
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:06] <sherrod> etc
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:18] <hipcrime> yeah.
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:20] <Finney> sherrod: 5 years ago we should have just started auto-deleting ever crap article made
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:25] <Finney> and driven the fags away
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:32] <sherrod> Finney: AGREE

Is THAT who she blames? Ha ha ha.

Mebbe I should sell HER the swampland.

Mr. Brandt, did you finally get thru to them, and that's why ED is "gone for good"?
If so, a) good fer you and have a drink, and b) where am I gonna go to look up
crazy people from Livejournal and Deviant Art? That was practically the only legitimate
use ED had--it listed some of the worst net-trolls. In a maybe-not-deserved
shit-on-their-heads format, granted.
But at least there was something. How else can you find out that wackos like
Snapesnogger and Jessica Elwood aren't who they say they are?

Posted by: Somey

But isn't this always how these things end up? I mean, you put together a perfectly good shock site, dedicated to racism, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, and advocacy of a wide variety of sexual perversions, only to have it ruined by 12-year-old btard fgz. I mean, what's the point of even trying anymore? confused.gif

Posted by: carbuncle

QUOTE(Somey @ Fri 15th April 2011, 5:22am) *

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Fri 15th April 2011, 12:14am) *
Good riddance.

Wait a minute, are you saying none of those stolen wigs will ever be returned to their rightful owners?

Think of all the endangered mountain gorillas out there who now have no pubic hair, and for what? It all seems so tragically pointless.


Posted by: Daniel Brandt

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 15th April 2011, 12:27am) *

Mr. Brandt, did you finally get thru to them, and that's why ED is "gone for good"?

I would say that http://josephevers.blogspot.com/ hastened the inevitable.

I helped with the research and the photos, and logged IRC for 8 months, but I don't have the password to the site. The owner of that blog is someone you all don't know from WR. I don't even know what country he/she lives in. He/she is that lovable all-Tor-all-the-time researcher on WR. A damn good researcher. Hats off to him/her.

Posted by: carbuncle

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Fri 15th April 2011, 2:49pm) *
He/she is that lovable all-Tor-all-the-time researcher on WR. A damn good researcher. Hats off to him/her.

A sinister little midget with a bucket and a mop? wink.gif

Posted by: Emperor

QUOTE(Somey @ Fri 15th April 2011, 2:46am) *

But isn't this always how these things end up? I mean, you put together a perfectly good shock site, dedicated to racism, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, and advocacy of a wide variety of sexual perversions, only to have it ruined by 12-year-old btard fgz. I mean, what's the point of even trying anymore? confused.gif


laugh.gif lousy kids.

Posted by: Theanima

This new "ohinternet" is down for me...

Posted by: Sarcasticidealist

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Fri 15th April 2011, 2:14am) *
Good riddance.
I'll drink to that. And to more or less anything else, these days. But don't let my nascent alcoholism diminish the glory of this accomplishment.

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Fri 15th April 2011, 7:06pm) *
I'll drink to that. And to more or less anything else, these days. But don't let my nascent alcoholism diminish the glory of this accomplishment.



It seemed appropriate...

Posted by: Daniel Brandt

QUOTE(Theanima @ Fri 15th April 2011, 5:27pm) *

This new "ohinternet" is down for me...

One or two btards (see /b/ subheading in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan) were DDoSing ohinternet.com with their Low Orbit Internet Cannon. This resulted in massive packet losses on the last hop, and your connection timed out. But it's past their bedtime now, and everything seems okay.

The btard reaction to the ohinternet.com "sell-out" surprises me. They're throwing tantrums, thereby confirming Sherrod's low opinion of them.

But the larger issue is that ED should have purged these losers in 2006. ED waited too long, and now there are a lot of them, and they are all mad as hell at Sherrod. Most of ED's high traffic was fueled by the btard affinity for vulgarity and kinkiness. It will be difficult for ohinternet.com to succeed without that sort of magnetism, it seems to me.

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Fri 15th April 2011, 8:02pm) *
But the larger issue is that ED should have purged these losers in 2006. ED waited too long, and now there are a lot of them, and they are all mad as hell at Sherrod. Most of ED's high traffic was fueled by the btard affinity for vulgarity and kinkiness. It will be difficult for ohinternet.com to succeed without that sort of magnetism, it seems to me.

Nothing succeeds on the net like douchebaggery. Even more popular than porn, I suspect.

Do you know how many 4chan-type imageboards there are now? Hundreds, easily.
Most of them started by, and dominated by, the kind of 14-year-old bigots that helped
make /b/ world-famous. ED used to have a good list of _chans, but that's gone now.
http://shii.org/2ch/ is pathetic by comparison.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(WikiWatch @ Thu 14th April 2011, 10:57pm) *

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Fri 15th April 2011, 1:51am) *

QUOTE
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:14] <sherrod> i fucking hate ED so much
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <Cunt_Destroyer> fucking SAD
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <sherrod> the whold fucking thing
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:19] <Cunt_Destroyer> AS FUCK
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:20] <sherrod> ther eis nothing redeeming about it
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:23] <sherrod> burn to ground
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:36] <hipcrime> it was good for a while
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:56] <sherrod> hipcrime: i dunni
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:58] <sherrod> maybe
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:03] <sherrod> i think that btards ruined it
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:05] <sherrod> 12 year olds
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:06] <sherrod> etc
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:18] <hipcrime> yeah.
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:20] <Finney> sherrod: 5 years ago we should have just started auto-deleting ever crap article made
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:25] <Finney> and driven the fags away
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:32] <sherrod> Finney: AGREE
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:44] <Finney> We need a time machine
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:56] <ttj> you could always start over
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:58] <sherrod> Finney: i made a mistake by letting people do whatever they want
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:07] <sherrod> i didnt check in or care and it just went completely retarded
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:19] <Finney> I understand doing it in the name of "no censorship"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:39] <Finney> but I guess it should have been "no censorship except for unfunny shit"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:59] <sherrod> yeah
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:08] <sherrod> clearly anonymous free speech does not work
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:09] <Finney> And then Nigger would still be there, because people would GET THE FUCKING JOKE
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <sherrod> that is what i have learned
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <F_JUNK_DUMP> And delete all these crap articles
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:30] <Finney> sherrod: kinda sad you still had faith in humanity, lol



The log proves the cream of wikipedia's intelligentsia edited there.

Kinda reminds me of uncensored Bevis+Butthead meets blue stoner standup. You have to smoke a lot of weed to even read it. (I imagine)

Posted by: bi-winning

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Fri 15th April 2011, 8:06pm) *

Kinda reminds me of uncensored Bevis+Butthead meets blue stoner standup. You have to smoke a lot of weed to even read it. (I imagine)

I also... imagine.

Good job, whoever killed it.

Posted by: MZMcBride

For the record, the new site is still using MediaWiki: <http://ohinternet.com/Special:Version>. I'm not quite sure why I thought otherwise; must've been the skin change or something.

The new site seems to be pretty terrible. If you want to legitimately cover Internet-related topics, you use Wikipedia. The niche that ED filled was to cover Internet culture in a more amusing and chaotic way. I can't see this new site going anywhere.

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Encyclopedia_Dramatica#New_ED_is_up

What gives these people the right to usurp the Encyclopedia Dramatica name and steal over six hard years of other authors' work?

Posted by: lilburne

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Sun 17th April 2011, 2:34am) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Encyclopedia_Dramatica#New_ED_is_up

What gives these people the right to usurp the Encyclopedia Dramatica name and steal over six hard years of other authors' work?



CC-BY-SA
. Ah I see they didn't use the CC licenses. If the server is in the US send a DMCA notice, or file a complaint with the domain registrar.

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

QUOTE(lilburne @ Sun 17th April 2011, 9:08am) *

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Sun 17th April 2011, 2:34am) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Encyclopedia_Dramatica#New_ED_is_up

What gives these people the right to usurp the Encyclopedia Dramatica name and steal over six hard years of other authors' work?



CC-BY-SA
. Ah I see they didn't use the CC licenses. If the server is in the US send a DMCA notice, or file a complaint with the domain registrar.


Due to the Anonymous myth they buy into, these people don't believe in accountability or responsibility. They don't believe that their actions could have consequences. The only way to make them respect ED's copyrights would be to break the myth with a sharp slap in the face and to make them realize that they could be held accountable.

Posted by: Theanima

QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sat 16th April 2011, 7:43pm) *

If you want to legitimately cover Internet-related topics, you use Wikipedia. The niche that ED filled was to cover Internet culture in a more amusing and chaotic way. I can't see this new site going anywhere.


It seems to cover many topics that WP wouldn't consider notable enough, or would have people screaming "BLP!".

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Sat 16th April 2011, 6:34pm) *
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Encyclopedia_Dramatica#New_ED_is_up

What gives these people the right to usurp the Encyclopedia Dramatica name and steal over six hard years of other authors' work?

Evidently, ED filled a real need. A need for shitheads to abuse each other, and everyone else.

The http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Main_Page is kinda pathetic, like an homage assembled by bored teenagers (which it probably was).
The server keeps crashing out too.

Oh, btw.....http://gawker.com/#!5792738/what-happened-to-encyclopedia-dramatica take on all this ED crap.
Please note this statement:
QUOTE
If DeGrippo sounds suspiciously like someone hoping to sell a hot property—meme-documentation rival Know Your Meme was recently sold to The Cheezburger Network for a "low seven-figure payday"—she's not letting on.

Posted by: EricBarbour

Believe it or not, the Web Ecology Project is http://www.webecologyproject.org/2011/04/archiving-internet-subculture-encyclopedia-dramatica/ the old ED.......

For a look at the anger of the trolls who made ED what it was, try the http://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/.

Posted by: Daniel Brandt

I asked Queen Sherrod to delete my bio on ED, after being informed by an ED insider that she was the final arbiter of all disputed content on ED. I was informed by this insider that the Queen got my email, didn't recognize my name, and then informed this insider that she (the Queen) had decided not to reply to me.

I lobbied further with the help of this insider to get my bio deleted. But this sympathetic insider felt that he/she did not have the power to do this unilaterally, even though he/she was an administrator on ED.

When Sheneequa was doxed a few weeks later (thanks to efforts by my research partner who later started http://josephevers.blogspot.com), this ED insider (a different person from my research partner) suddenly obtained permission to delete my bio. But by then my thinking was that there are a lot of real-life names on ED, and to put it simply, the entire site did not deserve to exist. Anyone who asked for deletion of their name from ED was treated with the utmost contempt, conveniently disguised as "lulz."

Already there are a lot of real-life names showing up on OhInternet.com. Queen Sherrod should be a lot more cautious about this; she needs to establish a policy.

QUOTE

To: Sherrod DeGrippo, Encyclopedia Dramatica
sherrod@girlvinyl.com
cc: [redacted]
From: Daniel Brandt, Public Information Research
Date: August 30, 2010

Dear Ms. DeGrippo:

Do you have an email address for Long Dong Silver? Or if you prefer,
can you forward this email to him?

Earlier this month, he wrote this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/cz9qv/iama_long_time_encyclopedia_dramatica_sysop_ama/c0wfrm3

"As a note to any other people with a similar issue. When requesting a
removal or edit to a page, a nicely worded email will often suffice.
Cursing, ranting, and frivolous legal threats result in it being
featured on the front page as the Article Of The Now."

I wish to request the removal of the article about me on ED:
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Daniel_Brandt

It shows up as number 1 in both Google and Yahoo in a search for
"daniel brandt" without the quotation marks. Bing.com apparently has
the good taste to not index this page at all.

I am president of a tax-exempt public charity, and our board of directors
feels that this article has a negative impact on our ability to obtain
foundation funding to support our projects. They have asked me to request
that it be deleted.

Thank you,
Daniel Brandt

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Public Information Research, PO Box 680635, San Antonio TX 78268-0635
www.namebase.org [redacted]@sbcglobal.net
---------------------------------------------------------------------



Posted by: radek

QUOTE
Bing.com apparently has the good taste to not index this page at all.


I've actually switched to using Bing as opposed to google in part for this reason. It's sort of like quitting smoking, you can't quite get away from it (esp. with gbooks) but it is sort of funny when the evil corporation Microsoft turns out to be actually less evil, at least along one dimension, than the corporation that is running around in the "I am not evil" t-shirt. The kids, so ironic these days.

Posted by: Warui desu

QUOTE(radek @ Mon 18th April 2011, 12:58am) *

QUOTE
Bing.com apparently has the good taste to not index this page at all.


I've actually switched to using Bing as opposed to google in part for this reason. It's sort of like quitting smoking, you can't quite get away from it (esp. with gbooks) but it is sort of funny when the evil corporation Microsoft turns out to be actually less evil, at least along one dimension, than the corporation that is running around in the "I am not evil" t-shirt. The kids, so ironic these days.

The top search result for Daniel Brandt on Bing is www.danielbrandt.com. An out-of-date, barely maintained site about some (german I think) DJ or other...
The top search result on google is www.wikipedia-watch.org. That site isn't even on the first page in Bing. Or the second. Though the 2nd page has two uncyclopedia entries for Daniel Brandt.

Bing not being evil would be nice. If they only had a search algorithm that was even somewhat competent, it might even be useful.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(radek @ Sun 17th April 2011, 3:58pm) *

I've actually switched to using Bing as opposed to google in part for this reason. It's sort of like quitting smoking, you can't quite get away from it (esp. with gbooks) but it is sort of funny when the evil corporation Microsoft turns out to be actually less evil, at least along one dimension, than the corporation that is running around in the "I am not evil" t-shirt. The kids, so ironic these days.

The expected fact that people turn out to be the very thing they strenuously and unexpectedly deny, is so hackneyed that it almost doesn't qualify as irony. "The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons," says Emerson.

Posted by: melloden

Michael, you're an ED admin--do they tell you about these things (setting up OI, shutting down ED) beforehand?

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

QUOTE(melloden @ Mon 18th April 2011, 4:00am) *

Michael, you're an ED admin--do they tell you about these things (setting up OI, shutting down ED) beforehand?


Yes. http://ohinternet.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&target=Michaeldsuarez. The sysops and I first learned about the plan on January 24, but I wasn't invited to join the ohinternet.com wiki until February 8. It wasn't an easy decision to make. I made a few articles, but I didn't have the same enthusiasm for the new wiki as I did with the old one. I felt more at home at ED. I didn't see the point of begging Sherrod to keep a wiki that was clearly draining her spirits, so I never tried and spent most of my time making the users at ED comfortable. My only regret is not being permitted to tell the other users, but I didn't want to break the trust Sherrod and the other sysops placed in me.

Posted by: melloden

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 18th April 2011, 4:47am) *

QUOTE(melloden @ Mon 18th April 2011, 4:00am) *

Michael, you're an ED admin--do they tell you about these things (setting up OI, shutting down ED) beforehand?


Yes. http://ohinternet.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&target=Michaeldsuarez. The sysops and I first learned about the plan on January 24, but I wasn't invited to join the ohinternet.com wiki until February 8. It wasn't an easy decision to make. I made a few articles, but I didn't have the same enthusiasm for the new wiki as I did with the old one. I felt more at home at ED. I didn't see the point of begging Sherrod to keep a wiki that was clearly draining her spirits, so I never tried and spent most of my time making the users at ED comfortable. My only regret is not being permitted to tell the other users, but I didn't want to break the trust Sherrod and the other sysops placed in me.


Wait, so ED is officially permanently gone?

Damn, shoulda saved that nude pic of McBride when I had the chance (wait, I think Alison deleted it, anyway ...)

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(melloden @ Tue 19th April 2011, 12:52am) *

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 18th April 2011, 4:47am) *

QUOTE(melloden @ Mon 18th April 2011, 4:00am) *

Michael, you're an ED admin--do they tell you about these things (setting up OI, shutting down ED) beforehand?


Yes. http://ohinternet.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&target=Michaeldsuarez. The sysops and I first learned about the plan on January 24, but I wasn't invited to join the ohinternet.com wiki until February 8. It wasn't an easy decision to make. I made a few articles, but I didn't have the same enthusiasm for the new wiki as I did with the old one. I felt more at home at ED. I didn't see the point of begging Sherrod to keep a wiki that was clearly draining her spirits, so I never tried and spent most of my time making the users at ED comfortable. My only regret is not being permitted to tell the other users, but I didn't want to break the trust Sherrod and the other sysops placed in me.


Wait, so ED is officially permanently gone?

Damn, shoulda saved that nude pic of McBride when I had the chance (wait, I think Alison deleted it, anyway ...)


Fear not, the lulz has been preserved; http://encyclopediadramatica.ch


Posted by: Silver seren

And adding that link is now blacklisted on Wikipedia because ED trolls have been spamming it on the ED page.

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

http://josephevers.blogspot.com/2011/04/rebirth-of-encyclopedia-dramatica.html

Daniel Brandt's friend is now aware of the fork.

Posted by: Silver seren

The /b/tards can't seem to comprehend what the word copyright means. ED had a far stronger copyright policy than the weak CC by SA thing that Wikipedia has and this .ch fork would have to, at the very least, give attribution to ED for their copied information.

But they haven't and can't seem to understand why they have to.

I'm so hoping that Sherrod will get their service provider to shut them down.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(Silver seren @ Wed 20th April 2011, 5:57pm) *

The /b/tards can't seem to comprehend what the word copyright means. ED had a far stronger copyright policy than the weak CC by SA thing that Wikipedia has and this .ch fork would have to, at the very least, give attribution to ED for their copied information.

But they haven't and can't seem to understand why they have to.

I'm so hoping that Sherrod will get their service provider to shut them down.


The .ch version looks like a lot more fun, though. I did contribute here and there to the old ED, but I may sign up for the other one now. I mean, c'mon... Juggalo, the oh internet intro;

QUOTE
A 'juggalo' is an individual with an unhealthy obsession with the musical workings of rap group Insane Clown Posse. Juggalos are known for wearing clan make-up in public, bumming around trailer parks, showing devotion to the 'family', going to juggalo gatherings, and having children out of wedlock. Juggalos may be found online on Youtube, Myspace, and occasionally in Furry communities.


vs. ED Classic;

QUOTE
A Juggalo is a member of the Insane Clown Posse's cult of personality(Its a well known fact that all Juggalos are Lolcows). They are easy to spot, as they proudly wear their clown makeup in public, dress in dark clothing and behave without any class or dignity. They are not to be confused with goths, as goths have better taste in music. Typically hailing from trailer parks, these individuals are often fat, ugly, toothless, use an amount of profanity in conversation that even EDiots would find excessive, have no taste, smoke meth, so helplessly retarded if they killed themselves their Parents would be proud, and opt out of their educations in the 8th grade. Strangely enough, despite claiming to enjoy ICP for their musical merits (Insinuating they enjoy rap in general), you will never hear them listening to any music groups outside of the Psychopathic Records label. They are utterly oblivious and often hostile to the reality that the band and it's "music" is a parody, much like the more popular and successful joke of a white rapper, Eminem.

tl;dr: Take the worst of rap, the worst of rock, white trash, wiggerhood, MTV, mix generously with steaming shit, then throw clown face paint on top of the whole mess, and you get a Juggalo.


I'll choose lulz over milquetoast, thanks.

Posted by: Silver seren

I don't have a problem with the lulz themselves, I approve of lulz where appropriate. However, they shouldn't have broken copyright. Is .ch so dependent on the original ED that it can't come up with new content on its own? Are the /b/tards that unoriginal?

Posted by: RMHED

QUOTE(Silver seren @ Wed 20th April 2011, 11:42pm) *

I don't have a problem with the lulz themselves, I approve of lulz where appropriate. However, they shouldn't have broken copyright. Is .ch so dependent on the original ED that it can't come up with new content on its own? Are the /b/tards that unoriginal?

I despise lulz, it's a repulsive word spawned and used by internet dwelling retards.

Copyright for ED shite, yeah that's what really matters aint it.

Posted by: Daniel Brandt

After reading http://www.highseverity.com/2011/01/interview-with-anonymous.html, who registered the encyclopediadramatica.ch domain name, I have a depressing feeling in the pit of my stomach that they will just laugh at DMCA notices. Sven is a high-level Anonymous dude.

This is the second service provider ed.ch has had in less than a week. It's quite possible that they're ready and able to shift their entire site to a new provider in a few hours. That would force Sherrod to play whack-a-mole with DMCA notices, which leaves her essentially powerless.

This is unfortunate. The Aboriginal article is back, the Nigger article is back, and the new article on Sherrod is so bad that it made me feel sad for her — something I would have said was impossible just one week ago.

The only good news is that it should take a long time for ed.ch to get their rankings up, especially if they keep switching service providers. And maybe — this is a long shot — Google will rank ed.ch down in the mud where it belongs.

Posted by: Silver seren

Wow, Anonymous sure has fallen from the days when it actually meant something. It had a purpose, a goal, and actually worked to better the world. Now it has disintegrated into useless people like Sven.

Clearly then, if DMCA notices are useless, what needs to be done is a lawsuit. I'm sure the US government would love to get Mr. Slootweg in trouble.

Posted by: Daniel Brandt

According to the https://www.nic.ch/reg/cm/wcm-page/index.html?id=b5756056-3069-11dc-ac19-0016355aca76&lid=en#a332, it might be possible to make a case for revocation of the encyclopediadramatica.ch domain name. For example, look at number 7 below. I suspect the Australian government would, if pressed, send the registry a letter requesting revocation of the domain name due to the Aboriginal article, which the Australian Civil Rights Commission claims is a criminal violation under Australian law. Other countries might also have objections to various articles if they have "hate speech" laws.

QUOTE

3.3.2

Deletion by revocation

SWITCH revokes the registration of a domain name if SWITCH is presented with a decision of a court or of a court of arbitration enforceable in Switzerland, or a decision by a Swiss criminal prosecution, administrative or regulatory authority enforceable in Switzerland, an expert decision of the dispute resolution service for ".ch" and ".li" domain names, or if a settlement concluded in or out of court by both parties is presented, according to which SWITCH is directly instructed to revoke the domain name, without SWITCH being a party to the corresponding proceedings, or which contains the required holder's consent to revocation or by which that consent is replaced. The third party must submit a certificate of the enforceability of the decision.

SWITCH can revoke the registration of domain names if:

1. the holder breaches the applicable law;

2. the holder breaches these GTC or the contractual relationship with SWITCH and does not eliminate the breach within a period set by SWITCH;

3. the fees are not paid in accordance with the contract;

4. the holder breaches the duty to maintain data;

5. there is an evident risk that SWITCH could make itself legally liable due to the registration and/or use of the domain name. In that case the revocation takes place in consultation with OFCOM or the Office of Communications respectively;

6. the holder has died or has been deleted from the register of commerce as a result of bankruptcy or liquidation;

7. other important reasons such as international recommendations, standards or harmonisation require it. In that case the revocation takes place in consultation with OFCOM or the Office of Communications respectively.

With revocation, the domain name is deleted from the Whois service, the database and the zonefile. With the deletion, the domain name becomes available for re-registration after a transition period as defined in para. 3.3.3.

If the revocation took place on the basis of para. 1 above, the domain name is made available for re-registration at the time designated in the decision or in the settlement between the parties or, if such a time is not specified, as quickly as possible.

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/User:Meepsheep/The_Bieber_Facebook_Project

The original ED wouldn't post the dox of children.

Tarc, you need to be careful with who you associate yourself with.

Posted by: Silver seren

Whoa...okay, yeah, that page is a definite issue. That's, like, a call the police issue right there.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Wed 20th April 2011, 9:32pm) *

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/User:Meepsheep/The_Bieber_Facebook_Project

The original ED wouldn't post the dox of children.


I think Jessi Slaughter would disagree, along with most of the Deviant Art people that had ED articles about them.

QUOTE
Tarc, you need to be careful with who you associate yourself with.


Oh, please, like this place is any better? WR regulars have spent countless hours compiling personal info, editing habits, juicy info and whatnot into various threads over the years....there is an entire subforum on "Notable Editors", even. Go look at how much effort has been expended to out Slim and Jayjg, for starters.

ED does it with liberal does of "LOL F4G" speak, while WR pats itself on the back for every bon mot you yahoos toss around. I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face?

Two sides of the same coin.

Posted by: WikiWatch

QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 20th April 2011, 11:57pm) *

I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face?

Two sides of the same coin.


I don't think even Awbrey reads them with a straight face laugh.gif

μὴ μοῦ τοὺς κύκλους τάραττε.

Posted by: gomi

[Modnote: Recent posts, however well-intentioned, make this something we don't want searched by Google, so putting it here, even if it doesn't entirely fit, seems the least of several evils.]

Posted by: Silver seren

True, we don't want the /b/tards to hear us bad-mouthing them or they might go all fake-Anonymous on us.

Posted by: Text

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez)
The original ED wouldn't post the dox of children.


That guy posing as Bieber is blackmailing kids. That's cyberbullying of a serious nature and with all the data the naive kids post (including place of residence and phone numbers), the situation will get out of hand, and end up really badly for some people. Let ed.ch and the rest of the anon crew know about this: http://news.hostexploit.com/cybercrime-news/4746-cyberbullying-is-a-crime-us-man-jailed.html

Posted by: lilburne

Jail em all
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/21/social_networks_must_restrict_kids_profiles_automatically/

Posted by: Theanima

QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 21st April 2011, 3:57am) *


Oh, please, like this place is any better? WR regulars have spent countless hours compiling personal info, editing habits, juicy info and whatnot into various threads over the years....there is an entire subforum on "Notable Editors", even. Go look at how much effort has been expended to out Slim and Jayjg, for starters.

ED does it with liberal does of "LOL F4G" speak, while WR pats itself on the back for every bon mot you yahoos toss around. I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face?

Two sides of the same coin.


With the occasional exception though, the people who this site "outs" generally deserve it. These are innocent kids that some creepy weirdo is messing with. I just read the page and I'm disgusted such "people" exist in the world.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 21st April 2011, 3:57am) *


Oh, please, like this place is any better? WR regulars have spent countless hours compiling personal info, editing habits, juicy info and whatnot into various threads over the years....there is an entire subforum on "Notable Editors", even. Go look at how much effort has been expended to out Slim and Jayjg, for starters.

ED does it with liberal does of "LOL F4G" speak, while WR pats itself on the back for every bon mot you yahoos toss around. I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face?

Two sides of the same coin.

Very astute of you. For example, I know that Awbrey often poses as Justin Beiber to 13 year-old girls on Facebook, then threatens to post their private info on the net when he has it, unless they write in their Facebook accounts "I like ****** **** up my ***."

Yes, he does it all in ancient Greek, for sure, but that doesn't change the essential nature of it. It's just slightly more challenging for the reader to follow (not to mention the girls). It makes WR a more highbrow site, but actually we're still just as evil. You know we are.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 21st April 2011, 4:22pm) *
Very astute of you. For example, I know that Awbrey often poses as Justin Beiber to 13 year-old girls on Facebook, then threatens to post their private info on the net when he has it, unless they write in their Facebook accounts "I like ****** **** up my ***."


My real-life nickname is also that is also that of a famous musician, and I used to use this name as my handle on various Unix machines back in the early/mid 90's. Somehow my accounts were visible to the outside world and I was flooded...and I mean flooded...with e-mails from 15 year-old girls professing their undying love, providing their home addresses and phone numbers, thinking they they were privileged enough to have found the secret e-mail address of Mr. Celebrity. Being an immature 19 yr old at the time, I called a few of them to fuck around. Some I pretended to be Mr. Celebrity and messed with them a bit, but that got tiring quickly so I then berated them for being gullible. If their parents answered, I told them to keep a better eye on their retarded kids.

So, would my grizzled, 40-ish self pull this fake Bieber shtick? No. But I find I have little sympathy for the gullibility/stupidity of teens who think a famous person is actually taking a personal interest in them. I've been there, and teaching gullible people a lesson isn't always a bad thing, as harsh as the tactics may be.


Apart from the Bieber Fever junk though, overall ED was simply a very amusing website that was quite handy to link to from time to time. Whether it is mbz's fanboys http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/White_Knighting or the general http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Bawww of the "omg don't delete my article, it has a million google hits!" brigade, something has been lost. "Oh Internet" is the kind of site my grandmother would find funny. I mean, http://ohinternet.com/Broccoli_dog? Seriously?

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(Silver seren @ Wed 20th April 2011, 6:00pm) *

Wow, Anonymous sure has fallen from the days when it actually meant something. It had a purpose, a goal, and actually worked to better the world. Now it has disintegrated into useless people like Sven.

And let's not forget SchuminWeb, that http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=33187 of Wikipedia administrators and Anonymous members. yecch.gif

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 21st April 2011, 11:24pm) *
My real-life nickname is also that is also that of a famous musician


Hopefully, not this famous musician:


Posted by: carbuncle

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 22nd April 2011, 8:32am) *

QUOTE(Silver seren @ Wed 20th April 2011, 6:00pm) *

Wow, Anonymous sure has fallen from the days when it actually meant something. It had a purpose, a goal, and actually worked to better the world. Now it has disintegrated into useless people like Sven.

And let's not forget SchuminWeb, that http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=33187 of Wikipedia administrators and Anonymous members. yecch.gif

Wait...what? Anonymous? Bettering the world? Anonymous has always been nothing more or less than a bunch of trolls whose collective goal is to make themselves feel superior by making someone else feel bad, usually taken to extremes that border on sociopathic. It is the internet's version of mob mentality. Anonymous tends to pick on the softest, easiest targets, which is why they seem to go after teenage girls, people with mental or physical disabilities, freaks, etc.

Before someone brings up the great "Anonymous versus the Church of Scientology" crusade as a righteous cause, it ain't. It gives Anonymous a nemesis - a big scary shadowy entity that has a history of persecuting its enemies. And the perfect nemesis because virtually no one likes the CoS, so who is going to get upset outside of Scientologists and a few whiny people who actually believe in freedom of religion? Even better, kids can get dressed up in a mask and act like a troll in public and people might think they are some kind of hero, ignoring the fact that the CoS may have gone after reporters and ex-members but they probably aren't much interested in a bunch of kids handing out pamphlets and blocking their doors.

Anonymous have lionized a few former members of the CoS who are still adherents to the very doctrines that Anonymous mock, despite having split from "the Church". Xenu, anyone? And if there finally stop being any lulz to be had from the CoS, Anonymous will move on to something else that relies on mocking, belittling, bullying, and generally acting out their own feelings of worthlessness. Yes, it used to mean something, indeed.

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=67253243887&topic=54246

Guessing this is Meepsheep? lol at "Why the fuck does no one care?" This guy is a serious attention-seeker.

Posted by: Theanima

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Fri 22nd April 2011, 1:14pm) *

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=67253243887&topic=54246

Guessing this is Meepsheep? lol at "Why the fuck does no one care?" This guy is a serious attention-seeker.


As well as a serious psychopath.

Posted by: Silver seren

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 22nd April 2011, 8:32am) *

QUOTE(Silver seren @ Wed 20th April 2011, 6:00pm) *

Wow, Anonymous sure has fallen from the days when it actually meant something. It had a purpose, a goal, and actually worked to better the world. Now it has disintegrated into useless people like Sven.

And let's not forget SchuminWeb, that http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=33187 of Wikipedia administrators and Anonymous members. yecch.gif


On that note, you reminded me about our missing writer, so I went ahead and fixed that.

Chet Faliszek (T-H-L-K-D)

Still working on it, obviously.

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(Silver seren @ Fri 22nd April 2011, 1:39pm) *

On that note, you reminded me about our missing writer, so I went ahead and fixed that.
Chet Faliszek (T-H-L-K-D)
Still working on it, obviously.

That's nice. Why don't you tell Schumin about it, and see how long it lasts before he starts messing with it?

Posted by: Silver seren

I'd like to see him try. wink.gif

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/User_talk:Wnt

The longer the fight on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclopedia_Dramatica&action=history goes on; the more interesting and dramatic it becomes. They're desperate for the frame (and legitimacy, perhaps?) a mention on a Wikipedia article may give them.

Posted by: Silver seren

Thank you, Michael, for that link.


Edit: Post #69. Amusing.

Posted by: Selina

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Tue 26th April 2011, 1:49pm) *

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/User_talk:Wnt

The longer the fight on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclopedia_Dramatica&action=history goes on; the more interesting and dramatic it becomes. They're desperate for the frame (and legitimacy, perhaps?) a mention on a Wikipedia article may give them.


This 'oh internet' site of yours seems to be spinning so hard it's almost taking off into space, I had a look at the article on ED there, it looks like you (well, ok, I guess that is probably 99% Sherrod that is writing that stuff) are trying to put the blame all on a minority of 'trolls', trying to make out that there was some kind of golden age or something when it was funny and cute and rainbows and butterflies or something instead of FROM THE START formed from a group dedicated to harassment (http://google.com/search?q=%22lj+drama%22+created+OR+%22new+site%22+OR+%22new+wiki%22+dramatica). Seriously, who does anyone think they are fooling? tongue.gif

I don't know how anyone is expected to take the claims of former Ohinternet former Encyclopedia Dramatica admins seriously as they were all active users on the site - one and the same, just greedier. Pretty insidious the way you seem to try shift responsibility and attempt to rewrite history... Hate it when people smoothly lie without compunction like that, it's the same kind of sociopathic, manipulative, slimy-as-hell ethos that high-ranking Wikipedia users tend to have.

Posted by: Daniel Brandt

Which users from the old ED have crossed over and are now users on ED.CH? I'll start off the list. http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/User:Zaiger was once an admin on the old ED and is now a http://twitter.com/#!/search/zaiger%20ch. He plans to resurrect my old ED bio, which was deleted seven months ago. Zaiger has already been doxed.

As a replacement for the hivemind-like wall of admins from the old ED that was featured on http://josephevers.blogspot.com/, perhaps we need a wall of ED-to-ED.CH migrants. Feel free to add to the list, either in this thread or send an email to jevers.ceo AT gmail.com. Usernames only in this thread, please. If you have dox info, send it via email.

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

QUOTE(Selina @ Thu 28th April 2011, 5:51pm) *
This 'oh internet' site of yours seems to be spinning so hard it's almost taking off into space, I had a look at the article on ED there, it looks like you (well, ok, I guess that is probably 99% Sherrod that is writing that stuff) are trying to put the blame all on a minority of 'trolls', trying to make out that there was some kind of golden age or something when it was funny and cute and rainbows and butterflies or something instead of FROM THE START formed from a group dedicated to harassment (http://google.com/search?q=%22lj+drama%22+created+OR+%22new+site%22+OR+%22new+wiki%22+dramatica). Seriously, who does anyone think they are fooling? tongue.gif

I don't know how anyone is expected to take the claims of former Ohinternet former Encyclopedia Dramatica admins seriously as they were all active users on the site - one and the same, just greedier. Pretty insidious the way you seem to try shift responsibility and attempt to rewrite history... Hate it when people smoothly lie without compunction like that, it's the same kind of sociopathic, manipulative, slimy-as-hell ethos that high-ranking Wikipedia users tend to have.


http://ohinternet.com/index.php?title=Encyclopedia_Dramatica&diff=23030&oldid=22682

Hipcrime wrote that, and I don't endorse that view. I joined ED in October 2009, and I was a part of ED culture of that time. I had to write ohinternet's articles on http://ohinternet.com/index.php?title=Troll&oldid=1293 and http://ohinternet.com/index.php?title=Anonymity&oldid=1253 since the others grew so distant from culture that created ED in the first place. As http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=33506&view=findpost&p=272998, I was never enthusiastic for ohinternet. I preferred ED and decided not to accept sysop rights on ohinternet. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rainbow_Dash&diff=424290308&oldid=424079231 that I dislike Web 2.0 and the incorporating of social networking features. I never shared Sherrod's vision, but what can I do when the site owner gives in to the pain and pressure?

I keep telling Sherrod and the others not to alienate and antagonize our former fanbase, but they don't accept my views as valid. I also told her to make a blog post about the change instead of doing interviews. The interviews don't answer the questions the fanbase cares more about (eg. Why aren't there archives available?). "Shock for shock’s sake is old at this point" is far from a satisfactory answer. She needs to speak to the userbase, not to Gawker. You don't need a business degree in order to understand basic PR.

They've been sysops for so long that they actually started believe that they're a step above the fanbase. The people they were demeaning were the same people who built ED. I even started to believe what they believed when Meepsheep began advertising his Justin Bieber Facebook Project on the fork.

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Thu 28th April 2011, 8:24pm) *
Which users from the old ED have crossed over and are now users on ED.CH? I'll start off the list. http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/User:Zaiger was once an admin on the old ED and is now a http://twitter.com/#!/search/zaiger%20ch. He plans to resurrect my old ED bio, which was deleted seven months ago. Zaiger has already been doxed.


I told Sherrod that banning him was a mistake. Zaiger is very passionate.

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Thu 28th April 2011, 8:24pm) *
As a replacement for the hivemind-like wall of admins from the old ED that was featured on http://josephevers.blogspot.com/, perhaps we need a wall of ED-to-ED.CH migrants. Feel free to add to the list, either in this thread or send an email to jevers.ceo AT gmail.com. Usernames only in this thread, please. If you have dox info, send it via email.


There's me (you have my dox already), but all I did was argue with a person who has a grudge against me and give some advice on CSS and HTML. I'm not on ed.ch in order to be a member.

Posted by: zaiger

Before you all get your panties in a bunch how about some facts:

Meepsheep is a teenage girl as well. A teenage girl who has been told to not do that shit anymore or she will lose her Admins. ED is not a trolling organization, but if a member takes it upon themselves to troll, what can we do other than that? Nothing. The page was deleted as soon as we realized what she was doing. One teenage girl was trolling other teenage girls, sorry but that is just how the world works, we are not babysitters. We took the proper steps to nip the behavior in the bud and gave her a warning.

And Daniel, you are such hypocrite. I didn't even know who you were until you posted my face and a link to a map pointing to a house my parent's sold 20 years ago on your blog, even when I had given up my admins on ED.com 2 years prior. What's the matter, you can dish it out but not take it?


QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Thu 28th April 2011, 3:24pm) *
He plans to resurrect my old ED bio, which was deleted seven months ago. Zaiger has already been doxed.



2 sides of the same coin is right.

Posted by: Daniel Brandt

Meepsheep and Zaiger are two out of a total of only 12 admins on the new ED, encyclopediadramatica.ch. They are fair game — ED.ch was started by "Ryan," over Sherrod's DMCA objections, by pulling the old ED.com content from Google's cache and from archive.org. Believe it or not, ED.ch is more vulgar than the old ED.com.

I don't know about Meepsheep, but Mr. Zaiger, age 31, should know better than to team up with Ryan, age 21, who uses his botnet to illegally flood his enemies with DDoS attacks and then brags about it openly. Ryan DDoSed Sony last month, he DDoSed Dreamhost on April 30, and three days ago sent thousands of emails to the Gmail address used by josephevers.blogspot.com. Ryan used to be a prominent "leader" of Anonymous, but recently declared war on the other "leaders" of Anonymous.

Wikipedia Review has no business allowing someone like Zaiger to post here. I'd recommend blocking him, but then Ryan might DDoS this board. At that point I fear that WR's hosting provider would invite WR to find other hosting. WR may prefer to just get used to the idea that they are being held hostage by Zaiger.

By the way, Scroogle.org was DDoSed at the same time that Ryan was sending thousands of emails to the owner of josephevers.blogspot.com (I am not the owner of that blog, but I support it). At Scroogle I blocked 5,869 unique IPs until the DDoSing stopped hours later. Each IP was attempting to continuously flood Scroogle with search requests. Ryan's botnet is suspect because it happened simultaneously with the mailbombing of the blog. Unfortunately, not enough is known about Ryan's botnet to draw a firm conclusion. Here is a breakdown of the countries of origin of the IP addresses that attacked Scroogle:

Percentage of 5,869 unique IPs by country of origin
51 percent, China
20 percent, United States
5 percent, Hong Kong
5 percent, Indonesia
4 percent, Taiwan
1 percent, Brazil
1 percent, Russian Federation
1 percent, Ukraine
12 percent, all other countries combined


Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(zaiger @ Sat 21st May 2011, 7:42am) *
ED is not a trolling organization

laugh.gif

QUOTE
Wikipedia Review has no business allowing someone like Zaiger to post here. I'd recommend blocking him, but then Ryan might DDoS this board. At that point I fear that WR's hosting provider would invite WR to find other hosting. WR may prefer to just get used to the idea that they are being held hostage by Zaiger.

Or just ignore them altogether. They don't seem to be happy unless they are getting attention.

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

QUOTE(zaiger @ Sat 21st May 2011, 10:42am) *
One teenage girl was trolling other teenage girls, sorry but that is just how the world works, we are not babysitters. We took the proper steps to nip the behavior in the bud and gave her a warning.


No one is asking you to be babysitters; we're asking you to be reasonable publishers. You can't tell Meepsheep what to do on Facebook, but you're responsible for whether the information Meepsheep gathered is published or not. The information your website publishes is made accessible to a wide variety of people, including pedophiles and those who may wish to take advantage of the children who were doxed. Deleting that page was the right decision, and I thank you for it.