Today I will get community banned Options

[mbz1]

Today I will get community banned, getting attacked by a lynch mob without any ability to say anything in my defense.

But here's an interesting comment by Will Beback

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=476232084

*'''Comment''' If folks can be sanctioned for what they do on other websites then there are a bunch of WR contributors who'll have a lot to answer for. I think that might be a good idea, but I just want to make sure that folks know the proposed action here would set a precedent

The situation reminded to me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came%E2%80%A6 this thing

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Good luck to the ones who's left, and who's never spoken out!

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[Wikifan]

weren't you already banned from wikipedia already? im trying to understand what you were actually banned for. i dont see any diffs in the link.

if mbz1 is the standard for community banned then many editors should be getting the shaft as well, including several admins.

but of course that will never happen.

[mbz1]

weren't you already banned from wikipedia already? im trying to understand what you were actually banned for. i dont see any diffs in the link.

You are right, there was no any differences. I was banned for alleged harassment, but neither members of govcom nor the users who supported the ban read my RFC, and altough I asked them to provide some specific differences of the alleged harassment I was refused, or simply ignored., but I did get an interesting feedback from WMF employee . He looked at tens of idiotic blocks Gwen imposed, and found a single one to complain about.I happily explained to him why this block was unwarranted and he shut up.

Comments by Philippe (WMF)

Really? w:User:Nextbook is the example you want to use? I agree with that block, 100%. Philippe (WMF) 04:20, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the comment, Philippe (WMF).
Yes, I would like to use this example and here's why:
1. A new editor made a few contributions.
2. He is warned he has to use sources.
3. So in his next two edits he tries to use sources.In this edit he provides not just one, but three sources almost for every sentence he adds, but he does it like this "(Marks, "Lost Paradise", page 292.) " because he is not sure what is the right way to list references. In his next and the last edit he inserts the external link to the article in Guardian, which of course is a reliable source.
4. The user is blocked and never returns.
So, IMO Gwen Gale at least failed to assume a good faith towards new user. Also she was edit warring with him before the block. Maybe there was not enough involvement, but this was a wrong block of a new user, who should have been helped not blocked. May I please ask you to clarify why you said you'd supported the block? Thanks.--Mbz1 04:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
BTW I did find the book the user referred to. It is a reliable source that was published by Free Press.--Mbz1 04:57, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Do you still "agree with that block, 100%"?--Mbz1 16:53, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

(there was no response although I asked him the same question at his talk too. )

Nobody else commented on the content, nobody pointed out a harassment, but I was banned.

There were a few honest and absolutely uninvolved admins and users from Meta and other projects that stated there was no harassment

I can´t see any harrasement in this request, just links provided to public logs and talks. Already the first request for deletion was rejected because of that, so please stop posting it over and over again. Thanks. --[[User:WizardOfOz|<font face="Monotype corsiva" size="4" style="color:#000000;color:blue"><i>WizardOfOz</i></font>]] ^{<span style="font-family:Italic;color:blue">[[user_talk:WizardOfOz|talk]]</span>} 07:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

*{{keep}} and strongly per WizardOfOz. [[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 12:04, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

BTW here's an interesting point: If one says there were no harassment, one should not provide a differences to support his statement. If one says there was harassment, at least one difference is required.
Anyway there was absolutely nothing to ban me for, but I have a good idea what a dirty game played by WMF lead to this ban.

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[The Garbage Skow]

BTW here's an interesting point: If one says there were no harassment, one should not provide a differences to support his statement. If one says there was harassment, at least one difference is required.
Anyway there was absolutely nothing to ban me for, but I have a good idea what a dirty game played by WMF lead to this ban.

I thought you didn't care that you were banned and were happy to be gone from wikipedia? Almost everything you've said here since you were banned on AN/I tells a totally different story.

[mbz1]

BTW here's an interesting point: If one says there were no harassment, one should not provide a differences to support his statement. If one says there was harassment, at least one difference is required.
Anyway there was absolutely nothing to ban me for, but I have a good idea what a dirty game played by WMF lead to this ban.

I thought you didn't care that you were banned and were happy to be gone from wikipedia? Almost everything you've said here since you were banned on AN/I tells a totally different story.

Well, community ban and blocks are different. I was not going to go to wikipedia ever again. I am happy I left. I did not care, if it was a self-requested block or a block by arbcom, but community ban hurt me, not because now I could never return (I was not going to return anyway), but it makes me sad to be banned like that. It was not only unneeded and unfair. It was also very cruel.

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[Emperor]

Well, community ban and blocks are different. I was not going to go to wikipedia ever again. I am happy I left. I did not care, if it was a self-requested block or a block by arbcom, but community ban hurt me, not because now I could never return (I was not going to return anyway), but it makes me sad to be banned like that. It was not only unneeded and unfair. It was also very cruel.

We have a support group here. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif)

but yes Wikipedians are high level internet trolls and they do know how to push those buttons, take a nice person and make them feel and behave like an obsessed loser.

You just have to accept that there is nothing you can say that will make you win. No perfect argument. No brilliant explanation. Nothing. You are banned, therefore you are less than. An imperfect person, not quite a human being anymore.

Sorry about that.

[Larry Sanger]

This sort of thing amuses me. I have no idea about the merits of mbz1's case against the administrator, or the case against mbz1 for bringing the case, although I have my suspicions. But is it really possible for anybody in his right mind to get all broken up about being kicked out of the Wikipedia insane asylum? I mean, they're so ridiculously self-important, when they aren't acting like trolls, and show no sense of grace, humanity, or even style. Admins and even rank-and-file contributors go around making high-sounding declarations and announcements, as if they were government officials dispensing court orders. And then, if you really want to keep working on the wiki, nothing is stopping you from making a new account and getting back to work, instantly, as everybody knows. It's ridiculous. In fact, the complexity of the ridiculousness is mind-boggling, and would take a very complicated essay to tease out. Evidently mbz1 isn't actually upset about being blocked, and is taking a sensible attitude. I was blocked, and voted to be blocked myself, but they voted to unblock me anyway. Go figure!

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[mbz1]

Wikipedia insane asylum

Yes, cannot have said any better:
after reading this edit summary

fuck this site and the abusive cowards that for the most part administrate it

by English wikipedia admin, and oversighter Beeblebrox (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

Besides everything else Beeblebrox even does not know how to read. Once I quoted an article from WS Journal and got this post http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=411447420

Holy shit, did you really just say that?!?! Go away. I can't think of anything else to say in the face of such blatant racism, go away and don't come back. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 21:44, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

It took Beeblebrox a few hours to understand what it was reading, and strike out its stupidity.
It is scary to think who gets the tools in "Wikipedia insane asylum".

The word it could not understand was "the debasement".Back then I emailed to the author of the article in WS Journal, and told him about wikipedia admin Beeblebrox. He emailed me back and told me he has known for a long time that there is "the debasement of Wikipedia mind" . He advised me stop contributing to wikipedia. I wish I listened.

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