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Gary_Niger
post Mon 1st August 2011, 5:31am
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[Y]our WP Username entry doesn't even point to an actual Wikipedia account.

Au contraire.

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post Mon 1st August 2011, 5:44am
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Sorry, I meant "Wikipedia account with more than zero edits at time of registration." But at least you're not trying to impersonate anybody... We try to be flexible about most things, but it's generally better if folks don't use "dummy" WP accounts in their WR profiles. It's not really necessary, and it might confuse people.

Anyway, you seem nice enough and all, and I'm not trying to provoke you or anything like that. I hope you can understand our position - it's difficult to strike a balance between serious criticism and observing the sorts of things WPers actually do, so when things happen that tip the balance one way or the other, it can be a little stressful.

I realize that probably didn't make much sense... unsure.gif
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post Mon 1st August 2011, 5:48am
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Sorry, I meant "Wikipedia account with more than zero edits at time of registration." But at least you're not trying to impersonate anybody... We try to be flexible about most things, but it's generally better if folks don't use "dummy" WP accounts in their WR profiles. It's not really necessary, and it might confuse people.


I disagree with Wikipedia's use of CC-BY-SA/GFDL to license edits. I also do not feel that editing Wikipedia is a good use of my time.

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post Mon 1st August 2011, 6:02am
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Anyway, you seem nice enough and all, and I'm not trying to provoke you or anything like that. I hope you can understand our position - it's difficult to strike a balance between serious criticism and observing the sorts of things WPers actually do, so when things happen that tip the balance one way or the other, it can be a little stressful.


I feel as though the positions that GNAA and WR take towards Wikipedia are very similar. GNAA believes that, as the world's "largest" "encyclopedia", Wikipedia must be held accountable when it breaks its own rules. We can't just have the world's largest compendium of knowledge run by a group of kids who treat it as their own personal playground now, can we?

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Sorry, I meant "Wikipedia account with more than zero edits at time of registration." But at least you're not trying to impersonate anybody... We try to be flexible about most things, but it's generally better if folks don't use "dummy" WP accounts in their WR profiles. It's not really necessary, and it might confuse people.

Anyway, you seem nice enough and all, and I'm not trying to provoke you or anything like that. I hope you can understand our position - it's difficult to strike a balance between serious criticism and observing the sorts of things WPers actually do, so when things happen that tip the balance one way or the other, it can be a little stressful.

I realize that probably didn't make much sense... unsure.gif

Stop poking him. If he's a mighty hacker, ask him to do something useful.
Log into adler and erase the root passwords, that kind of thing.
Or not, I don't even care anymore. dry.gif
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post Mon 1st August 2011, 8:36am
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If he's a mighty hacker, ask him to do something useful.

Can he rearrange the overhead drain-pipes in my basement?
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post Mon 1st August 2011, 1:15pm
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QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 1st August 2011, 1:29am) *
Anyway, your WP Username entry doesn't even point to an actual Wikipedia account.


Have you looked at your own account info lately?

A shame you have never shown this level of diligence when it comes to policing WR's Official Mascot, Mr. "Victim of Censorship", btw.


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post Mon 1st August 2011, 6:07pm
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sun 31st July 2011, 10:44pm) *
Sorry, I meant "Wikipedia account with more than zero edits at time of registration." But at least you're not trying to impersonate anybody... We try to be flexible about most things, but it's generally better if folks don't use "dummy" WP accounts in their WR profiles. It's not really necessary, and it might confuse people.

Anyway, you seem nice enough and all, and I'm not trying to provoke you or anything like that. I hope you can understand our position - it's difficult to strike a balance between serious criticism and observing the sorts of things WPers actually do, so when things happen that tip the balance one way or the other, it can be a little stressful.

I realize that probably didn't make much sense... unsure.gif

Stop poking him. If he's a mighty hacker, ask him to do something useful.
Log into adler and erase the root passwords, that kind of thing.
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When did I present myself as a "mighty hacker"?
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post Mon 1st August 2011, 6:22pm
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QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 1st August 2011, 1:44am) *

QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Mon 1st August 2011, 12:31am) *

Sorry, I meant "Wikipedia account with more than zero edits at time of registration." But at least you're not trying to impersonate anybody... We try to be flexible about most things, but it's generally better if folks don't use "dummy" WP accounts in their WR profiles. It's not really necessary, and it might confuse people.


I disagree with Wikipedia's use of CC-BY-SA/GFDL to license edits. I also do not feel that editing Wikipedia is a good use of my time.

But Twitter is? You are pretending HERE to be The_Black_Guy THERE, are you not? The Token Niger, as it were?

Are you sure you're not this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...ions/Gary-Niger
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post Mon 1st August 2011, 6:30pm
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 1st August 2011, 2:22pm) *

QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Sun 31st July 2011, 10:48pm) *

QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 1st August 2011, 1:44am) *

QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Mon 1st August 2011, 12:31am) *

Sorry, I meant "Wikipedia account with more than zero edits at time of registration." But at least you're not trying to impersonate anybody... We try to be flexible about most things, but it's generally better if folks don't use "dummy" WP accounts in their WR profiles. It's not really necessary, and it might confuse people.


I disagree with Wikipedia's use of CC-BY-SA/GFDL to license edits. I also do not feel that editing Wikipedia is a good use of my time.

But Twitter is? You are pretending HERE to be The_Black_Guy THERE, are you not? The Token Niger, as it were?

This is my Twitter.
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post Mon 1st August 2011, 6:55pm
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QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Mon 1st August 2011, 11:30am) *

But Twitter is? You are pretending HERE to be The_Black_Guy THERE, are you not? The Token Niger, as it were?
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This is my Twitter.

A sell-described "twitter for gay niggers." Okay, it takes all kinds of folks to make a world, I suppose.

You didn't answer my question if the other Gary-Niger on WP is you: Gary-Niger (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

You're probably right that WP is not a good use of your time. But if you're not interested in WP, then posting on WR (here) is an even less productive use of your time. Not saying you're unwelcome. Just an observation.

Welcome. The avatar photo makes you look like Hermes Conrad.
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post Mon 1st August 2011, 6:57pm
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 1st August 2011, 2:55pm) *

QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Mon 1st August 2011, 11:30am) *

But Twitter is? You are pretending HERE to be The_Black_Guy THERE, are you not? The Token Niger, as it were?
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This is my Twitter.

A sell-described twitter for gay niggers. Okay, it takes all kinds of folks to make a world, I suppose.

You didn't answer my question if the other Gary-Niger on WP is you: Gary-Niger (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

You're probably right that WP is not a productive use of your time. But if you're not interested in WP, then posting on WR (here) is an even less productive use of your time. Not saying you're unwelcome. Just an observation.

Welcome.

I said that editing Wikipedia wasn't a productive use of my time.
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post Mon 1st August 2011, 7:09pm
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I said that editing Wikipedia wasn't a productive use of my time.

And why not? Anything you put there that is legitimate citable information, will certainly be read by far more people than read your twitters.
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 1st August 2011, 8:15am) *
Have you looked at your own account info lately?

Yes...? Though to be honest, I could use a new tag-line, the one I've got has been there for well over a year now! unsure.gif

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A shame you have never shown this level of diligence when it comes to policing WR's Official Mascot, Mr. "Victim of Censorship", btw.

We've banned Mr. Victim twice already. The main reason we haven't banned him a third time is that he promised to refrain from anti-gay remarks, and for the most part he's kept that promise. (I don't believe he's ever made racist remarks here, or even anything close, unless you count anti-Obama content as inherently racist, which we do not. If we did, we'd have to ban HK too, so that's a non-starter.)

Besides, we don't have a rule against people registering without WP accounts, we just prefer than members don't try to make it look like they have a WP account when they really don't. (My member profile here has never referred to a WP account, of course, since I have never had one.)

Seriously, I was only (or maybe I should say "mainly") concerned about the avatar image. Anything else, I figure we take a wait-and-see approach.
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The avatar photo makes you look like Hermes Conrad.

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QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Mon 1st August 2011, 11:57am) *

I said that editing Wikipedia wasn't a productive use of my time.

And why not? Anything you put there that is legitimate citable information, will certainly be read by far more people than read your twitters.


I do not care about how many people "read" whatever I have to say. I am not a blogger, nor do I ever wish to be one. I would much rather cite "better" sources, merely on principal.
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Post moved here.

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QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Mon 1st August 2011, 5:52pm) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 1st August 2011, 3:09pm) *

QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Mon 1st August 2011, 11:57am) *

I said that editing Wikipedia wasn't a productive use of my time.

And why not? Anything you put there that is legitimate citable information, will certainly be read by far more people than read your twitters.


I do not care about how many people "read" whatever I have to say. I am not a blogger, nor do I ever wish to be one. I would much rather cite "better" sources, merely on principal.

Then learn to spell "principle" for this purpose.

I still wonder if you're Baxter, being clever with a reverse avatar.

Somey, is this guy using a Tor exit node, or does he really geolocate to Tarzana, CA?
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 2nd August 2011, 3:06pm) *

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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 1st August 2011, 3:09pm) *

QUOTE(Gary_Niger @ Mon 1st August 2011, 11:57am) *

I said that editing Wikipedia wasn't a productive use of my time.

And why not? Anything you put there that is legitimate citable information, will certainly be read by far more people than read your twitters.


I do not care about how many people "read" whatever I have to say. I am not a blogger, nor do I ever wish to be one. I would much rather cite "better" sources, merely on principal.

Then learn to spell "principle" for this purpose.

How would spelling "principle" help me cite better sources?

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 2nd August 2011, 3:06pm) *

I still wonder if you're Baxter, being clever with a reverse avatar.

I don't know who that is. You're going to have to fill me in before accusing me.

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Somey, is this guy using a Tor exit node, or does he really geolocate to Tarzana, CA?

lol
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