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QUOTE(Ottava @ Wed 5th May 2010, 3:16pm) By technicality, the Muslims who get angry over it should still be angry as merely labeling someone as the prophet would be enough since we don't actually know what he looks like (and could look like Henry VIII in full royal gown).
Uh - we know exactly what he looked like, since his son-in-law helpfully left a description: QUOTE [Muhammad] is neither too short nor too tall. His hair is neither curly nor straight, but a mixture of the two. He is a man of black hair and large skull. His complexion has a tinge of redness. His shoulder bones are broad and his palms and feet are fleshy. He has long hair growing from neck to navel. He has long eye-lashes, close eye-brows, smooth and shining fore-head and a long space between his shoulders. When he walks he walks inclining as if coming down from a height. I never saw a man like him before him or after him
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Wed 5th May 2010, 3:09pm) Three-to-one-on that this argument results in (1) someone being blocked, (2) someone saying "do you know who I am?", (3) someone whining on Jimmy Wales's talkpage and/or (4) a mention in the Register. You heard it here first. You're probably right. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif) There is also a fair chance the word "wiki-hounding" might be used at some point in the future, in reference to anyone that disagrees more than once with Cirt. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) That aside, is it a good hook/article for the main page?
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Wed 5th May 2010, 7:24am) Uh - we know exactly what he looked like, since his son-in-law helpfully left a description: QUOTE [Muhammad] is neither too short nor too tall. His hair is neither curly nor straight, but a mixture of the two. He is a man of black hair and large skull. His complexion has a tinge of redness. His shoulder bones are broad and his palms and feet are fleshy. He has long hair growing from neck to navel. He has long eye-lashes, close eye-brows, smooth and shining fore-head and a long space between his shoulders. When he walks he walks inclining as if coming down from a height. I never saw a man like him before him or after him That sounds just like this guy: (IMG: http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7461/mrnaturaljustpassinthru.jpg)
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QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 5th May 2010, 5:14pm) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Wed 5th May 2010, 7:24am) Uh - we know exactly what he looked like, since his son-in-law helpfully left a description: QUOTE [Muhammad] is neither too short nor too tall. His hair is neither curly nor straight, but a mixture of the two. He is a man of black hair and large skull. His complexion has a tinge of redness. His shoulder bones are broad and his palms and feet are fleshy. He has long hair growing from neck to navel. He has long eye-lashes, close eye-brows, smooth and shining fore-head and a long space between his shoulders. When he walks he walks inclining as if coming down from a height. I never saw a man like him before him or after him That sounds just like this guy: OMG! Infidel!
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QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Wed 5th May 2010, 3:55pm) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Wed 5th May 2010, 3:09pm) Three-to-one-on that this argument results in (1) someone being blocked, (2) someone saying "do you know who I am?", (3) someone whining on Jimmy Wales's talkpage and/or (4) a mention in the Register. You heard it here first. You're probably right. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif) There is also a fair chance the word "wiki-hounding" might be used at some point in the future, in reference to anyone that disagrees more than once with Cirt. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) Bingo.
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QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Wed 5th May 2010, 4:26pm) Ah, the obsequious thanks. I guess that's how you make friends and allies in Wikiland. Let's see if this will develop into full-fledged persecution of Gatoclass. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/popcorn.gif) I think that I am fairly familiar with Wikipedia and its problems, but the point of this discussion is lost on me. Could someone explain what it is that makes Cirt any worse than any other administrator (Gatoclass for example), or why Pieter Kuiper is any better than any other user who is involved on one side in Wikipedia's I/P disputes?
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Thu 6th May 2010, 2:46pm) QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 6th May 2010, 9:46am) You obviously have not acquainted yourself with scholars such as Nicholas of Kues. Indeed I am not. But could you say more about his role in promoting diligent epistemology of arbitrary beliefs systems (including scientific beliefs, religious beliefs, secular political beliefs, and popular cultural beliefs)? Islam may be the world's largest religion, and is certainly one of the largest. Apparently1.3-1.5 billion according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_worldSome of Islamic countries are very wealthy also. Why do you think that is "Speaking Trash to the Powerless"?
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QUOTE(Kwork @ Thu 6th May 2010, 10:24am) QUOTE(Moulton @ Thu 6th May 2010, 2:46pm) QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 6th May 2010, 9:46am) You obviously have not acquainted yourself with scholars such as Nicholas of Kues. Indeed I am not. But could you say more about his role in promoting diligent epistemology of arbitrary beliefs systems (including scientific beliefs, religious beliefs, secular political beliefs, and popular cultural beliefs)? Islam may be the world's largest religion, and is certainly one of the largest. Apparently1.3-1.5 billion according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_worldSome of Islamic countries are very wealthy also. Why do you think that is "Speaking Trash to the Powerless"? I live in America. More than 99% of the users of this site and en.WP are from the the English speaking world and Europe. Muslims are a small and hard pressed minority in our society. They are easy to pick on and vilify. Almost no one will speak up if you do. I'm speaking up for my neighbors and countrymen who are Muslims.
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Thu 6th May 2010, 3:30pm) QUOTE(Kwork @ Thu 6th May 2010, 10:24am) QUOTE(Moulton @ Thu 6th May 2010, 2:46pm) QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 6th May 2010, 9:46am) You obviously have not acquainted yourself with scholars such as Nicholas of Kues. Indeed I am not. But could you say more about his role in promoting diligent epistemology of arbitrary beliefs systems (including scientific beliefs, religious beliefs, secular political beliefs, and popular cultural beliefs)? Islam may be the world's largest religion, and is certainly one of the largest. Apparently1.3-1.5 billion according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_worldSome of Islamic countries are very wealthy also. Why do you think that is "Speaking Trash to the Powerless"? I live in America. More than 99% of the users of this site and en.WP are from the the English speaking world and Europe. Muslims are a small and hard pressed minority in our society. They are easy to pick on and vilify. Almost no one will speak up if you do. I'm speaking up for my neighbors and countrymen who are Muslims. The Muslim population in the USA is rather well educated, many very well educated. The ones that have citizenship vote, and most are politically active. It is a small population, but probably already bigger than the USA Jewish population. Muslims need to develop an ability to deal with stuff they may not like. Of course hate speech is forbiden, but otherwise mild humor and criticism is protected freedom of speech. I would like to see Muslims develop enough humor about themselves so they could make an ad like this one made by Israeli Jews about their own religion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQQkopQSOlA
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