Advisory Council on Project Development Options

[Eva Destruction]

Surprised this hasn't already been mentioned here, especially since it seems to be composed of 75% WR members. While I'm more than willing to be pleasantly surprised, this looks like a very peculiar idea to me. (My thoughts on the matter are here).

[Kelly Martin]

What I find really interesting in reading the comments on the RfC and its talk page is that Wikipedians in general appear to be remarkably stupid people. Does nobody in this entire pit of despair understand the utility of a discussion group or an exploratory committee? It's quite common for bodies corporates to establish a committee and charge it to "investigate options and report". Such a committee has no "authority" to do anything, and yet such committees are both commonplace and essential.

I assume that the main reason for this is that the Wikipedia community, or at least that section of it that participates in "community discussions", is overwhelmingly stocked with teenagers who have no experience with anything other than being bossed around by their parents and their teachers, and have no concept of someone having authority arising from any source other than fiat.

Oh, and in addendum I see that Slimmy is going after Flonight now. Two snakes going at it, that should be good for some lulz.

[everyking]

What I find really interesting in reading the comments on the RfC and its talk page is that Wikipedians in general appear to be remarkably stupid people. Does nobody in this entire pit of despair understand the utility of a discussion group or an exploratory committee? It's quite common for bodies corporates to establish a committee and charge it to "investigate options and report". Such a committee has no "authority" to do anything, and yet such committees are both commonplace and essential.

I assume that the main reason for this is that the Wikipedia community, or at least that section of it that participates in "community discussions", is overwhelmingly stocked with teenagers who have no experience with anything other than being bossed around by their parents and their teachers, and have no concept of someone having authority arising from any source other than fiat.

Oh, and in addendum I see that Slimmy is going after Flonight now. Two snakes going at it, that should be good for some lulz.

Kelly, I hear the ArbCom is now considering applications to join the council...it's not too late to sign up! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

[Kelly Martin]

Kelly, I hear the ArbCom is now considering applications to join the council...it's not too late to sign up! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

I just tried to email Casliber about it, but he lists a false email on the ArbCom page, and Newyorkbrad has so far refused to convey my interest to the Committee.

[Cla68]

Hmmm. SV, while you're in the mood for "transparency", why don't you go ahead and post all of the emails froom 2006-2008 in which you asked editors to assist you in edit wars by reverting other editors, or asking for support at AfDs or RfAs in which you had taken a stance on, or asked for help in ramming through a change to a policy page? Your actions during that time are some of the reasons why Wikipedia's governance is so broken. Yes, you significantly helped create the problem, now a few people are trying to fix it. Why are you trying to stand in the way?

As Casliber just reminded you on his talk page, RfCs generally last for at least a month. I think you should relax and allow the RfC to flow for at least that amount of time. In the meantime, this council will try to get some work done. I think you have some more productive things to do than in engage in shrill advocacy for your position on the talk pages of the various arbitrators and Rootology's talk page?

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[Kelly Martin]

I think you have some more productive things to do than in engage in shrill advocacy for your position on the talk pages of the various arbitrators and Rootology's talk page?

What makes you think that? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)