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BLPs of Scientologists need protection from neutral or positive information, This is simply hilarious ... Cirt takes on Jimbo |
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 6th July 2010, 3:03pm) QUOTE What I did imply, and stand by, is that it is incredibly pointy of you to ask for a source for the fact that Rain Man was a hit film. -- Jimbo Nice. I seems that a number of cabal agendas are out of sync here, causing turbulence. There is also a related discussion on Jimbo's talk page. Perhaps this goes back to an earlier RfC at List of Scientologists (T-H-L-K-D) that Jimbo got involved in, disagreeing with Cirt's view that everyone who had ever done a Scientology course in their lives should be listed as a member of Scientology. There was a discussion about that on Jimbo's talk page too.
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Mods, please delete my thread here, started without knowing that this thread had already begun. I will repeat my concern here in this thread. +++++ Jimbo's been active lately on the biographies of two living celebrities, Michael D. Roberts and Marissa Ribisi. Jimbo seems fixated on using IMDB as a reliable source for information about these two. Note that IMDB is owned by Amazon, and that Amazon invested $10 million in Jimmy Wales' Wikia, Inc. venture. So, in itself, Jimmy Wales using IMDB links to spruce up Wikipedia biographies is a fairly significant conflict of interest. However, when you add that Roberts and Ribisi are both Scientologists... what does that say?
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 6th July 2010, 7:11am) Ha. Jimbo isn't aware of the degree to which sourcing is used as a weapon in Wikipedia.
Of course not. And that is why he's outraged and thinks it's POINT-y to try to teach him, his royal God-Kingness, about this problem, by direct experience. Indeed, Wikipedia isn't much fun when your opponents slap {fact} tags on statements such as the Sun comes up in the east. Illustrated here (also) is the whole purpose of WP:POINT, which is to allow hypocrisy to exist on WP, without being bothered by concepts of fairness, due process, and the general idea of any kind of shared principles or rules of editing, which apply to everyone equally. Since Jimbo lives and breathes hypocrisy, WP:POINT is very important to him. Why, imagine the idea that he should have to live and abide by the standards that other people on WP do! The very idea! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) Hey, Jimbo: If the fact that Rain Man was a hit is TRUE, it should be EASY to find a source for it. The more everybody knows it, the easier it should be! A great and wise man once said as much. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/happy.gif)
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QUOTE(Jagärdu @ Tue 6th July 2010, 8:53am) There is an amusing recent exchange here between Cirt and Jimbo on the BLP/N. Apparently Cirt has been going around removing neutral or positive (but completely uncontroversial) information about actors who are Scientologists or the "hit" films they have been in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bio...les_on_BLPs_.3FOn Chick Corea, Cirt removed loads of musical information that lacked inline citations, but left in completely unsourced material related to Scientology. I fixed it.
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QUOTE(Mike R @ Wed 7th July 2010, 4:26pm) On Chick Corea, Cirt removed loads of musical information that lacked inline citations, but left in completely unsourced material related to Scientology. I fixed it. Nice job. I wonder how long until Cirt objects. Clearly the most notable aspect of anyone's life is their involvement with Scientology.
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QUOTE(Mike R @ Wed 7th July 2010, 4:26pm) On Chick Corea, Cirt removed loads of musical information that lacked inline citations, but left in completely unsourced material related to Scientology. I fixed it. And here's your reply.
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QUOTE On Chick Corea, Cirt removed loads of musical information that lacked inline citations, but left in completely unsourced material related to Scientology. I fixed it. QUOTE And here's your reply. Disgusting. This post has been edited by chrisoff:
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 8th July 2010, 5:36pm) QUOTE(Jagärdu @ Thu 8th July 2010, 1:03pm) QUOTE(Mike R @ Wed 7th July 2010, 4:26pm) On Chick Corea, Cirt removed loads of musical information that lacked inline citations, but left in completely unsourced material related to Scientology. I fixed it. And here's your reply. "Imbecilic" is too kind a word. Please don't tell me you guys are surprised by any of this. Not only has Cirt been doing this shit since 2007, nobody seems to say "boo" about it on-wiki.
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 9th July 2010, 9:49am) QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 8th July 2010, 5:36pm) QUOTE(Jagärdu @ Thu 8th July 2010, 1:03pm) QUOTE(Mike R @ Wed 7th July 2010, 4:26pm) On Chick Corea, Cirt removed loads of musical information that lacked inline citations, but left in completely unsourced material related to Scientology. I fixed it. And here's your reply. "Imbecilic" is too kind a word. Please don't tell me you guys are surprised by any of this. Not only has Cirt been doing this shit since 2007, nobody seems to say "boo" about it on-wiki. You clearly missed WP:ARBSCI. It was triggered by two arbitration enforcement threads, one of which was about Cirt's editing. Justallofthem, Wikipedia's local Scientologist who had started that thread, was indef banned as a result of that arbitration case, in part for "pursuing a campaign against Cirt". This post has been edited by HRIP7:
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QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Fri 9th July 2010, 9:50am) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 9th July 2010, 9:49am) Not only has Cirt been doing this shit since 2007, nobody seems to say "boo" about it on-wiki. You clearly missed WP:ARBSCI. It was triggered by two arbitration enforcement threads, one of which was about Cirt's editing. Justallofthem, Wikipedia's local Scientologist who had started that thread, was indef banned as a result of that arbitration case, in part for "pursuing a campaign against Cirt". Yes, I know. The point is: if Cirt can get away with being a total dickhead, someone is protecting him.Said "protection" has been so effective to date, it a) got an Arbcom complaint against him twisted until the original complainant was banned instead, and b) now Cirt can attack Jimbo Himself with apparent impunity. QUOTE Cirt
12) From careful examination of the submitted evidence, the committee concludes that, since his request for adminship in September 2008, Cirt (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · moves · rights) does not appear to have deliberately misused administrative tools.
Passed 10 to 0 (with 1 abstention) at 13:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC) We know that Cirt was carefully shepherded by Durova and friendly with Gerard, both disgruntled with Scientology. Don't you wonder if there's someone else in the Non-Existent Cabal who is covering Cirt's slimy little ass? This post has been edited by EricBarbour:
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 9th July 2010, 8:27pm) QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Fri 9th July 2010, 9:50am) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 9th July 2010, 9:49am) Not only has Cirt been doing this shit since 2007, nobody seems to say "boo" about it on-wiki. You clearly missed WP:ARBSCI. It was triggered by two arbitration enforcement threads, one of which was about Cirt's editing. Justallofthem, Wikipedia's local Scientologist who had started that thread, was indef banned as a result of that arbitration case, in part for "pursuing a campaign against Cirt". Yes, I know. The point is: if Cirt can get away with being a total dickhead, someone is protecting him.Said "protection" has been so effective to date, it a) got an Arbcom complaint against him twisted until the original complainant was banned instead, and b) now Cirt can attack Jimbo Himself with apparent impunity. QUOTE Cirt
12) From careful examination of the submitted evidence, the committee concludes that, since his request for adminship in September 2008, Cirt (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · moves · rights) does not appear to have deliberately misused administrative tools.
Passed 10 to 0 (with 1 abstention) at 13:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC) We know that Cirt was carefully shepherded by Durova and friendly with Gerard, both disgruntled with Scientology. Don't you wonder if there's someone else in the Non-Existent Cabal who is covering Cirt's slimy little ass? I commented in that thread in Wikipedia without being aware of the background. I wasn't aware that Cirt was focusing on the bios of Scientologists. I'll go ask him about it if no one else has already.
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