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Apparently the superintendent of a school district in the good ol' US of A leaked information about a police investigation to the person being investigated, who was their employee (or something). Bearian, who plays a lawyer on television, writes a BLP about him so that this important piece of world history gets recorded. After some discussions elsewhere it gets nominated for deletion.
This seems like a very typical and uninteresting case, but it's got Jimbo involved now (and of course the "Article Rescue Squadron" are flying in to save it). I'm making popcorn. |
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| carbuncle |
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After continued prodding on his talk page, Jimbo has decided to take action. From Talk:Eric Ely:
QUOTE ongoing national news? As far as I can tell, there has been NO national news coverage. Unless I overlooked something, all of the sources are local. The Boston sources only mention Ely in the context of Boston's search for a superintendent - clearly a local Boston story. The same for Billings. The same for Arlington. I am concerned that this misleading and false claim may have confounded some voters in the AfD - i.e. if they didn't read closely, they may have assumed a much higher level of notability than the sources indicate.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 14:28, 20 April 2010 (UTC) This article is a clear BLP violation under WP:UNDUE Due to the extreme length of what is a relatively minor controversy, this article is a clear WP:BLP violation due to WP:UNDUE. I am considering removing the entire section on the Raucci case and limiting it to a single sentence, in an effort to help this biography be closer to what it should be. Your thoughts?--Jimbo Wales (talk) 14:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC) Other editors have taken up the torch and removed some of the offending material. So ends round two. The third round should be interesting... |
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| the fieryangel |
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the Internet Review Corporation is watching you... Group: Regulars Posts: 2,990 Joined: From: It's all in your mind anyway... Member No.: 577 |
QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 20th April 2010, 7:35pm)  Other editors have taken up the torch and removed some of the offending material. So ends round two. The third round should be interesting... What I want to know is why is this so important to Bearian (T-C-L-K-R-D) ? He's obviously got an ax to grind here....and I'm wondering what his hidden motivation might be? |
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| Eva Destruction |
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Tue 20th April 2010, 8:43pm) QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 20th April 2010, 7:35pm) Other editors have taken up the torch and removed some of the offending material. So ends round two. The third round should be interesting... What I want to know is why is this so important to Bearian (T-C-L-K-R-D) ? He's obviously got an ax to grind here....and I'm wondering what his hidden motivation might be? From his userpage, he lives in upstate NY; it's probably just that he knows the guy. Or, it could just be that it's a Big Deal in the local paper there, and he's made the mistake of assuming the rest of the world gives a shit. This is the guy who recently claimed WR had "outed him", despite this thread being the first time he's even been mentioned here, FWIW. I'm not sure I'd take anything he says very seriously. |
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| A Horse With No Name |
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I have as much free time as a Wikipedia admin! Group: Regulars Posts: 4,471 Joined: Member No.: 9,985 |
QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Tue 20th April 2010, 3:52pm) This is the guy who recently claimed WR had "outed him", despite this thread being the first time he's even been mentioned here, FWIW. I'm not sure I'd take anything he says very seriously. Maybe he's confusing WR with Brandt's web site? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif) |
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 20th April 2010, 9:06pm) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Tue 20th April 2010, 3:52pm) This is the guy who recently claimed WR had "outed him", despite this thread being the first time he's even been mentioned here, FWIW. I'm not sure I'd take anything he says very seriously. Maybe he's confusing WR with Brandt's web site? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif) Given that he lists his name, workplace and hometown on his Wikipedia page, I'm not sure it's the hardest piece of detective work. |
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| A Horse With No Name |
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I have as much free time as a Wikipedia admin! Group: Regulars Posts: 4,471 Joined: Member No.: 9,985 |
QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Tue 20th April 2010, 4:11pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 20th April 2010, 9:06pm) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Tue 20th April 2010, 3:52pm) This is the guy who recently claimed WR had "outed him", despite this thread being the first time he's even been mentioned here, FWIW. I'm not sure I'd take anything he says very seriously. Maybe he's confusing WR with Brandt's web site? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif) Given that he lists his name, workplace and hometown on his Wikipedia page, I'm not sure it's the hardest piece of detective work. I wonder how graceful he is on the dance floor. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif) |
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Can't actually moderate (or even post) Group: Moderators Posts: 11,816 Joined: From: Dreamland Member No.: 275 |
QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 20th April 2010, 3:16pm) I wonder how graceful he is on the dance floor. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif) To be a good dancer, you have to be able to see your own feet, don't you? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) Anyway, for many Wikipedians, "outed" is just a handy shorthand for "mentioned in a less than 100-percent positive context." I don't remember when he was added to the Hivemind page (it's not something I keep track of), but I vaguely recall that it was later than November 2008 - that's when his name appeared on his user page for the first time. I could be wrong, though. |
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I have as much free time as a Wikipedia admin! Group: Regulars Posts: 4,471 Joined: Member No.: 9,985 |
QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 20th April 2010, 5:41pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 20th April 2010, 3:16pm) I wonder how graceful he is on the dance floor. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif) To be a good dancer, you have to be able to see your own feet, don't you? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) Oh, I was expecting a pun along the lines of "dancing Bearian" -- but fat jokes are always in season. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(taiwopanfob @ Tue 20th April 2010, 7:59pm) Bearian doesn't look like he is much amused at all by all this stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=357258160 "And I have lost faith in some of my fellow editors." Funny that he even had faith in those screwballs in the first place. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif) QUOTE(taiwopanfob @ Tue 20th April 2010, 7:59pm) But make no mistake: he and the other fellows are clearly out for Ely's ass, for whatever fucked up reason. Hmmm...not the kind of expression I would use with this guy. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) |
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the Internet Review Corporation is watching you... Group: Regulars Posts: 2,990 Joined: From: It's all in your mind anyway... Member No.: 577 |
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