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QUOTE(Miltopia @ Mon 26th November 2007, 4:03pm) Raymond Aritt "quits" after his stupid "don't criticize admins" workshop proposal is rejected: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=...&year=&month=11There's a word for that in online board speak. "Flouncing". They always come back after flouncing off...
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Mon 26th November 2007, 4:56pm) QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Mon 26th November 2007, 11:44pm) Durova was desysopped at about 0.03 UMT. That's about 3pm on 25th November. Being 12 hours or so before she "resigned". Don't know how we all missed that. You've got sharp eyes, DL.... Maybe not too sharp. That as a proposed remedy. Of the three remedies up there, one was support for !!, one was limit Durova's power, and one was desysop. She was also being asked unsavory questions like: QUOTE Question to Durova from KwsnQ. Other than to not reveal the "methods of investigation", was there any other reason why you didn't post the email? Kwsn (Ni!) 19:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
She did answer questions such as the one asking if she really spied on WR, but not the one about why she didn't post the email. She did well to resign. She was going to be asked what she didn't want to answer all along. No chance to answer, my foot. This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey:
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 26th November 2007, 3:00pm) The timing (and the identity of the operant Steward) suggest to me that Durova was strongly induced to resign as a face-saving measure.
Entirely possible, as well as very likely. QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Mon 26th November 2007, 5:08pm) On the other hand, I can think of some admins that have made plenty of bad blocks without resigning. Maybe Durova is having pangs of conscience, and she will decide to turn around and become a crusader for justice. Like Kelly Martin!
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 26th November 2007, 11:29pm) Before falling on your sword, make sure the blade is flat against the ground.QUOTE(Derktar @ Mon 26th November 2007, 6:22pm) Methinks she fell on her sword to save "the list." It occurred to me that there might have been a quid pro quo in the deal. If the Inner Cabal wanted to retain the back-channel machine, Durova would need to be induced not to spill her guts. So they might have had to promise her some consolation prize if she gallantly fell on her sword to bring down the curtain on this act. Forgive my language.... Did you pull that out of your ass? O
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QUOTE(Oracle @ Mon 26th November 2007, 8:52pm) QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 26th November 2007, 11:29pm) Before falling on your sword, make sure the blade is flat against the ground.QUOTE(Derktar @ Mon 26th November 2007, 6:22pm) Methinks she fell on her sword to save "the list." It occurred to me that there might have been a quid pro quo in the deal. If the Inner Cabal wanted to retain the back-channel machine, Durova would need to be induced not to spill her guts. So they might have had to promise her some consolation prize if she gallantly fell on her sword to bring down the curtain on this act. Forgive my language.... Did you pull that out of your ass? O That would be Durovaistic reasoning. Here's mine: Durova is being sent very deep undercover. She must be seen as discredited and abandoned. She infiltrates the evil doers, exposing their nefarious plots and schemes. Attribs: I was a Communist for the FBI.
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I'm not the least bit surprised that she resigned, personally, and I doubt that it was arranged... The simple fact of it is, she didn't have to resign at all - all she had to do was promise to stop portraying herself as some sort of "sock-hunting super-sleuth," given that she obviously wasn't good at it, and go back to doing regular admin duties - in which case, the whole thing would have eventually died down and relatively few people would have complained. Nobody forced her to ask Cary Bass to desysop her, and it's doubtful that the ArbCom would have done it either. And it's not as though her being a regular editor means they're going to kick her off the sooperseekrit mailing list. If you ask me, Durova is probably some sort of depressive personality with a major chip on her shoulder. She's a perfectionist, and not the good kind of perfectionist who actually strives for perfection, but the bad kind who freaks out when perfection can't be achieved - and who then starts blaming others when things go wrong, and ultimately gives up completely at the first instance of an unfixable "stain" on her "perfect record." I doubt she'll stand for another RfA, we eventually may not even see all that much of her again, period. She'll stick around to defend herself (again, by blaming others), but once that gets tiresome, the place will have lost all interest for her. Regular admin duties like reverting vandals and cleaning up articles just aren't enough for sock-hunting super-sleuths, I'm afraid.
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 27th November 2007, 2:51am) QUOTE(dtobias @ Mon 26th November 2007, 9:41pm) QUOTE(Firsfron of Ronchester @ Mon 26th November 2007, 6:25pm) Misfits?This is the first time I've read that misfits aren't welcome on Wikipedia... Is there an Island of Misfit Wikipedians that Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer can rescue? No these Misfits. Gable dies after losing community patience with Monroe. Monroe dies shortly after, trying to relieve her guilt over Gable's permanent "Re-tirement" by partying with the Kennedys only to get an overly stiff death suppository for her troubles. Monty Cliff, a hopeless case on many levels, loses pretty boy status, displays his shadowy former self, and after this last film gasp, dies in seclusion after some more years in seclusion. yeah, i guess it is a cautionary tale for the account status of WP abusers who used to be the cash cows of the Golden Age of The Studio System of Wikipedia. Whether Jimbo claims to be the sole Zannick cannot be confirmed at this time.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 26th November 2007, 11:06pm) I'm not the least bit surprised that she resigned, personally, and I doubt that it was arranged... The simple fact of it is, she didn't have to resign at all — all she had to do was promise to stop portraying herself as some sort of "sock-hunting super-sleuth", given that she obviously wasn't good at it, and go back to doing regular admin duties — in which case, the whole thing would have eventually died down and relatively few people would have complained. Nobody forced her to ask Cary Bass to desysop her, and it's doubtful that the ArbCom would have done it either. And it's not as though her being a regular editor means they're going to kick her off the sooperseekrit mailing list.
If you ask me, Durova is probably some sort of depressive personality with a major chip on her shoulder. She's a perfectionist, and not the good kind of perfectionist who actually strives for perfection, but the bad kind who freaks out when perfection can't be achieved — and who then starts blaming others when things go wrong, and ultimately gives up completely at the first instance of an unfixable "stain" on her "perfect record".
I doubt she'll stand for another RfA, we eventually may not even see all that much of her again, period. She'll stick around to defend herself (again, by blaming others), but once that gets tiresome, the place will have lost all interest for her. Regular admin duties like reverting vandals and cleaning up articles just aren't enough for sock-hunting super-sleuths, I'm afraid.
I haven't been able to follow all of the posts on this and the 5 or 6 other threads devoted to the Durova Debacle, but just from my sample it seems that everyone has missed the more likely possibility that Durova got disciplined not for going ban-anas on Bamm-Bamm — I mean, really, where's the novelty in yet another ban-button mainliner going Koo-Koo 4 Koko-Puffs over dey ??? — but because she outed the existence of SlimVirgin's enemas list. Jonny (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/cool.gif)
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