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> Stefan de Rothschild, 17 year old philanthropist
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post Sat 30th January 2010, 9:58pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sat 30th January 2010, 6:05am) *

This is too damn bizarre.

Why in hell would anyone, sane or insane, do all this?
(Don't answer that. Nevermind. It's Wikipedia.)



And he's been doing it since 2005..

The 2008 version of The Stefan Roberts biography lasted for 73 days before deletion, and was created shortly before he started blogging on the Huffington Post. Likewise, the Stefan de Rothschild article was created shortly before he switched to blogging under that name. He's using WP and his cheap websites to give the appearance of credibility to use on HuffPo. It's one of, if not the most visited and linked to blogs, so he's probably doing it because he wants to be read.

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QUOTE(tarantino @ Fri 29th January 2010, 11:58am) *

This elaborate hoax was set up with several articles created by User:Womblethereof.

It was mentioned at the Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard yesterday and all the articles have been deleted.

His 238 twitter followers and the folks at the Huffington Post (where he wrote an editorial that received 130 comments) have yet to catch on though.

Perhapes we can get Cyclopia to archive it all on-line somewhere on Encyc, so the BLP information on Mr. S. Rothschild is not lost to history. rolleyes.gif You know how important that is. wink.gif
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post Sat 30th January 2010, 10:54pm
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 30th January 2010, 11:05pm) *

QUOTE(tarantino @ Fri 29th January 2010, 11:58am) *

This elaborate hoax was set up with several articles created by User:Womblethereof.

It was mentioned at the Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard yesterday and all the articles have been deleted.

His 238 twitter followers and the folks at the Huffington Post (where he wrote an editorial that received 130 comments) have yet to catch on though.

Perhapes we can get Cyclopia to archive it all on-line somewhere on Encyc, so the BLP information on Mr. S. Rothschild is not lost to history. rolleyes.gif You know how important that is. wink.gif


He's got a facebook account as well : http://www.facebook.com/stefanderothschild

(In French, we call that a "tête à claques", which means roughly "a face meant to be slapped"....)
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 30th January 2010, 10:54pm) *

He's got a facebook account as well : http://www.facebook.com/stefanderothschild

(In French, we call that a "tête à claques", which means roughly "a face meant to be slapped"....)

This appears not to be visible to the general public, or maybe it is deleted already.
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post Sat 30th January 2010, 11:08pm
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QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Sat 30th January 2010, 11:59pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 30th January 2010, 10:54pm) *

He's got a facebook account as well : http://www.facebook.com/stefanderothschild

(In French, we call that a "tête à claques", which means roughly "a face meant to be slapped"....)

This appears not to be visible to the general public, or maybe it is deleted already.


I see a picture and a list of friends...but I'm logged onto facebook. There's also a page for the Rothschild foundation for the Arts : http://www.facebook.com/stefanderothschild...91599356?v=wall
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Sat 30th January 2010, 4:58pm) *

For reference, the page Stefan Roberts was originally created on September 29, 2005 by Pikelet04 (T-C-L-K-R-D) . It included an image that was deleted along with the article: File:Stefan Roberts.jpg.

It appears the article was re-created by the same user on January 31, 2006. Pikelet04 was never blocked.
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QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 31st January 2010, 12:13am) *

QUOTE(tarantino @ Sat 30th January 2010, 4:58pm) *

For reference, the page Stefan Roberts was originally created on September 29, 2005 by Pikelet04 (T-C-L-K-R-D) . It included an image that was deleted along with the article: File:Stefan Roberts.jpg.

It appears the article was re-created by the same user on January 31, 2006. Pikelet04 was never blocked.


Fuzzybuddy (T-C-L-K-R-D) wasn't blocker either. That's the account that created the 2008 article, along with Roberts Investments Group and Andrew Roberts (businessman).
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Sat 30th January 2010, 6:02pm) *

QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 31st January 2010, 12:13am) *

QUOTE(tarantino @ Sat 30th January 2010, 4:58pm) *

For reference, the page Stefan Roberts was originally created on September 29, 2005 by Pikelet04 (T-C-L-K-R-D) . It included an image that was deleted along with the article: File:Stefan Roberts.jpg.

It appears the article was re-created by the same user on January 31, 2006. Pikelet04 was never blocked.


Fuzzybuddy (T-C-L-K-R-D) wasn't blocker either. That's the account that created the 2008 article, along with Roberts Investments Group and Andrew Roberts (businessman).


The snide deletion discussion is very funny, as it all looks a lot like the Lee Dennison one. The whole Roberts group with their imaginary titles and businesses looks like a giant walled-garden. Why, it must be the dread pirate Roberts! Nobody has actually SEEN him, but he has an amazing rep!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Art...s_(businessman)

Note our buddy Fuzzybuddy (T-C-L-K-R-D) is right in the middle there, "agreeing" that the articles he'd created weren't based on reliable sources, so should be deleted. Yessiree. rolleyes.gif That agreement made him look more innocent and saved him from being deleted as a disruptive false-BLP maker himself. But he's pretty clearly the screen-name of a personna-creator, and if it were up to me, I'd banhammer him just for stupidity if nothing else.
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QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sat 30th January 2010, 5:13pm) *

QUOTE(tarantino @ Sat 30th January 2010, 4:58pm) *

For reference, the page Stefan Roberts was originally created on September 29, 2005 by Pikelet04 (T-C-L-K-R-D) . It included an image that was deleted along with the article: File:Stefan Roberts.jpg.

It appears the article was re-created by the same user on January 31, 2006. Pikelet04 was never blocked.

Eh? Then where did he GO? blink.gif
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 31st January 2010, 6:03am) *

QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sat 30th January 2010, 5:13pm) *

QUOTE(tarantino @ Sat 30th January 2010, 4:58pm) *

For reference, the page Stefan Roberts was originally created on September 29, 2005 by Pikelet04 (T-C-L-K-R-D) . It included an image that was deleted along with the article: File:Stefan Roberts.jpg.

It appears the article was re-created by the same user on January 31, 2006. Pikelet04 was never blocked.

Eh? Then where did he GO? blink.gif


To a "champagned-fuel New Year's party", from the sounds of it :

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So I started the new decade all excited about, well, everything. From the champagne-fueled party on New Year's Eve to that ecstatic countdown up to midnight (this year, with BBC Radio 1 being patched in through the house's sound system so that we could hear Big Ben chime 12), and that oh-so-special kiss to start off 2010!


Actually, even if this isn't even remotely believable, it's really a shame that this guy is a fake...since his position about arts funding makes perfect sense...However, I wonder just how much of the money he was obviously fishing for with these websites would have actually gone to working artists?

Has anybody tipped off the Huffington post about this guy?
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Here for example is a typical French maid on Commons; note how she wears a very short dress, seamed stockings and stilettos to do manual labour.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fre...aid_dusting.jpg

Hm, danger of having admins following our discussions. All I do is link to a nice photo on Commons and look what happens. Grab a copy while you can.


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QUOTE(Trick cyclist @ Sun 31st January 2010, 6:36pm) *

QUOTE(Trick cyclist @ Sat 30th January 2010, 12:38pm) *

Here for example is a typical French maid on Commons; note how she wears a very short dress, seamed stockings and stilettos to do manual labour.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fre...aid_dusting.jpg

Hm, danger of having admins following our discussions. All I do is link to a nice photo on Commons and look what happens. Grab a copy while you can.


The Wikipedia Review effect strikes again...

Well, it's in use in the French WP, oddly enough, although I don't see what it has to do with the article...

The Spanish WP seems to understand the concept of "French Maid" better than the French do...
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sun 31st January 2010, 12:33pm) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 31st January 2010, 6:03am) *

Eh? Then where did he GO? blink.gif


To a "champagned-fuel New Year's party", from the sounds of it :


More recently, he claims he just returned from the World Economics Forum in Davos.
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# @Davos BTW - I'm on the @HuffingtonPost List and am attending for @RothschildGF. Any chance of being put on your list too? 4:12 PM Jan 26th from web

# Am heading out to a working breakfast for Foundation Leaders #WEF 10:53 PM Jan 26th from web

# @QueenRania [the queen of Jordan] RE: Education - yes they are def. b) I know! I find @Davos has about 50 working meals a day, but I never actually eat anything! 11:01 PM Jan 28th from web

# Looking forward to our last day in @Davos. It's been a really great experience and we've got a lot done. @RothschildGF really benefited. 10:48 PM Jan 29th from web


QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sun 31st January 2010, 12:33pm) *

Has anybody tipped off the Huffington post about this guy?


I replied to his latest article but it's been waiting moderation since Friday. I also emailed scoop at huffingtonpost.com, but there's been no reply.
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sun 31st January 2010, 5:33am) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 31st January 2010, 6:03am) *

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QUOTE(tarantino @ Sat 30th January 2010, 4:58pm) *

For reference, the page Stefan Roberts was originally created on September 29, 2005 by Pikelet04 (T-C-L-K-R-D) . It included an image that was deleted along with the article: File:Stefan Roberts.jpg.

It appears the article was re-created by the same user on January 31, 2006. Pikelet04 was never blocked.

Eh? Then where did he GO? blink.gif

No, I meant how did Pikelet04 (T-C-L-K-R-D) get off WP? Are you sure you have the name right? You say he wasn't blocked, but he doesn't have a userpage. Not even one with a "banned editor" tag.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 31st January 2010, 2:24pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sun 31st January 2010, 5:33am) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 31st January 2010, 6:03am) *

QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sat 30th January 2010, 5:13pm) *

QUOTE(tarantino @ Sat 30th January 2010, 4:58pm) *

For reference, the page Stefan Roberts was originally created on September 29, 2005 by Pikelet04 (T-C-L-K-R-D) . It included an image that was deleted along with the article: File:Stefan Roberts.jpg.

It appears the article was re-created by the same user on January 31, 2006. Pikelet04 was never blocked.

Eh? Then where did he GO? blink.gif

No, I meant how did Pikelet04 (T-C-L-K-R-D) get off WP? Are you sure you have the name right? You say he wasn't blocked, but he doesn't have a userpage. Not even one with a "banned editor" tag.

Yes, I have the name correct. The account made its edits in 2005 and 2006 and never created a user or user talk page. All of the edits were subsequently deleted (Special:DeletedContributions/Pikelet04) and nobody ever bothered creating a user or user talk page or blocking the account. Sounds like a typical "single-purpose throwaway account" to me.
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I was talking to some French friends tonight about this, and the general consensus (there's that word again...) is that there is no way in Hell that the Rothschilds' would ever name any of their kids either Stefan or Andrew. He might as well have chosen Kevin or Dylan. It's really a huge tipoff that this is a hoax, at least to French people...


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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sun 31st January 2010, 2:49pm) *

I was talking to some French friends tonight about this, and the general consensus (there's that word again...) is that there is no way in Hell that the Rothschilds' would ever name any of their kids either Stefan or Andrew. He might as well have chosen Kevin or Dylan. It's really a huge tipoff that this is a hoax, at least to French people...

How about this guy, born in 1949? Of course, he appears Swedish.

http://www.ngo-fundraising.com/75585/eng_background
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How about this guy, born in 1949? Of course, he appears Swedish.

Sweden is another country. They do things differently there.

Anyway is there any reason to assume hes related to the French Rothschilds? I know they have relations in England but why would they want to have Swedish ones?

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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 1st February 2010, 2:43am) *

How about this guy, born in 1949? Of course, he appears Swedish.

Sweden is another country. They do things differently there.

Anyway is there any reason to assume hes related to the French Rothschilds? I know they have relations in England but why would they want to have Swedish ones?


This guy is Stefan Rothschild. The other guy is Stefan de Rothschild.

The de changes everything. It's not even the same name, really...


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Sweden is another country. They do things differently there.


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