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Probably a good idea. But anyway, got anything to say about the rest? I'd be interested, cos I can't see much other solutions really to the big questions about Wikipedia and similar sites, like this even:

Anyone truly determined and manipulative will always have the upper hand, and as more and more serious organisations like political parties and their corporate masters with serious money and manpower (think oDesk (T-H-L-K-D) which is what Facebook's worldwide network of monitoring minions are ran off from, or Amazon Mechanical Turk (T-H-L-K-D), or 50 Cent Party (T-H-L-K-D)) get smart and use the same tactics, Wikipedia and every other website - including Wikipedia Review - that attempts to be impartial is doomed.

Because most people are inclined to trust, WANT to trust even when they don't really have any proof that a name isn't just a copy of someone else (or even bypassing that way by being a group being employed together, the "meatpuppets" idea) - and so naturally the people willing to lie have the upper hand over good people. Taking advantage of how most people start of wanting to believe humanity is naturally good, when there's so many bad people that trusting so much is just a weakness, especially on the internet.

Wikipedia tries "assume good faith" and going after the most obvious ones, but that means they're helpless as lambs to the slaughter to the truly manipulative ones...

Is that the kind of world we want to live in?

I am beginning to think the only way that it could be solved is to hide the idea of internet personalities entirely (there is the idea that you can clearly identify individual people on at least some kind of official registration, not even having to be public information to maintain privacy, but then there comes to the question of how useless it would be in the face of organisations employing multiple people in their propaganda campaigns), to protect people from themselves and force people to judge on the content contributed on the internet, to deny the manipulative people a platform to do so...
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-DS-   Will Beback RFC?  
melloden   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cla68/DR_draft_...  
Zoloft   I know Will reads this website (he once emailed me...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Why was it blanked?  
Cla68   Why was it blanked? It's going to take me awhil...  
Beer me   Why was it blanked? It's going to take me awhi...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Will continues his anti-LaRouche crusade here at t...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Will continues his anti-LaRouche crusade here at ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   It looks like Fred never wrote more than a few sen...  
Mathsci   And there is now a wild melee on the talk page at...  
Herschelkrustofsky   And there is now a wild melee on the talk page at ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   As has been pointed out, the single purpose accou...  
Mathsci   Was BLP policy designed to be applied to large pol...  
Zoloft   Was BLP policy designed to be applied to large po...  
Cla68   Funny, Hipocrite learns of that discussion from th...  
lilburne   Will Beback, for example, apparently keeps a runn...  
It's the blimp, Frank   [quote name='Mathsci' post='285106' date='Sun 25t...  
Herschelkrustofsky   I see that both MathSci and Hipocrite believe tha...  
lilburne   [quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='285137'...  
The Joy   [quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='285137'...  
lilburne   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='285155' da...  
Zoloft   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='285155' d...  
Herschelkrustofsky   That is difficult since my suggestion to Will mon...  
lilburne   [quote name='lilburne' post='285163' date='Mon 26...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Waalkes seems to have hit a nerve with this line o...  
Cla68   Waalkes seems to have hit a nerve with [url=http:...  
It's the blimp, Frank   But remember, this Wikipedia. The rules of reality...  
It's the blimp, Frank   MathSci thinks that Cla68 may have ownership issue...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Will Beback's fans are legion, and I wanted to ma...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Will Beback's fans are legion, and I wanted to mak...  
Milton Roe   Will Beback's fans are legion, and I wanted to ma...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Any seasoned Wikipedian can tell you that cherry-p...  
mbz1   what is going on with Will Beback? http://en.wikip...  
lilburne   what is going on with Will Beback? [url=http://en...  
gomi   You may follow some of the drama here.  
mbz1   You may follow some of the drama here. Sorry, my...  
Tarc   The shower of posthumous barnstars is...interestin...  
SB_Johnny   The shower of posthumous barnstars is...interesti...  
Cla68   Will Beback had a number of causes that he pursued...  
gomi   The problem with Will, however, was that he often ...  
radek   The problem with Will, however, was that he often...  
jd turk   Wikipedia, how she exists right now, doesn't just...  
Herschelkrustofsky   When Will first got involved at the LaRouche artic...  
radek   When Will first got involved at the LaRouche arti...  
lilburne   On the other hand, you got Poland and Ukraine. Go...  
Selina   Yeah, it seems to take people who could've been go...  
mbz1   me I just don't want to go anywhere near those k...  
radek   Yeah, it seems to take people who could've been g...  
Cedric   Yeah, it seems to take people who could've been ...  
radek   You're probably right, but maybe I want to be t...  
EricBarbour   You're probably right, but maybe I want to be the...  
jsalsman   I don't want to get involved in any of the controv...  
mbz1   Isn't this strange how wikipedia's wheel of fortun...  
lilburne   And now Lar is gone, and Will is banned himself, ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   What I find perverted is this usage of 'user' whe...  


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