FORUM WARNING [2] Division by zero (Line: 2933 of /srcsgcaop/boardclass.php)
FORUM WARNING [2] Division by zero (Line: 2943 of /srcsgcaop/boardclass.php)
Associated Press discovers Carolyn Doran -
     
 
The Wikipedia Review: A forum for discussion and criticism of Wikipedia
Wikipedia Review Op-Ed Pages

Welcome, Guest! ( Log In | Register )

 
 Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Associated Press discovers Carolyn Doran
thekohser
post
Post #21


Member
*********

Group: Regulars
Posts: 10,274
Joined:
Member No.: 911
It's later than I had promised, but it's finally here.

Felon became COO of Wikipedia foundation

by BRIAN BERGSTEIN, of the Associated Press



I wonder how those "The Register is just a tabloid. This is a non-event." people on Wikien-l mailing list will still be singing that tune, as this story gets picked up by (I predict) 200+ mainstream media newspapers.

Greg
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
cyofee
post
Post #22


Senior Member
****

Group: Regulars
Posts: 329
Joined:
Member No.: 2,233
Woot.


Submit it to Slashdot, that's the only thing that's left to do now.

Besides sitting back and watching the show, that is.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
thekohser
post
Post #23


Member
*********

Group: Regulars
Posts: 10,274
Joined:
Member No.: 911
Oh, dear. We're 30 minutes since this hit the wire, and already 37 publications have re-printed it on their websites.

Should we add to the BADSITES list, the following?
  • San Diego Union Tribune
  • CBS-4 Denver
  • Brisbane Times, Australia
  • Sydney Morning Herald, Australia
  • Houston Chronicle
  • Miami Herald
  • The News & Observer (Raleigh-Durham, NC)
  • Denver Post
  • Newsday (New York)
  • Orlando Sentinel
  • Forbes
  • International Herald Tribune (France)
  • Minneapolis Star Tribune

Oh dear, oh dear. This doesn't look like a "non-story" any more, does it?

Greg
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Moulton
post
Post #24


Anthropologist from Mars
*********

Group: Contributors
Posts: 10,222
Joined:
From: Greater Boston
Member No.: 3,670
Watch for other skeletons to come tumbling out the closet, too.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Rootology
post
Post #25


Fat Cat
******

Group: Regulars
Posts: 1,489
Joined:
Member No.: 877
Hole in one. Ouch.

(IMG:http://cns2.uni.edu/~wallingf/blog-images/people/tiger-woods.jpg)

How long until people begin attacking "BRIAN BERGSTEIN, AP Technology Writer"?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
GlassBeadGame
post
Post #26


Dharma Bum
*********

Group: Contributors
Posts: 7,919
Joined:
From: My name it means nothing. My age it means less. The country I come from is called the Mid-West.
Member No.: 981
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 21st December 2007, 1:57pm) *

It's later than I had promised, but it's finally here.

Felon became COO of Wikipedia foundation

by BRIAN BERGSTEIN, of the Associated Press



I wonder how those "The Register is just a tabloid. This is a non-event." people on Wikien-l mailing list will still be singing that tune, as this story gets picked up by (I predict) 200+ mainstream media newspapers.

Greg


Oh my. That mug shot bears more than a passing resemblance to Nick Nolte.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Piperdown
post
Post #27


Fat Cat
******

Group: Regulars
Posts: 1,613
Joined:
Member No.: 2,995
oh my....to further inflame the cia thing, she didn't just marry for a few days a CIA man, her daddy was CIA. jeez, brandt is going to have a field day with that ;-)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Moulton
post
Post #28


Anthropologist from Mars
*********

Group: Contributors
Posts: 10,222
Joined:
From: Greater Boston
Member No.: 3,670
And her husband died of drowning. (Not surf-boarding or water-boarding.)

Now Wikimedia is drowning in bad publicity. (Not chat-boarding.)

This post has been edited by Moulton:
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Rootology
post
Post #29


Fat Cat
******

Group: Regulars
Posts: 1,489
Joined:
Member No.: 877
Who will be the first to post this on wikien-l or foundation-l, I wonder.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Piperdown
post
Post #30


Fat Cat
******

Group: Regulars
Posts: 1,613
Joined:
Member No.: 2,995
QUOTE(Rootology @ Fri 21st December 2007, 7:34pm) *

Who will be the first to post this on wikien-l or foundation-l, I wonder.


wales's official teenage-mindset opinion is that he "doesn't talk to the Register".
I wonder how that translates to the Associated Press.

Maybe he should get gerard to send over a UK-flavoured "Fukoffffff !!" [said with 2 fingers up, slurred, after a few pints] to the AP.

this is worse than the essjay scandal, in that WP has no idea how to handle PR dirtsturms
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Rootology
post
Post #31


Fat Cat
******

Group: Regulars
Posts: 1,489
Joined:
Member No.: 877
QUOTE(Piperdown @ Fri 21st December 2007, 11:40am) *

this is worse than the essjay scandal, in that WP has no idea how to handle PR dirtsturms


I think I'll give you the understatement of the day award. The bigger problem is that when something bad happens with WP, there is NO contrition. Half the time they (WP, Jimmy et al) simply attack whomever isn't them. It's childish. Jimmy Wales is a poor manager.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jorge
post
Post #32


Postmaster
*******

Group: On Vacation
Posts: 1,910
Joined:
Member No.: 29
http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb01?_BOTHWELL_JAMES_L
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Rootology
post
Post #33


Fat Cat
******

Group: Regulars
Posts: 1,489
Joined:
Member No.: 877
Submitted to Slashdot. Anyone Digg it yet?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
thekohser
post
Post #34


Member
*********

Group: Regulars
Posts: 10,274
Joined:
Member No.: 911
It's been about an hour, and we're up to 61 re-prints in various mainstream media.

I wonder why these esteemed journalistic publications and TV stations would be so quick to re-print something that is clearly a "tempest in a teapot" and really a "non-story"?

Too funny. Although, I do fear for Brian Bergstein's Wikipedia article now.

Greg
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Moulton
post
Post #35


Anthropologist from Mars
*********

Group: Contributors
Posts: 10,222
Joined:
From: Greater Boston
Member No.: 3,670
QUOTE(Rootology @ Fri 21st December 2007, 2:34pm) *
Who will be the first to post this on wikien-l or foundation-l, I wonder.

Especially in the wake of this recent post from Jimbo...

QUOTE(Jimbo Wales on foundation-l @ Dec 21, 2007, 8:02 AM)
I am unsure what we should do about foundation-l. It has become a sewer. It is difficult to balance our very strong desire for an unmoderated forum where people can feel comfortable making strong criticisms (nothing wrong with that!) with a forum where trolls are exhausting a lot of good people and spreading misinformation due to the inability of others to keep up with the sheer volume of malice.

--Jimbo
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Piperdown
post
Post #36


Fat Cat
******

Group: Regulars
Posts: 1,613
Joined:
Member No.: 2,995
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 21st December 2007, 7:56pm) *

It's been about an hour, and we're up to 61 re-prints in various mainstream media.

I wonder why these esteemed journalistic publications and TV stations would be so quick to re-print something that is clearly a "tempest in a teapot" and really a "non-story"?

Too funny. Although, I do fear for Brian Bergstein's Wikipedia article now.

Greg


mantanmoreland can't be happy. a fellow Northwestern journalism grad diggs hard at WP.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
thekohser
post
Post #37


Member
*********

Group: Regulars
Posts: 10,274
Joined:
Member No.: 911
QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 21st December 2007, 2:58pm) *

QUOTE(Rootology @ Fri 21st December 2007, 2:34pm) *
Who will be the first to post this on wikien-l or foundation-l, I wonder.

Especially in the wake of this recent post from Jimbo...

QUOTE(Jimbo Wales on foundation-l @ Dec 21, 2007, 8:02 AM)
I am unsure what we should do about foundation-l. It has become a sewer. It is difficult to balance our very strong desire for an unmoderated forum where people can feel comfortable making strong criticisms (nothing wrong with that!) with a forum where trolls are exhausting a lot of good people and spreading misinformation due to the inability of others to keep up with the sheer volume of malice.

--Jimbo



Ermm, Jimbo... I'd say that it's merely a forum where critics are getting exhausted due to their inability to keep up with the sheer volume of your idiotic management decisions and lack of any sign of contrition after you make them.

I have to say, Bergstein really did nail the lead sentence:

QUOTE
The foundation that runs — and accepts donations for — the online encyclopedia Wikipedia neglected to do a basic background check before hiring a chief operating officer who had been convicted of theft, drunken driving and fleeing a car accident.


From the get-go, he casts doubt for all of the people who have ever contributed money to this corrupt monarchy that keeps feeding them the lie to just "trust us, trust us, trust us".

Greg

P.S. For how much longer will this protection be the status quo?

This post has been edited by thekohser:
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Rootology
post
Post #38


Fat Cat
******

Group: Regulars
Posts: 1,489
Joined:
Member No.: 877
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 21st December 2007, 12:11pm) *

From the get-go, he casts doubt for all of the people who have ever contributed money to this corrupt monarchy that keeps feeding them the lie to just "trust us, trust us, trust us".


How long until Jimmy or Godwin is on the phone bitching to the AP? How long until secret emails about harassment float around, with all fingers pointing here? Because, y'know, WR put the gun in Doran's hand and said "Go free, be a fugitive."

QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 21st December 2007, 12:11pm) *

P.S. For how much longer will this protection be the status quo?


They'll try to call out BLP1E. Except, er, she's shot people, had famous family, been arrested, been COO of a major organization... they're screwed. She's fully notable.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
The Joy
post
Post #39


I am a millipede! I am amazing!
********

Group: Members
Posts: 3,839
Joined:
From: The Moon
Member No.: 982
Hello.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=4039600

On a major news network site now! I wonder when CNN, FOX, and BBC News will pick this up?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
thekohser
post
Post #40


Member
*********

Group: Regulars
Posts: 10,274
Joined:
Member No.: 911
QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 21st December 2007, 3:36pm) *

Hello.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=4039600

On a major news network site now! I wonder when CNN, FOX, and BBC News will pick this up?


Fox already did, at least the text report.

This post has been edited by thekohser:
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 

Reply to this topicStart new topic
2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

-   Lo-Fi Version Time is now:
 
     
FORUM WARNING [2] Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home2/wikipede/public_html/int042kj398.php:242) (Line: 0 of Unknown)