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Posted by: thekohser

This could be http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bob-geldof-jimmy-wales-and-justin-rose-the-inspirational-new-ambassadors-for-swiss-watch-brand-maurice-lacroix-82576357.html a hilarious wave of Jimbo endorsements.

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Bob Geldof, Jimmy Wales and Justin Rose: The Inspirational New Ambassadors for Swiss Watch Brand Maurice Lacroix

ZURICH, January 25 /PRNewswire/ --

- Cross Reference: Picture is Distributed via EPA (European Pressphoto Agency) and can be Downloaded Free of Charge at: http://www.presseportal.ch/de/pm/100005598/?langid=2

Maurice Lacroix has created an inspiring, meaningful and above all, authentic brand campaign: "Follow Your Convictions". With the help of their new world-renowned ambassadors Sir Bob Geldof, Jimmy Wales and Justin Rose, Maurice Lacroix are inspiring the world to be who they really are across a variety of media, from print and TV to online.

Just as Maurice Lacroix creates its award-winning designs and ingenious movements by hand, each world-famous ambassador was chosen because they too have never veered from their beliefs in their journey to success.

"You can't just say you're authentic or that you have substance," explains Sir Bob. "That won't wash. You've got to prove it. You've got to be it. In everything you do." And he should know. In his lifetime Sir Bob has been a music journalist, had a succession of international hit records with his punk band The Boomtown Rats, organised arguably the most successful global fundraising events of all time in LiveAid and Live8, created his own TV production company and is an accomplished businessman in his own right. "Let nobody tell you who you are."

Justin Rose is an extraordinary golfer who defied all odds by going pro at just 17 years old. "That decision was always controversial, but I don't care about controversy. I just believed in myself." And it paid off. In his career, Justin has won multiple titles and even made it to European no.1. Today, he is considered one of the most consistent competitors on the PGA Tour as well as finding time to be a devoted husband, father and charity worker.

Then there's Jimmy Wales, the incredible internet entrepreneur who founded Wikipedia. "I imagined a world where every single person on the planet was given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. Then I created it." Staying true to his convictions, Jimmy quickly turned Wikipedia into a non-profit foundation to ensure his dream of free knowledge for the world remained intact. Today, Wikipedia.org is one of the five most visited sites on the whole of the internet.

With these truly authentic and inspiring ambassadors beside them, Maurice Lacroix have the perfect partners to support their unique positioning in the marketplace.
As CEO Martin Bachmann concludes, "Our ambassadors achieved greatness without the need to compromise their principles. We at Maurice Lacroix share this incredible passion, as our innovative and pioneering watches prove, time after time."

Contact for press inquiries:

Maurice Lacroix S.A.
Katrin Roth, International PR Manager
Tel. +41(0)44-209-12-73
Email: katrin.roth@mauricelacroix.com

Free accessible database on: http://www.mauricelacroix.com


Oh, dear... http://mauricelacroix.com/#JIMMY%20WALES, Jimbo -- and help us clean up our vomit when you're talking about "authenticity"!

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"If you try to pretend to be something you aren't, that shows through." -- Jimmy Wales, "Founder" of Wikipedia

Posted by: Jon Awbrey


I don't look for trouble — I don't buy crowd-sourced watches.

Cache Me @ Dewar's …

Jon Image

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 26th January 2010, 12:21pm) *

This could be http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bob-geldof-jimmy-wales-and-justin-rose-the-inspirational-new-ambassadors-for-swiss-watch-brand-maurice-lacroix-82576357.html a hilarious wave of Jimbo endorsements.

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Bob Geldof, Jimmy Wales and Justin Rose: The Inspirational New Ambassadors for Swiss Watch Brand Maurice Lacroix

ZURICH, January 25 /PRNewswire/ --

Then there's Jimmy Wales, the incredible internet entrepreneur who founded Wikipedia. "I imagined a world where every single person on the planet was given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. Then I created it." Staying true to his convictions, Jimmy quickly turned Wikipedia into a non-profit foundation to ensure his dream of free knowledge for the world remained intact. Today, Wikipedia.org is one of the five most visited sites on the whole of the internet.

If they're mechanical watches, it is sort of appropriate for Jimbo to hawk them. Afterall, he still demands that most of the stuff on his site be done by volunteers, by hand. No help from programming. Imagine if he ran a Swiss watch company. biggrin.gif

They should have a $20 Casio endorsed by Sanger, that nobody will buy because nobody will be impressed by your rocklike individuality when you wear it. Although it keeps better time.

Posted by: thekohser

Remember all the trouble Kato went to in order to photoshop Jimbo in a laboratory coat?

All we needed to do was http://www.wikipediareview.com/Image:Jimbo_posing_in_lab_coat.jpg!

Somebody notify me when Jimbo's endorsement has pushed LaCroix's web traffic past the 0.5MWB point (that is, http://www.wikipediareview.com/Image:LaCroix_vs_MWB.jpg of Wikipedia Review.com).

Posted by: GlassBeadGame

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Staying true to his convictions, Jimmy quickly turned Wikipedia into a non-profit foundation
...as a Randoid?

Don't "entrepreneurs" have to actual make money? Not Wikia, at least not much. Maybe they meant his "pornography entrepreneur" period. So what will the slogan be? Maybe: "for when accuracy doesn't matter." or "Truthiness Time: what time do you want it to say?"

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 26th January 2010, 12:50pm) *

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Staying true to his convictions, Jimmy quickly turned Wikipedia into a non-profit foundation
...as a Randoid?

Don't "entrepreneurs" have to actual make money? Not Wikia, at least not much. Maybe they meant his "pornography entrepreneur" period. So what will the slogan be? Maybe: "for when accuracy doesn't matter." or "Truthiness Time: what time do you want it to say?"

I think his watch said: "Time for me to move all my assets into a foundation, where a civil suit couldn't touch them." And time for me to move to Florida while the Chicago thing blows over. Before there was O.J., there was Jimbo.

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

So what does Sanger get, a Timex from K-Mart? unhappy.gif

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 26th January 2010, 6:40pm) *

So what does Sanger get, a Timex from K-Mart? unhappy.gif

With Mickey Mouse hands. It looks so cute at 6:30! smile.gif

Posted by: RDH(Ghost In The Machine)

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Wed 27th January 2010, 1:40am) *

So what does Sanger get, a Timex from K-Mart? unhappy.gif


Such is how our society rewards honest, hardworking intellects, as opposed to lazy punks and whores. mad.gif

Posted by: thekohser

The http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=340254589&oldid=340247312 caught like a deer in the headlights:

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Posted by: thekohser

Wow, they are getting so http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&oldid=340401149#Maurice_Lacroix_endorsement on Jimbo's talk page. The man is giving it all away to "charity" (such as the WMF). Give him a break, if he wants to keep his charitable giving a big secret!

Posted by: carbuncle

It's really no one's business if Jimbo wants to trade on his name recognition to promote his girlfriend's energy bars, but there is a valid point being made in this case - Jimbo is using the Wikipedia name to make money. That the money goes to charities (including bt not limited to the WMF) isn't really an answer. I can't blame him for getting shirty about the questions being asked, but those same people who would leave if Jimbo started putting ads on WP might feel the same way about this.

Anyone want to take a guess as to whether or not Jimbo accepted a free watch as part of the deal?

Posted by: dogbiscuit

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Wed 27th January 2010, 10:02pm) *

Anyone want to take a guess as to whether or not Jimbo accepted a free watch as part of the deal?

Hmmm, not sure, but if they had a really good flashlight*, he'd be there as quick as a rat up a drainpipe.



*I wonder what model he's usingpromoting these days?

Posted by: Abd

WikiWatch, the watch anyone can set.

Posted by: Cock-up-over-conspiracy

The Maurice Lacroix advert is just asking to be ripped and re-edited ... it is http://mauricelacroix.com/#JIMMY%20WALES. It is a 'status by association' gig ... Jimbo the Knowledgeful meets St Bob.

"Pretend to be someone you aren't" Jimmy Wales still claims to be the founder of the Wikipedia instead of the co-founder or whatever. As a member of the board of trustees of a not-for-profit of such a stature, such questions are not out of place.

What gets about the dangleberries who hang out around his anus talk page is that, cleaning up or answering questions for other people on other people's Wikipedia talk pages, is on a par with tossing salad in a prison.

But cleaning up Jimbo's talk pages, and answering especially ethical questions for him ... it is a bit like tossing the salad of the Prison Bitch.

As an "ambassador for Maurice Lacroix", it suggests an ongoing contract ... perhaps the need to turn up for a few gigs every year? I guess we could always raise our concerns about all the amateur hard core pornography, lack of child protection, etc with CEO Martin Bachmann and the directors of Maurice Lacroix too? For the lazy ... Katrin Roth, International PR Manager as above.

If you want a good laugh ... the Wikipedia article for Maurice Lacroix has been tagged as

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This article is written like an advertisement. Please help rewrite this article from a neutral point of view. For blatant advertising that would require a fundamental rewrite to become encyclopedic, use {{db-spam}} to mark for speedy deletion.

Since March 2009.


Justin Rose and Maurice Lacroix signed a contract for "a close partnership" which will last for three years, with an option on extension for two additional years.

What did Jimmy Wales get? Less? Any PR person worth their salt will be able to tell you what it is worth in seconds ... It will come out ... if not Jimbo's, then Bob's or Justin's.

Then all someone has to do is tally that with the donations Jimmy makes to the MWF over the next three years.

It is called a "loss leader" in business. Not charity.

Posted by: thekohser

According to Wikipedia:
"The name 'Maurice Lacroix' does not refer to an actual person, but was invented for marketing purposes."

According to Jimmy Wales:
"I regard it as a pseudonym and I don't really have a problem with it."

According to Jimmy Wales:
"If you try to pretend to be something you aren't, that shows through."

evilgrin.gif

Posted by: GlassBeadGame

QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 28th January 2010, 10:06am) *

According to Wikipedia:
"The name 'Maurice Lacroix' does not refer to an actual person, but was invented for marketing purposes."

According to Jimmy Wales:
"I regard it as a pseudonym and I don't really have a problem with it."

According to Jimmy Wales:
"If you try to pretend to be something you aren't, that shows through."

evilgrin.gif


He's shilling for a watch company that uses a pseudonym? Maybe this is appropriate.

Greg could line up something with a manufacturer of socks.

Posted by: Achromatic

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Hi, Jimbo...Sorry to interject, but I think what he meant by "weren't actually being dishonest" was "at the time, that was the truth". Or at least that's how I took it when I first read it. Either way, life goes on :-) ...have a nice day! Ks0stm If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. 19:56, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

It is pretty clear what he meant. He was wrong, rude and insulting.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 20:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


Jimbo, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJimbo_Wales&action=historysubmit&diff=340396933&oldid=340389783, shows us all that WP:AGF is really for the plebs, not for the annointed...

Posted by: thekohser

If I did an endorsement campaign where I was paid $15,000, and I then turn around and donate that to ProCon.org and/or other tax-deductible charities, that's still a net advantage to me financially of about $5,000 come April 15th, is it not?

Jimbo's taking the high-and-mighty route with his story, but I guess the tax break is lost on most Wikipediots who have not ever filed a Form 1040 with attached Schedule A.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 28th January 2010, 7:25pm) *

If I did an endorsement campaign where I was paid $15,000, and I then turn around and donate that to ProCon.org and/or other tax-deductible charities, that's still a net advantage to me financially of about $5,000 come April 15th, is it not?

Jimbo's taking the high-and-mighty route with his story, but I guess the tax break is lost on most Wikipediots who have not ever filed a Form 1040 with attached Schedule A.

It's not a write-off if Jimbo donates all proceeds exactly. In that case they are deducted from his income and it is as though they never existed for him, taxwise. He pays the same tax he would have if he'd never heard of these people.

If you were paid some sum and you donated the whole thing, I fail to see how it would have affected your taxes, either. happy.gif No doubt Anthony will have some words of wisdom on this.

Posted by: Cock-up-over-conspiracy

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Fri 29th January 2010, 3:00am) *
It's not a write-off if Jimbo donates all proceeds exactly.


The problem is, there are contradictory statements flying around in amongst all the huffing, puffing, chest swelling and butt licking ...

On one hand the Maurice Lacroix is said to have paid ALL the money directly to the Foundation.

We do not know that. On past record, we cannot believe that without evidence. As it is likely to be an ongoing "ambassadorial" contract over a number of years, with spins off and unaccountable or personal values (... free watches, golf open tickets, flight and hotels to Switzerland, dinner with St Bob and the CEO etc ... who knows), what are the specifics?

OK, he wrote it was paid directly to the Foundation, therefore it will appear in their accounts.

So why all the huffing and puffing about "personal finances and personal giving"? Trading off the reputation is an important issue.

Probably most people just think, "gosh, I wish it was me" or "gosh, I will be more special if I can just be close to him". If it, or parts of it do go through his personal finances, it will impact on his tax paying.

Are the people who see the adverts in the Polo mags and business class inflight magazines going to believe the BS?

Posted by: carbuncle

QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Fri 29th January 2010, 5:23am) *

The problem is, there are contradictory statements flying around in amongst all the huffing, puffing, chest swelling and butt licking ...

On one hand the Maurice Lacroix is said to have paid ALL the money directly to the Foundation.

We do not know that. On past record, we cannot believe that without evidence. As it is likely to be an ongoing "ambassadorial" contract over a number of years, with spins off and unaccountable or personal values (... free watches, golf open tickets, flight and hotels to Switzerland, dinner with St Bob and the CEO etc ... who knows), what are the specifics?

OK, he wrote it was paid directly to the Foundation, therefore it will appear in their accounts.

Jimbo did not say that all the money was paid to the WMF. He said that the largest recipient was the WMF, which means that there were other, lesser recipients.
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All of the money associated with this deal is allocated to my charitable giving, which I consider a private matter and none of your business. The largest recipient, as always, is the Wikimedia Foundation. The details of the entire thing were cleared with the Foundation, and Maurice LaCroix very cheerfully at my request donated to the Foundation directly to induce me to agree to this.

The only way this makes sense is that Maurice LaCroix donated a portion of Jimbo's fee directly to the WMF as a donation. It is unclear if the rest went directly to Jimbo for him to distribute or was also donated directly by Maurice LaCroix.

No disrespect intended to Jimbo, but in that little movie he comes off, as usual, as slightly nervous and uncomfortable. I doubt he will be a very successful pitchman for Maurice LaCroix.

Posted by: GlassBeadGame

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Fri 29th January 2010, 8:31am) *

QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Fri 29th January 2010, 5:23am) *

The problem is, there are contradictory statements flying around in amongst all the huffing, puffing, chest swelling and butt licking ...

On one hand the Maurice Lacroix is said to have paid ALL the money directly to the Foundation.

We do not know that. On past record, we cannot believe that without evidence. As it is likely to be an ongoing "ambassadorial" contract over a number of years, with spins off and unaccountable or personal values (... free watches, golf open tickets, flight and hotels to Switzerland, dinner with St Bob and the CEO etc ... who knows), what are the specifics?

OK, he wrote it was paid directly to the Foundation, therefore it will appear in their accounts.

Jimbo did not say that all the money was paid to the WMF. He said that the largest recipient was the WMF, which means that there were other, lesser recipients.
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All of the money associated with this deal is allocated to my charitable giving, which I consider a private matter and none of your business. The largest recipient, as always, is the Wikimedia Foundation. The details of the entire thing were cleared with the Foundation, and Maurice LaCroix very cheerfully at my request donated to the Foundation directly to induce me to agree to this.

The only way this makes sense is that Maurice LaCroix donated a portion of Jimbo's fee directly to the WMF as a donation. It is unclear if the rest went directly to Jimbo for him to distribute or was also donated directly by Maurice LaCroix.

No disrespect intended to Jimbo, but in that little movie he comes off, as usual, as slightly nervous and uncomfortable. I doubt he will be a very successful pitchman for Maurice LaCroix.


The slightly nervous and uncomfortable are an important demographic. As a group they need to be watched more than most.

Posted by: Lar

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 29th January 2010, 9:06am) *

The slightly nervous and uncomfortable are an important demographic. As a group they need to be watched more than most.

I forgot one of your favorite pastimes was making puns. Well played. You're second to none in our hearts on that score.

Posted by: thekohser

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 28th January 2010, 10:00pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 28th January 2010, 7:25pm) *

If I did an endorsement campaign where I was paid $15,000, and I then turn around and donate that to ProCon.org and/or other tax-deductible charities, that's still a net advantage to me financially of about $5,000 come April 15th, is it not?

Jimbo's taking the high-and-mighty route with his story, but I guess the tax break is lost on most Wikipediots who have not ever filed a Form 1040 with attached Schedule A.

It's not a write-off if Jimbo donates all proceeds exactly. In that case they are deducted from his income and it is as though they never existed for him, taxwise. He pays the same tax he would have if he'd never heard of these people.

If you were paid some sum and you donated the whole thing, I fail to see how it would have affected your taxes, either. happy.gif No doubt Anthony will have some words of wisdom on this.


Ouch. I probably did goof on that one. Yes, the endorsement income would have to be declared as income, then the donation would just offset that. My bad. Maybe Lar slipped something in my Yards.

Posted by: Cock-up-over-conspiracy

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Fri 29th January 2010, 1:31pm) *
No disrespect intended to Jimbo, but in that little movie he comes off, as usual, as slightly nervous and uncomfortable. I doubt he will be a very successful pitchman for Maurice LaCroix.


He should spend some of that dosh on a voice coach helping him lower his voice a little. I agree. Nervous and twitchy ... but then perhaps he is "the voice of a generation".

He is obviously well advised financially. "Reasonable" can be very reasonable indeed. I find the blur between what is Pee-dia's and what James's endlessly interesting. Cannot the man get a proper job by now?

He should be able to be utterly transparent. He should set new standards in transparency. He knows he will get nailed if he is not. Too many barracudas with teeth sharpened for having their time wasted on the website ... the ones that survive the blast fishing or drag net approach of most admins. It is Social Darwinianism as it rawest.

Jimmy certainly lacks the moral stature and societal respect of the old time philanthropists. He is more an 'in the entertainment industry' type. Adult and child entertainment industries.

For me the Wikipedia will always be Jimmy Wales's face and RichieX's cum shot animation.
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Nonprofit corporations must not distribute profits to members, officers, or directors. A nonprofit corporation cannot be organized to financially benefit its members, officers, or directors. However, reasonable salaries and expense reimbursements are permitted.


Nonprofit corporations must pay taxes on income from "unrelated activities." Sometimes, a nonprofit organization will earn income through activities that aren't directly related to its nonprofit purpose; for example, commercial leasing of tenant space. The IRS requires nonprofits to pay corporate income taxes on such unrelated income over $1,000, whether or not the group uses that money to fund its tax-exempt activities.


Nonprofit corporations cannot make substantial profits from unrelated activities. If a nonprofit spends too much time on unrelated activities, or if the unrelated activities generate "substantial" income, the group's nonprofit status may be jeopardized.

Posted by: Lar

QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 29th January 2010, 9:24am) *

Maybe Lar slipped something in my Yards.

It was your daughter(1), not me. I just slipped it to her.


1 - who is quite charming. Bit of an attention seeker though.(2)
2 - I have NO IDEA where she gets THAT from.


Posted by: Abd

QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 28th January 2010, 9:25pm) *
If I did an endorsement campaign where I was paid $15,000, and I then turn around and donate that to ProCon.org and/or other tax-deductible charities, that's still a net advantage to me financially of about $5,000 come April 15th, is it not?

Jimbo's taking the high-and-mighty route with his story, but I guess the tax break is lost on most Wikipediots who have not ever filed a Form 1040 with attached Schedule A.
Uh, the non-existence of the tax break is lost on those who haven't reviewed the regulations or even thought about what makes sense.

The common sense approach: Okay, you have income of $15,000, but you donate it all. If the donation is *entirely* deductible, then it's a wash.

But it may not be entirely deductible, in which case you end up losing money. Depends on Jimbo's tax bracket and other factors. There is also the Alternative Minimum Tax which can trip people up, and hosts of niggling rules. Bottom line, you don't make money by receiving a payment for an endorsement and giving it all to a charity, and you might lose money. Better to arrange for the payment to be made directly to the charity; it's deductible completely for company paying, and there would be no tax implications for you.

So if you *do* receive it and want to give it "all" away, then give the after-tax benefit, such that you end up even. But this is all a tempest in a teapot.


Posted by: A Horse With No Name

Ultimately, who want to buy a watch just because Jimmy Wales endorses it? Do women and gay men find him sexy? Do straight men find him a guy to admire? To lesbians care? Do you realize that if an octopus had 12 tentacles, Roger Moore would have been in the movie "Dodecapussy"? blink.gif

Posted by: thekohser

Breaking news, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=next&oldid=425492070...

Half of the 30 silver pieces wristwatch endorsement money was delivered to the Wikimedia Foundation, while Jimbo donated the other half to his gal-pal's failed failing non-profit http://civilination.org/ project-to-nowhere, http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/civilination.org# among the 4.6 million most-popular websites!

Posted by: EricBarbour

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I haven't yet started a campaign to have the first line of my Wikipedia entry changed to read "Jimmy Wales is a fashion model also known for..." Ha ha.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 14:13, 23 April 2011 (UTC)


<<< yecch.gif

Posted by: thekohser

http://www.wikipediareview.com/images/1/18/Quality_control_at_Maurice_Lacroix.jpg is one of the hallmark attributes of Maurice Lacroix.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sat 23rd April 2011, 7:29pm) *

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I haven't yet started a campaign to have the first line of my Wikipedia entry changed to read "Jimmy Wales is a fashion model also known for..." Ha ha.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 14:13, 23 April 2011 (UTC)


<<< yecch.gif

A fashion model noted for so-far failing to realize that he can read the exact time, updated by the cell network, from his cell phone. No watch required. Any watch not as accurate. Though I do admit myself to wearing a cheap Casio with a comfortable velcro sports band added, for the occasional situation where I'm not likely to have a hand free.

Jimbo, if you're going to wear a piece of heavy and uncomfortable mechanical jewelry on your wrist, why don't you have it rigged to read out something that is actually unique, useful, and personally-specific for you? Like, say, your girlfriend's fertility cycle? wink.gif