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thekohser
post Mon 3rd October 2011, 2:26pm
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This month's report on previous month's traffic on Wikipedia has garnered over 2,500 page views on Examiner, for some reason.

Maybe it's the unsettling fact that the Wikipedia Main Page has experienced four straight months of decline in page views.
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post Tue 4th October 2011, 1:37am
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Well, the "Mathematical_descriptions_of_opacity" story is indeed strange.

http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/Mathematica...ions_of_opacity
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post Tue 4th October 2011, 1:54am
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It's fairly frequent that some obscure, irrelevant article gets bumped like that. I've yet to hear any explanation for this sort of thing that makes sense, although it seems likely that some sort of automated process, likely doing something malicious, or at least devious.
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post Tue 4th October 2011, 2:46am
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The drop in main page views may just mean that people are getting to Wikipedia articles through methods other than passing by the main page, such as a direct google search for an article.
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post Tue 4th October 2011, 3:17am
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 4th October 2011, 1:54am) *

It's fairly frequent that some obscure, irrelevant article gets bumped like that. I've yet to hear any explanation for this sort of thing that makes sense, although it seems likely that some sort of automated process, likely doing something malicious, or at least devious.

The same happened to one of the articles I wrote. I believe it was linked to from another site for a few days.
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post Tue 4th October 2011, 6:40am
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 4th October 2011, 3:17am) *

QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 4th October 2011, 1:54am) *

It's fairly frequent that some obscure, irrelevant article gets bumped like that. I've yet to hear any explanation for this sort of thing that makes sense, although it seems likely that some sort of automated process, likely doing something malicious, or at least devious.

The same happened to one of the articles I wrote. I believe it was linked to from another site for a few days.


That's a really interesting article. Thank you for making it.
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post Tue 4th October 2011, 6:41am
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Mon 3rd October 2011, 7:46pm) *

The drop in main page views may just mean that people are getting to Wikipedia articles through methods other than passing by the main page, such as a direct google search for an article.

Any evidence to support that, or are you just guessing?
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post Tue 4th October 2011, 11:23am
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Mon 3rd October 2011, 11:17pm) *

The same happened to one of the articles I wrote. I believe it was linked to from another site for a few days.


You're still a few million off from a spike of 5 million hits.

QUOTE(Silver seren @ Mon 3rd October 2011, 10:46pm) *

The drop in main page views may just mean that people are getting to Wikipedia articles through methods other than passing by the main page, such as a direct google search for an article.


I agree that this is likely at least part of the explanation, and I noted in my news article that OVERALL Wikipedia site traffic remains steadily high.
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It would appear that one individual or one bot is responsible for the activity on the Mathematical opacity article.

Now, how do we get massive templates into these articles, at the moment they start to take off?
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post Tue 4th October 2011, 4:05pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 4th October 2011, 8:17am) *

It would appear that one individual or one bot is responsible for the activity on the Mathematical opacity article.

Now, how do we get massive templates into these articles, at the moment they start to take off?

You have to wonder why someone would do that, and from a single IP hmmm.gif It's not like a DDOS, where the bandwidth consumed is someone else's! Also, it doesn't say in the synopsis, but did the bot just hit the same URL (one transaction) or did it pull down the whole page, images and all ...
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post Tue 4th October 2011, 4:27pm
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Tue 4th October 2011, 6:40am) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 4th October 2011, 3:17am) *

QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 4th October 2011, 1:54am) *

It's fairly frequent that some obscure, irrelevant article gets bumped like that. I've yet to hear any explanation for this sort of thing that makes sense, although it seems likely that some sort of automated process, likely doing something malicious, or at least devious.

The same happened to one of the articles I wrote. I believe it was linked to from another site for a few days.


That's a really interesting article. Thank you for making it.

Thanks. It was fun working on it. If you are interested in paradoxes, you may like this one too

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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Mon 3rd October 2011, 11:17pm) *

The same happened to one of the articles I wrote. I believe it was linked to from another site for a few days.


You're still a few million off from a spike of 5 million hits.


Come on, a few million more, a few million less, who cares tongue.gif

What I meant was that the article I mentioned also have unexplained spikes in traffic.
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post Tue 4th October 2011, 5:53pm
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 4th October 2011, 12:27pm) *

What I meant was that the article I mentioned also have unexplained spikes in traffic.


I believe you fairly rationally explained it, though. That's not "unexplained".
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post Tue 11th October 2011, 6:04pm
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QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 4th October 2011, 12:05pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 4th October 2011, 8:17am) *

It would appear that one individual or one bot is responsible for the activity on the Mathematical opacity article.

Now, how do we get massive templates into these articles, at the moment they start to take off?

You have to wonder why someone would do that, and from a single IP hmmm.gif It's not like a DDOS, where the bandwidth consumed is someone else's! Also, it doesn't say in the synopsis, but did the bot just hit the same URL (one transaction) or did it pull down the whole page, images and all ...

Here's another scientist noticing the matter. I wonder if he read the Examiner article? I wonder if he knows about the discussion about it on the Wikitech-l mailing list? If only I weren't banned from Wikipedia, I could help inform him on this unsolved matter.

Edit: He found out about the opacity article traffic from this list.

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post Tue 11th October 2011, 7:57pm
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This amount of traffic is probably a coding error in someone's bot, but we might never know.

And that brings up something else. As I keep trying to say, Wikipedia is now being edited and
massaged by so many bots, it's absurd. No one even knows how many bots there are, the only
list of them is miserably short and outdated.

I suspect that Wikipedia is, most of the time (at least 60% and probably more like 90%),
no longer read OR written by human beings. It is now a bot-playground.

I have asked experts on bot editing of WP, and even they have no idea who runs the bots,
who writes the bots, which of the users are bots, or even how many there are. No one tries to
keep track, and the WMF doesn't care---all they care about is keeping edit statistics cranked up,
so they can keep begging money from donors. The "community" responded....by writing bots that
generate junk articles and pointless format edits. The existing articles get worse and worse, and
new articles look like this and this and this. All generated by bots that scrape other websites.

NO ONE reads them, because such information is useful to no one who would come to Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is turning into a "zombie encyclopedia". Soon, it will be like the Open Directory Project--
a "closed" project, edited and controlled only by a small group of totally insane basement-dwellers.
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post Tue 11th October 2011, 8:09pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 11th October 2011, 12:57pm) *

Wikipedia is turning into a "zombie encyclopedia".


You say that Wikipedia is turning into a zombie encyclopedia. Tell me about your feelings.
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post Tue 11th October 2011, 8:23pm
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If only I could find a cartoonist who can draw in Matt Groening's style. I'd commission a comic book
of Wikipedia's absurd "history" prior to 2008. Replete with lies to the press, lies on mailing lists,
backstabbing on IRC, Wales getting his knob sucked by women who want something from him,
Carolyn Doran being dragged away by the cops, Robot Sue Gardner destroying people with her
eye lasers, Erik Moeller hanging around a playground in a dirty overcoat, Gerard in bondage gear
running porn websites and berating people on foundation-l, etc.

One could make a whole series of comics about this stuff. Its every bit as stupid and unbelievable
as Futurama is, or the X-Men....
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thekohser
post Tue 11th October 2011, 8:55pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 11th October 2011, 4:23pm) *

If only I could find a cartoonist who can draw in Matt Groening's style.


I rather enjoyed Cock-up-over-conspiracy's many "cartoons" on this very site -- mostly mere arrangements of freely-licensed images with speech or thought bubbles over the speaking characters. They were great.

Examples:

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