 Edit war! Berlet v. Brandt, Fun and games for the whole family |
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| Daniel Brandt |
 Mon 14th January 2008, 1:00am
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Feel free to join in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Information_Research
Anything Berlet says or does should be utterly crushed, showing no mercy. |
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| GlassBeadGame |
Mon 14th January 2008, 1:12am
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sun 13th January 2008, 8:00pm)  Feel free to join in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Information_Research Anything Berlet says or does should be utterly crushed, showing no mercy. Reference (11) may be the longest cite in all of Wikipedia. Is this some half baked argument to avoid BLP issues? "It's only a reference, not article content." The "reference" itself contains 3 links. |
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| Kato |
Mon 14th January 2008, 1:20am
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 dhd Group: Regulars Posts: 5,521 Joined: Fri 29th Dec 2006, 8:39pm Member No.: 767 |
The preposterous Berlet has been hiding behind the wide skirts of powerful but gullible admins for years, getting away with murder on Wikipedia. His raison d'etre is the "anti-semitic" smear job.
The reason for this latest assault is no doubt due to the activities today on WikiQuote http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/WQ:VP#Using_W..._for_a_vendetta and his own article. Finally hoist by his own petard, people have been adding a damning Justin Raimondo quote to his article and elsewhere, which describes Berlet for what he is, a propagandist and political hack with no scruples, who is paid to smear people. Given that Berlet has had free range from admins to smear anyone he likes on the site previously -- Quoting his own writings -- it would be hypocritical for Berlet to complain about this, wouldn't it? As for this Brandt business, perhaps he believes Brandt is involved in the Raimondo quote pushing somehow, and is fighting back. Or else he's going on one massive WP:POINT spree. Or else, he just can't help himself, which is quite likely. |
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| GlassBeadGame |
Mon 14th January 2008, 1:36am
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Dharma Bum Group: Contributors Posts: 7,919 Joined: Sat 17th Feb 2007, 12:55am From: My name it means nothing. My age it means less. The country I come from is called the Mid-West. Member No.: 981 |
The PIR article proper has 331 words. Reference (11) has 479 words. This is an obvious attempt to include improper BLP material. I haven't seen such bullshit since Jayjg's "Allegations of Apartheid" series of articles.
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| Kato |
Mon 14th January 2008, 1:46am
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dhd Group: Regulars Posts: 5,521 Joined: Fri 29th Dec 2006, 8:39pm Member No.: 767 |
Indeed.
After the WP fiascos of December, I very naively figured that WP would engage in a process of reassessment, and would feel the need to root out the blatantly obvious cases of corruption like Berlet, Jayjg and co -- if only to dampen the entertainment of the gathering movement of external critics. However, the absurdity has just continued in earnest. In fact, in light of the Seth Finkelstein biography debacle on New Years Eve, and now this, Wikipedia seems to be getting worse! I guess all of this nonsense only hastens WP's demise in the end. So there are mixed feelings all round. |
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| GlassBeadGame |
Mon 14th January 2008, 2:55am
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Dharma Bum Group: Contributors Posts: 7,919 Joined: Sat 17th Feb 2007, 12:55am From: My name it means nothing. My age it means less. The country I come from is called the Mid-West. Member No.: 981 |
Somebody (Viridae) finally showed some sense and cut back on the reference.
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| Jonny Cache |
Mon 14th January 2008, 4:40am
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 τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε Group: Contributors Posts: 5,100 Joined: Sat 9th Sep 2006, 1:52am Member No.: 398 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
Be In The Square … Or Be The SquareCan you choose wisely, GlassHoppers?
Jonny  This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Mon 14th January 2008, 4:42am |
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| Viridae |
Mon 14th January 2008, 5:05am
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 Fat Cat Group: Regulars Posts: 1,319 Joined: Sat 19th May 2007, 4:16am Member No.: 1,498 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
Was this one of you? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=184196223
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| Jonny Cache |
Mon 14th January 2008, 5:14am
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τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε Group: Contributors Posts: 5,100 Joined: Sat 9th Sep 2006, 1:52am Member No.: 398 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(Viridae @ Mon 14th January 2008, 12:05am) We don't have a "Rx StrangeLove" in our member list, but that's not to say that the corresponding person or persons could not be regged here under one or more other names. Jonny This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Mon 14th January 2008, 5:20am |
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| Viridae |
Mon 14th January 2008, 5:39am
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Fat Cat Group: Regulars Posts: 1,319 Joined: Sat 19th May 2007, 4:16am Member No.: 1,498 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
I actually meant the edit he was reverting.
This one: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=184196223 |
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| Jonny Cache |
Mon 14th January 2008, 5:44am
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τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε Group: Contributors Posts: 5,100 Joined: Sat 9th Sep 2006, 1:52am Member No.: 398 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(Viridae @ Mon 14th January 2008, 12:39am) I actually meant the edit he was reverting. This one: Public Information Research&diff=prev&oldid=184196223 And when did you develop this strange obsession with knowing the identity of the person behind the edit? We won't name your name to the Unwikipedian Activities Committee this time, but consider this your one and only warning, and don't let it happen again. Jonny This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Mon 14th January 2008, 5:44am |
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| Viridae |
Mon 14th January 2008, 5:45am
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Fat Cat Group: Regulars Posts: 1,319 Joined: Sat 19th May 2007, 4:16am Member No.: 1,498 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Mon 14th January 2008, 4:44pm) QUOTE(Viridae @ Mon 14th January 2008, 12:39am) I actually meant the edit he was reverting. This one: Public Information Research&diff=prev&oldid=184196223 And when did you develop this strange obsession with knowing the identity of the person behind the edit? We won't name your name to the Unwikipedian Activities Committe this time, but consider this your one and only warning, and don't let it happen again. Jonny More idle interest than strange obsession. |
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| Jonny Cache |
Mon 14th January 2008, 5:54am
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τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε Group: Contributors Posts: 5,100 Joined: Sat 9th Sep 2006, 1:52am Member No.: 398 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(Viridae @ Mon 14th January 2008, 12:45am) QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Mon 14th January 2008, 4:44pm) QUOTE(Viridae @ Mon 14th January 2008, 12:39am) I actually meant the edit he was reverting. This one: Public Information Research&diff=prev&oldid=184196223 And when did you develop this strange obsession with knowing the identity of the person behind the edit? We won't name your name to the Unwikipedian Activities Committee this time, but consider this your one and only warning, and don't let it happen again. Jonny More idle interest than strange obsession. QUOTE Idle Interests Are The Devil's Derivative Stocks. Jonny |
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| Robster |
Mon 14th January 2008, 12:01pm
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"Community"? Really? Group: Regulars Posts: 459 Joined: Tue 20th Mar 2007, 2:24am Member No.: 1,155 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(Viridae @ Mon 14th January 2008, 12:39am) I actually meant the edit he was reverting. This one: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=184196223 Some random WP admin thinks Unknown Justin posts here... |
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| Jonny Cache |
Mon 14th January 2008, 12:44pm
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τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε Group: Contributors Posts: 5,100 Joined: Sat 9th Sep 2006, 1:52am Member No.: 398 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(Robster @ Mon 14th January 2008, 7:01am) QUOTE(Viridae @ Mon 14th January 2008, 12:39am) I actually meant the edit he was reverting. This one: Public Information Research&diff=prev&oldid=184196223 Some random WP admin thinks Unknown Justin posts here … Yes another Entrusted Espouser Of The Espoused Values (EEOTEV) who secretly harbours the heresy that the identity of the messenger trumps the meaning of the message. Yow! If this keeps up, people will start saying that Wikipediots are Hypocrites or ∑thang! Jonny |
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| LamontStormstar |
Mon 14th January 2008, 2:16pm
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'''''This page blank for 24 hours to honor the memory of Wei Wenhua.'''''
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=184196223 Also, so http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hut_8.5 apparently somehow much have checkuser? This post has been edited by LamontStormstar: Mon 14th January 2008, 2:20pm |
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| guy |
Mon 14th January 2008, 4:09pm
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Postmaster General Group: Inactive Posts: 4,294 Joined: Mon 27th Feb 2006, 8:52pm From: London Member No.: 23 |
QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Mon 14th January 2008, 2:16pm) No, just finely honed linguistic skills. |
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| Jonny Cache |
Mon 14th January 2008, 4:20pm
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τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε Group: Contributors Posts: 5,100 Joined: Sat 9th Sep 2006, 1:52am Member No.: 398 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(guy @ Mon 14th January 2008, 11:09am) QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Mon 14th January 2008, 2:16pm) No, just finely honed linguistic skills. So finely honed are the Pinheaded Fishheads of these Mackisch Haifisch that they can no longer see the semantics for the syntax. Pragmatix? you say? Fugettaboutit !!! Jonny This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Mon 14th January 2008, 4:22pm |
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| GlassBeadGame |
Mon 14th January 2008, 5:34pm
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Dharma Bum Group: Contributors Posts: 7,919 Joined: Sat 17th Feb 2007, 12:55am From: My name it means nothing. My age it means less. The country I come from is called the Mid-West. Member No.: 981 |
At the moment it appear that the winner (and still champ) is Brandt. Reference (11) is completely gone along with the sentence with the nasty innuendo, all removed by Leatherstocking.
Now the embittered loser, Berlet, has a tantrum on the article talk page, reposting the material removed from the "reference." Next he will stomp his feet and say "I can too say bad things about Brandt. I can too." He seems to believe he is an expert on the things he makes up and others should respect this. |
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| thekohser |
Mon 14th January 2008, 5:55pm
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Member Group: Regulars Posts: 10,274 Joined: Thu 1st Feb 2007, 10:21pm Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Mon 14th January 2008, 12:34pm) At the moment it appear that the winner (and still champ) is Brandt. Reference (11) is completely gone along with the sentence with the nasty innuendo, all removed by Leatherstocking. Now the embittered loser, Berlet, has a tantrum on the article talk page, reposting the material removed from the "reference." Next he will stomp his feet and say "I can too say bad things about Brandt. I can too." He seems to believe he is an expert on the things he makes up and others should respect this. Just wait a week or two. Stubborn editors tend to have their way, eventually, in certain wiki spaces. Greg |
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