Admin Caught Socking by CU and ARBCOM, ARB R&I Sock Options

[Beer me]

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Soc...tions/Mikemikev

[carbuncle]

It seems more likely that the password of a dormant admin account was guessed by someone.

[Mathsci]

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Soc...tions/Mikemikev

This was all very strange and the outcome quite surprising. It was the second request for a sockpuppet investigation concerning Rrrrr5, but this time with checkuser ticked. Maunus made the first request, smelling a rat, but nothing was found then. It seems that the accounts are all operated by one person, so at the moment it doesn't seem to be a hacked password.

[EricBarbour]

This was all very strange and the outcome quite surprising. It was the second request for a sockpuppet investigation concerning Rrrrr5, but this time with checkuser ticked. Maunus made the first request, smelling a rat, but nothing was found then. It seems that the accounts are all operated by one person, so at the moment it doesn't seem to be a hacked password.

I read this. Pursuing Mikemikev is one of your obsessions, isn't it?

You just can't resist coming here to bullshit people, can you?

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[Mathsci]

On YouTube Mikemikev wrote a stream of racist attacks, so bad that his account was shut down.

Youtube postings of Mikemikev

On wikipedia he has invented socks with names like "Juden Raus", a username that expressed his personal racist point of view fairly succinctly. One of the newly found socks was not much better:

Old user page of Ghear5849
Their first edit

There are some very creepy people around.

[Sololol]

On YouTube Mikemikev wrote a stream of racist attacks, so bad that his account was shut down.

Youtube postings of Mikemikev

What a thoroughly disgusting person. "Do you even know the Jews push for you to come here because they're scared of white power and a potential Nazi revival. So they figure that mixing us with morons like you will weaken us to the point where we can't resist their dominance. And they're right." With people like him around I don't think we could add more morons with out hitting the saturation point.

[melloden]

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Soc...tions/Mikemikev

This was all very strange and the outcome quite surprising. It was the second request for a sockpuppet investigation concerning Rrrrr5, but this time with checkuser ticked. Maunus made the first request, smelling a rat, but nothing was found then. It seems that the accounts are all operated by one person, so at the moment it doesn't seem to be a hacked password.

CU evidence goes back three months. There's no way they could have told if the person using Spencer195 was the same one using it now.

[Mathsci]

On YouTube Mikemikev wrote a stream of racist attacks, so bad that his account was shut down.

Youtube postings of Mikemikev

What a thoroughly disgusting person. "Do you even know the Jews push for you to come here because they're scared of white power and a potential Nazi revival. So they figure that mixing us with morons like you will weaken us to the point where we can't resist their dominance. And they're right." With people like him around I don't think we could add more morons with out hitting the saturation point.

Mikemikev has gravitated to a website where he probably will feel more at home:

Mikemikev's recent Stormfront post

[Sololol]

On YouTube Mikemikev wrote a stream of racist attacks, so bad that his account was shut down.

Youtube postings of Mikemikev

What a thoroughly disgusting person. "Do you even know the Jews push for you to come here because they're scared of white power and a potential Nazi revival. So they figure that mixing us with morons like you will weaken us to the point where we can't resist their dominance. And they're right." With people like him around I don't think we could add more morons with out hitting the saturation point.

Mikemikev has gravitated to a website where he probably will feel more at home:

Mikemikev's recent Stormfront post

Behind the login wall now but here's the cache for the curious.

I'm so overwhelmed by the amount of crazy in Mikemikev's post that I'm at loss on where to start mocking it.

[Detective]

CU evidence goes back three months. There's no way they could have told if the person using Spencer195 was the same one using it now.

Up to a point. If a checkuser is run now it can only go back three months. But maybe Spencer195 had been checked at some point in the past, whether for some reason or just because a CU felt like doing it That CU could have copied the results to a file and kept it. Or maybe Spencer195 was stupid enough to send someone an e-mail not using Gmail; then the IP would be in the e-mail header forever.

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[radek]

This was all very strange and the outcome quite surprising. It was the second request for a sockpuppet investigation concerning Rrrrr5, but this time with checkuser ticked. Maunus made the first request, smelling a rat, but nothing was found then. It seems that the accounts are all operated by one person, so at the moment it doesn't seem to be a hacked password.

I read this. Pursuing Mikemikev is one of your obsessions, isn't it?

You just can't resist coming here to bullshit people, can you?

This is one of those folks whose presence on Wikipedia SHOULD be pursued. For the most part I'm of the mind that there's too much petty blocking and banning going on - lots of it unfairly - but that doesn't mean that there aren't actual accounts which deserve to get ban hammer smacked. This is one of them.

[EricBarbour]

This is one of those folks whose presence on Wikipedia SHOULD be pursued.

Yes, he probably does deserve it.

But you also have to remember Mathsci's history of chasing people like a maniac---including anyone he thinks might be them.
Not to mention his amazing petulance when he doesn't get his way.....I suspect Abd would have a few choice things to say about Mathsci right about now......

Real encyclopedias don't have loose screws, running private Inquisitions.

[Mathsci]

Eric Barbour is supporting a fairly nasty racist bigot. I am sure that he has his reasons..

Returning to the subject, it is beginning to look highly unlikely that whoever is operatting Spencer195's account will be editing wikipedia for very much longer.

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[lilburne]

Eric Barbour is supporting a fairly nasty racist bigot. I am sure that he has his reasons..

Returning to the subject, it is beginning to look highly unlikely that whoever is operatting Spencer195's account will be editing wikipedia for very much longer.

There are nasty bigots everywhere are there not.

[Kelly Martin]

One of the annoying features of Wikipedia is that there are so many marginalized people there that it's a virtual certainty that, for any dispute, there is someone on both sides of it who can be used to tar his or her codisputants with guilt by association. Experienced Wikipedians do this without even thinking very hard about it.

One of the many reasons that sane people simply avoid Wikipedia entirely.

[carbuncle]

Eric Barbour is supporting a fairly nasty racist bigot. I am sure that he has his reasons..

Returning to the subject, it is beginning to look highly unlikely that whoever is operatting Spencer195's account will be editing wikipedia for very much longer.

Unless they create more sockpuppets, which they will since they are engaged in some kind of ideological battle. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

[A Horse With No Name]

There are nasty bigots everywhere are there not.

As opposed to nice bigots? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

[melloden]

CU evidence goes back three months. There's no way they could have told if the person using Spencer195 was the same one using it now.

Up to a point. If a checkuser is run now it can only go back three months. But maybe Spencer195 had been checked at some point in the past, whether for some reason or just because a CU felt like doing it That CU could have copied the results to a file and kept it. Or maybe Spencer195 was stupid enough to send someone an e-mail not using Gmail; then the IP would be in the e-mail header forever.

Given that he stopped editing in 2005, I find that highly unlikely. Also, I doubt Mikemikev knows Mandarin.

[Sololol]

There are nasty bigots everywhere are there not.

As opposed to nice bigots? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

Affable Anti-Semite Thinks The Jews Are Doing Super Job With The Media

[Mathsci]

CU evidence goes back three months. There's no way they could have told if the person using Spencer195 was the same one using it now.

Up to a point. If a checkuser is run now it can only go back three months. But maybe Spencer195 had been checked at some point in the past, whether for some reason or just because a CU felt like doing it That CU could have copied the results to a file and kept it. Or maybe Spencer195 was stupid enough to send someone an e-mail not using Gmail; then the IP would be in the e-mail header forever.

Given that he stopped editing in 2005, I find that highly unlikely. Also, I doubt Mikemikev knows Mandarin.

Mikemikev spent four months in China teaching English as a foreign langauge at the North China Electric University., although the timing is wrong.

Spencer195 has now been indefinitely blocked by Deskana, who gave these reasons for blocking.

[carbuncle]

CU evidence goes back three months. There's no way they could have told if the person using Spencer195 was the same one using it now.

Up to a point. If a checkuser is run now it can only go back three months. But maybe Spencer195 had been checked at some point in the past, whether for some reason or just because a CU felt like doing it That CU could have copied the results to a file and kept it. Or maybe Spencer195 was stupid enough to send someone an e-mail not using Gmail; then the IP would be in the e-mail header forever.

Given that he stopped editing in 2005, I find that highly unlikely. Also, I doubt Mikemikev knows Mandarin.

Mikemikev spent four months in China teaching English as a foreign langauge at the North China Electric University., although the timing is wrong.

Spencer195 has now been indefinitely blocked by Deskana, who gave these reasons for blocking.

Hello, did someone say "knows Mandarin"?

[Gruntled]

Spencer195 has now been indefinitely blocked by Deskana, who gave these reasons for blocking.

Seems to be a masterpiece of Wikilogic.

Secondly, you state that the policy on alternative accounts was different and asked what policy you violated. That is not an adequate defense. Policy is descriptive, not prescriptive; the fact that the policy has changed does not mean that community standards have. Thirdly, I was active around the time you left and I can assure you that this kind of behaviour was also unacceptable back then, regardless of what the policy stated.

Deskana concedes that no policy was violated but claims that Spencer's behaviour was nevertheless so unacceptable that a block was needed. Why? On what grounds?

Thidly (sic), you also stated that you don't see what you did wrong. This is the most disturbing thing, and the one (sic) of the main reasons I have blocked you.

Fancy that! He believed that since he acted 100% in accordance with policy he had done nothing wrong!! Block him immediately!!!

[Milton Roe]

Spencer195 has now been indefinitely blocked by Deskana, who gave these reasons for blocking.

Seems to be a masterpiece of Wikilogic.

Secondly, you state that the policy on alternative accounts was different and asked what policy you violated. That is not an adequate defense. Policy is descriptive, not prescriptive; the fact that the policy has changed does not mean that community standards have. Thirdly, I was active around the time you left and I can assure you that this kind of behaviour was also unacceptable back then, regardless of what the policy stated.

Deskana concedes that no policy was violated but claims that Spencer's behaviour was nevertheless so unacceptable that a block was needed. Why? On what grounds?

Thidly (sic), you also stated that you don't see what you did wrong. This is the most disturbing thing, and the one (sic) of the main reasons I have blocked you.

Fancy that! He believed that since he acted 100% in accordance with policy he had done nothing wrong!! Block him immediately!!!

Favorite quote from this thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal..._of_permissions :

On a side note, does anyone know if "I'm an admin" pickup lines work? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:20, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

[EricBarbour]

Favorite quote from this thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal..._of_permissions :

On a side note, does anyone know if "I'm an admin" pickup lines work? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:20, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

The part that really caught my eye:

The opposite would also be a red flag situation. If an account remains active for much longer than a century, you can be sure that the original editor is deceased and the account has been handed over to someone else. Count Iblis (talk) 01:39, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

We do have some ninety years to come up with a procedure for such cases. — Coren (talk) 02:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Sure ... though the idea of hereditary adminship is rather appealing (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Roger Davies talk 06:37, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
... and some editors already think we're Lords in a fiefdom ... :-P (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:31, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, if that were the case, we'd need to determine whether administrative rights are transferred by cognatic or agnatic primogeniture. ;-) Kirill [talk] [prof] 15:11, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Why are you excluding matrilineal primogeniture? — Coren (talk) 20:16, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
And Salic law. Let's not forget Salic law. Roger Davies talk 20:19, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
The day we have the "Viscount of Vandal-Whacking", I'm running fast and far (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) SirFozzie (talk) 21:31, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
User:SonOfPedro has already been promised his birth-right. Pedro : Chat 21:37, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

A) their idea of "humor" is extremely nerdy, and not the slightest bit funny;
B) I would not be surprised if a few of them really DO want Wikipedia adminship to be inheritable.
Now, THAT would be funny. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif)

[Kelly Martin]

Ha, this led me to this gem of "original research" in the article on primogeniture:

The term "uterine" implies the woman in whose uterus a fetus developed, which is usually, but not always, the woman whose egg was fertilized to form the embryo. Prior to the 1970s, these were always the same woman, as remains the case for naturally conceived children. However, in cases of surrogacy, in vitro fertilization, and egg donation, it is now possible for a baby born from the uterus of one woman to be the genetic offspring of the egg of another offspring. Therefore, it is now important to distinguish between forms of primogeniture in which inheritance is determined by the woman from whose ovary the egg originated, which could be called "ovarian primogeniture" for clarity, and forms of primogeniture in which inheritance is truly determined uterinely, i.e., by the woman in whose uterus a fetus developed.

The section is titled "Uterine (or ovarian) primogeniture" to reflect the idiosyncratic musings of the feckless author.

Wikipedia, always good for a laugh.

[melloden]

A) their idea of "humor" is extremely nerdy, and not the slightest bit funny;

Er, everything on the Internet is nerdy. Except non-tech-savvy people, who need to get off the Internet.

[Michaeldsuarez]

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Special:Co...tions/Mikemikev

After failing to gain Stormfront support, Mikemikev turns to EncyclopediaDramatica.ch.

[Sololol]

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Special:Co...tions/Mikemikev

After failing to gain Stormfront support, Mikemikev turns to EncyclopediaDramatica.ch.

He's had an account on WR for a few weeks now but has yet to say hello =( I'm a little hurt, mike.

[Michaeldsuarez]

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Special:Co..._New_Mikemikevs

Here we go again. After I confronted Mikemikev and he ended up blocked, Mikemikev crawls back to ED in order to fulfill his or her quest for revenge. Since another sysop decided to tolerate him, I won't attempt to reverse that sysop's decision and re-block him.

[Mathsci]

Thanks to Michaeldsuarez for blocking Mikemikev and deleting that article.


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[Ottava]

Mathsci, I didn't know that you were a Wikipedian Jew. Do they allow dual citizenship? Do you know Wikiddish?

[Mathsci]

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[Ottava]

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Did you realize that I was joking by using "Wikipedia" like "Russian", "German", or whatever other ethnicity? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

By the way, I don't preach sermons. I'm Catholic. We have homilies, but they are clergy only. I just explain Catholic viewpoints that are pertinent to current events about once a month (and on a Saturday).

[Mathsci]

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Did you realize that I was joking by using "Wikipedia" like "Russian", "German", or whatever other ethnicity? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

By the way, I don't preach sermons. I'm Catholic. We have homilies, but they are clergy only. I just explain Catholic viewpoints that are pertinent to current events about once a month (and on a Saturday).

Jeffrey, since the ED material has all been deleted and the account blocked, the best is for you to blank your posts. Thanks.

[Mathsci]

Just for the record.

(IMG:http://i55.tinypic.com/so794w.gif)

[The Joy]

Just for the record.

(IMG:http://i55.tinypic.com/so794w.gif)

Bill Nye the Science Guy?

[mikemikev]

On YouTube Mikemikev wrote a stream of racist attacks, so bad that his account was shut down.

Youtube postings of Mikemikev

On wikipedia he has invented socks with names like "Juden Raus", a username that expressed his personal racist point of view fairly succinctly. One of the newly found socks was not much better:

Old user page of Ghear5849
Their first edit

There are some very creepy people around.

Ghear5849 is nothing to do with me. I shut down my YT account myself. Mathsci is a liar and a troll. He has been called "creepy" by women (FeraghoTheAssassin) on WP, so I guess this is his way of projecting his inadequacies.

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Soc...tions/Mikemikev

I was never an admin. What is this nonsense? You people get caught up in your own lies.

[Retrospect]

Mathsci is a liar and a troll. He has been called "creepy" by women (FeraghoTheAssassin) on WP, so I guess this is his way of projecting his inadequacies.

Yes, there's a lot of it about on WP.

I was never an admin. What is this nonsense? You people get caught up in your own lies.

Half of what goes on around WP is ruddy nonsense. You're better off not involved.

[Michaeldsuarez]

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Soc...tions/Mikemikev

I was never an admin. What is this nonsense? You people get caught up in your own lies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...ar=2011&month=5

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=429886261

Mathsci didn't accuse you of possessing an sysop account; Mathsci accused you of being Rrrrr5 (T-C-L-K-R-D) . Although Mathsci was wrong about "Rrrrr5" being you, he was correct in saying that Rrrrr5 was a sockpuppet. A CheckUser later revealed that the sysop account "Spencer195" might've been compromised by the person behind the "Rrrrr5" account:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=431521166

Mathsci's case against you initially didn't mention "Spencer195" or any other compromised sysop accounts, so he isn't "caught up in [his] own lies." The stuff about "Spencer195" was added later by users other than Mathsci:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&action=history

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[mikemikev]

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Soc...tions/Mikemikev

I was never an admin. What is this nonsense? You people get caught up in your own lies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...ar=2011&month=5

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=429886261

Mathsci didn't accuse you of possessing an sysop account; Mathsci accused you of being Rrrrr5 (T-C-L-K-R-D) . Although Mathsci was wrong about "Rrrrr5" being you, he was correct in saying that Rrrrr5 was a sockpuppet. A CheckUser later revealed that the sysop account "Spencer195" might've been compromised by the person behind the "Rrrrr5" account:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=431521166

Mathsci's original report didn't mention "Spencer195" or any other compromised sysop accounts, so he wasn't "caught up in [his] own lies."

Which is all entirely irrelevant to "Beer me"'s original false assertion that I was an admin caught socking.

BTW it was you that deleted my hilarious Dramatica article?

What a wet blanket you are.

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