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After User:Erik added a picture to Don Murphy, the following note appeared on his talk page:
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Cropping a photo does not make it a derivative work. You do not have the copyright to that photo you inserted. You can avoid personal litigation by removing it within 48 hours. The Foundation cannot avoid it. Thank you. SharkJumper 15:44, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Enjoy WP while you still can!

Never mind - Apocalypse cancelled.
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Murphy got the wrong Erik. I don't have the dox on the right Erik, but I have evidence that it is not Erik Kraft in Chicago.

Veromi.net and zabasearch.com show that Erik A. Kraft in Chicago is 33 years old. This is the same Erik Kraft suspected by Murphy, as proven by the registration on erikkraft.info, which is his domain on his résumé, the same one that is linked on Murphy's forum. One of the zabasearch.com entries for him shows that he once lived at the same address as the one listed in WHOIS for the erikkraft.info domain. That's Erik Kraft.

But the Erik that Murphy really wants once added his age and birthday on a user page in 2006. He said his birthday is December 31 and he is 20 years old. That would mean his birthdate is 1985-12-31, turning 21 at the end of 2006. Today he would be 24 years old. Moreover, that same page says that he was born in Chicago, but there isn't any evidence I've seen that he lives in Chicago.

The User:Erik that Murphy wants is nine years younger than Erik A. Kraft in Chicago.
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 24th April 2010, 11:04pm) *

Today he would be 24 years old. Moreover, that same page says that he was born in Chicago, but there isn't any evidence I've seen that he lives in Chicago.


When he made this edit

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=357881824

was when I suspect he left Illinois. I.e. now a graduate.

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The User:Erik that Murphy wants is nine years younger than Erik A. Kraft in Chicago.


No they are the same age (33). User:Erik was lying about his age, obviously.


QUOTE(BelovedFox @ Sat 24th April 2010, 11:21pm) *

Erik presumably learned that Murphy was fishing for him on his forum, as he made an open request to "find Erik" before anyone turned up anything.

I don't see any reason to doubt Erik on his personal details (although now he well wishes he didn't post them.)


That i agree is plausible. How do you explain Erik Kraft's rapid understanding of Wikipedia editing protocol? How do you explain he found User:Erik's page without ColScott saying who he was?

[edit] Also note that user:Erik says he HAS been outed. (Not that he is afraid of being outed).

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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sat 24th April 2010, 4:25pm) *

No they are the same age (33). User:Erik was lying about his age, obviously.

Two different people, or User:Erik was lying in 2006 about his age.

The age 33 for Erik A. Kraft is solid; this comes from various public records. His exact birthday seems to be 1977-03-23. On his résumé he says "B.A., English, and B.A., Psychology, College of Letters and Science University of Wisconsin-Madison, December 1999." (You can still see the cache copy of it by searching for "erik kraft"+resume in Google.)

In 1999 User:Erik was too young to graduate; he would have been almost 14. Also, on that résumé Erik A. Kraft says that he did grad work at U.Illinois: "M.L.I.S., Graduate School of Library and Information Science University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, May 2005." There is no reason to doubt this.

Yesterday User:Erik added this line to his user page: "I'm from Chicago, IL and am a graduate of University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign." That's not quite the same thing, but it's close enough to raise eyebrows. It might even be true, although that would be quite a coincidence.

Today User:Erik deleted it and added this edit summary: "Removed incriminating information to avoid harassment."

I suspect that User:Erik is closely following the Murphy forum, and cleverly added that bit yesterday as a "false flag" operation. It looks like the Murphy forum link to the résumé appeared just hours before User:Erik added that line.

Then today he deleted it, with an eyebrow-raising edit summary, perhaps because he realized that he may be liable if it is proven that this information is false. The timing of User:Erik's posting and removal, and his edit summary, are potentially a problem for him. Originally he posted a photo that Murphy doesn't want posted, while hiding behind a screen name (that's bad enough). Now he might be playing games with Murphy (not a good idea).

It could make him liable if he is posting false information that facilitates the harassment of Erik A. Kraft, an innocent party, in order to further obscure his own identity.

Anyway, this is all speculation, but I think my scenario is much more likely than the scenario that User:Erik lied in 2006 on his user page about his age. In my scenario he had a motive for what he's done since yesterday, but I don't see any motive for lying about his age in 2006. I hope Murphy finds User:Erik, whoever he is.

By the way, I think there's enough questionable shenanigans going on here to get User:Erik thoroughly checkusered for all of his edits that relate at all to Murphy and/or Transformers, from as far back as the logs permit.

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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 24th April 2010, 11:18pm) *

Yesterday User:Erik added this line to his user page: "I'm from Chicago, IL and am a graduate of University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign." That's not quite the same thing, but it's close enough to raise eyebrows. It might even be true, although that would be quite a coincidence.


What's the coincidence, that there were two people named Erik who went to the University of Illinois in 2005?
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QUOTE(anthony @ Sun 25th April 2010, 3:16pm) *

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 24th April 2010, 11:18pm) *

Yesterday User:Erik added this line to his user page: "I'm from Chicago, IL and am a graduate of University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign." That's not quite the same thing, but it's close enough to raise eyebrows. It might even be true, although that would be quite a coincidence.


What's the coincidence, that there were two people named Erik who went to the University of Illinois in 2005?


The coincidences are in the odd timeline.

23/Apr 18:51 Murphy makes first post 'find Erik'
23/Apr 19:30 user:Erik puts on his WP use page that he is "I'm from Chicago, IL and am a graduate of University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. "
23/Apr 20:19 GarethFT posts link to CV on Kraft's site (since removed by Kraft)
23/Apr 20:52 JesterJJZ posts Kraft address and phone

24/Apr 10:41 user:Erik says on ANI that he 'It is not funny to be outed.
24/Apr 12:27 user:Erik removes the 'I'm from Chicago' saying 'Removed incriminating evidence'
24/Apr 15:30 Erik Kraft gets called by Murphy - speaks for 30 minutes. The call was to a London number (according to Murphy I think).
24/Apr 16:01 Erik Kraft (London IP) makes series of posts on Wikipedia - Erik page, Arcayne page, ANI. Says he doesn't know who 'Don' is.
24/Apr 16:18 Erik Kraft makes series of posts on Murphy's web site.
24/Apr 16:30 Murphy removes Kraft address and phone
24/Apr 18:50 user:Erik makes series of harassment complaints on ANI and elsewhere
24/Apr 19:03 Erik Kraft creates a Wikipedia account
24/Apr 19:09 user:Erik posts on ANI apologising to Kraft
24/Apr 19:09 Erik Kraft immediately replies
24/Apr 19:09 user:Erik makes another series of posts on ANI, begins archiving
24/Apr 19:26 Erik Kraft posts on ANI asking if Murphy has ever caused physical harm
24/Apr 19:26 user:Erik edits for about hour and a half on Murphy-related pages, archives some more stuff
24/Apr 19:17 Erik Kraft makes series of posts on ANI asking user:Erik what he means by 'outed' - he says he is the one who has been outed.

The really odd thing, as others have commented, is why user:Erik puts the "am a graduate of University of Illinois" AFTER the first posting by Murphy. And then removes shortly after. Why?

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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sun 25th April 2010, 5:00pm) *

The really odd thing, as others have commented, is why user:Erik puts the "am a graduate of University of Illinois" AFTER the first posting by Murphy. And then removes shortly after. Why?


Seems the most likely (but not only) explanation is that he added (and removed) it because it isn't true. Maybe intentionally to frame someone, or maybe he just picked U of I randomly and unwittingly framed someone. I don't see the the fact there is, indeed, someone named Erik who graduated from the University of Illinois, as a very unlikely coincidence. Nothing else about the two Eriks (one of whom might not even be named Erik) seems to match.

The rest of the timeline doesn't strike me as odd in the least.

QUOTE(BelovedFox @ Sun 25th April 2010, 5:08pm) *

It's only odd if you're really looking for a pattern. They could be one and the same, Erik could have tried to deliberately throw Murphy's dogs off the scent, or he might have added it and immediately found out why that was a bad idea. He could have been ignorant of the entire thing for too long, stupid, both, or just unlucky. Point is, we have no real evidence for any of it.


Exactly.

The odd part is that "Peter Damian" is looking for patterns. What's the point of looking for patterns if you "don't have any beliefs"? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

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carbuncle   Ok, are we all agreed that User:Erik and Erik Kraf...  
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