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_ General Discussion _ Pending Changes will be implemented by December 2012

Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Request_for_Comment_2012:

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[...] Pending Changes will become live on 1 December, 2012. To allow developers enough preparation time, we recommend that community discussion about changes to the draft Pending Changes policy be concluded no later than 1 November, 2012. If the community has not, at that time, reached a consensus about how to change the draft policy, Pending Changes will be implemented according to the terms of the Draft Policy until the community can find a consensus.


Wikipedia will be using Pending Changes by December 2012.

Below is a hyperlink to the "default" Pending Changes policy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Provisional_policy

What's surprising here is that the Provisional policy (Position #2) only had 61% of the !voters supporting it. That percentage is lower than the usual threshold for consensus.

Posted by: Fusion

"Consensus" means agreeing with the powerful ones.

Posted by: Web Fred

QUOTE(Fusion @ Mon 25th June 2012, 9:21pm) *

"Consensus" means agreeing with the powerful ones.


It also means that Suarez can't spell consensus.

Posted by: FightingMac

QUOTE(Fusion @ Mon 25th June 2012, 11:21pm) *

"Consensus" means agreeing with the powerful ones.


Yes, my worry is that this new policy will make it easier for policemen like AGK to repress content on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Decker&diff=prev&oldid=43765643 is AGK, a http://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Anthony_cfc&diff=306837&oldid=306834, trying to stop Joe Decker from editing on the Roman Catholic paedophilia scandals (his obsessive hounding of my associate the "sock puppeteer" Rinpoche no doubt similarly motivated; Rinpoche was blocked (eventually to be banned) because of his rather agressive defence http://web.archive.org/web/20110711135639/http://www.gutclean.com/buddhistsexabusecases.html - link is to a WayBack archive of the article):

== NOTICE ==

This is a Warning from The Wikipedia RC Patrol.

Please stop adding sexually explicit content and nonsense to Wikipedia.

Further attempts to do so will result in implications against your user account.

Thank you


In this case when we try to check http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Decker&diff=next&oldid=43765643of this naked threat (Joe Decker is a respected editor and administrator), we find http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAGK&action=history&year=2006&month=3&tagfilter=.

I do fear we will be seeing a lot more of this kind of thing.

Posted by: Eppur si muove

QUOTE(FightingMac @ Tue 26th June 2012, 8:36am) *

QUOTE(Fusion @ Mon 25th June 2012, 11:21pm) *

"Consensus" means agreeing with the powerful ones.


Yes, my worry is that this new policy will make it easier for policemen like AGK to repress content on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Decker&diff=prev&oldid=43765643 is AGK, a http://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Anthony_cfc&diff=306837&oldid=306834, trying to stop Joe Decker from editing on the Roman Catholic paedophilia scandals (his obsessive hounding of my associate the "sock puppeteer" Rinpoche no doubt similarly motivated; Rinpoche was blocked (eventually to be banned) because of his rather agressive defence http://web.archive.org/web/20110711135639/http://www.gutclean.com/buddhistsexabusecases.html - link is to a WayBack archive of the article):

== NOTICE ==

This is a Warning from The Wikipedia RC Patrol.

Please stop adding sexually explicit content and nonsense to Wikipedia.

Further attempts to do so will result in implications against your user account.

Thank you


In this case when we try to check http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Joe_Decker&diff=next&oldid=43765643of this naked threat (Joe Decker is a respected editor and administrator), we find http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAGK&action=history&year=2006&month=3&tagfilter=.

I do fear we will be seeing a lot more of this kind of thing.


I do find it hard to believe that FloNight would have written a welcome message that needed removing.

Posted by: Mortimer

One thing I have never understood, maybe others do. How is English Wikipedia so different from other WMF sites that have implemented pending changes with apparently few problems? OK, no doubt English Wikipedia is the busiest site with the most changes. But by the other side of the same coin, it has far more recent change patrollers than other WMF sites.

Posted by: Achromatic

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Pending Changes will become live on 1 December, 2012.


No. It won't.

Posted by: Mortimer

QUOTE(Achromatic @ Wed 25th July 2012, 12:09am) *

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Pending Changes will become live on 1 December, 2012.


No. It won't.

Hey, you were right!