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PR Making Little Headway with Wikipedia

A furious battle, which PR is losing, is taking place on the Facebook site called Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement (CREWE), created by Phil Gomes, SVP of Edelman Digital, Chicago.

As of press time 127 participants had posted hundreds of comments, many of them by frustrated PR pros who can?t get their entries and corrections past Wikipedia's 10,000 volunteer editors. (We tried five postings on PR subjects and all of them were promptly scratched).

Contributors who run afoul of the volunteers too many times can find themselves permanently blocked.

WP boss Jimmy Wales is dead set against entries by anyone getting paid to submit them. He only wants input from “reliable” media and never from “primary” sources.

A Wikipedian, for instance, would never attend a sporting event and report what happened. He or she would wait for a write-up in a “reliable” medium which would then be posted.

WP interprets “encyclopedic” to mean unbiased and neutral although the dictionary says it means “all-encompassing, exhaustive, in-depth,” etc. There is no mention of truth or accuracy.

Such things are hammered out in public debate as is being done on CREWE. Other websites including www.techdirt.com are conducting the same debate.

A chief WP critic is Gregory Kohs, who has paying clients that want their WP entries corrected and updated.

Kohs, who has posted dozens of comments on CREWE, has now been banned from the site. He says PR pros who think they can be “submissive” and comply with WP rules are fooling themselves.

“The system is deliberately rigged to favor anonymous anti-corporate zealots with agendas to push,” he says.


The WP philosophy is that rank amateurs should be in charge of information flow.

We wonder if any Wikipedians would fly on an airplane built by weekend aeronautical buffs?

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PR Society associate PR director Keith Trivitt, who has nine posts on CREWE and who is co-author of a nine-part “CREWE PR Plan,” has made a serious gaffe by saying PRS and global PR groups can combine to put “pressure” on Wales. PRS is currently dealing with 12 international PR groups in a bid to come up with a new definition of PR.

Such a threat is likely to make Wales even madder at PR if that is possible.


So Wikipedia can use blackouts in order to place pressure on its enemies, but no one isn't allowed to assemble into larger groups in order to challenge Wikipedia? Whatever happened to freedom of association and freedom of assembly? Only the "good guys" are allowed to exercise their rights or something?

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PR Society associate PR director Keith Trivitt, who has nine posts on CREWE and who is co-author of a nine-part “CREWE PR Plan,” has made a serious gaffe by saying PRS and global PR groups can combine to put “pressure” on Wales. PRS is currently dealing with 12 international PR groups in a bid to come up with a new definition of PR.

It might be possible to pressure Wales, although I doubt these PR guys have the balls to do the
necessary dirty work. One has to have high stakes involved, and since Wikipedia is slowly declining,
there is less and less need for such activities. If there were billions of dollars at stake, I guarantee
someone would be breaking Jimbo's kneecaps right now. But he's just not important anymore.
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