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| Donny |
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QUOTE(Selina @ Thu 18th May 2006, 4:01am) 
An experiment really... I noticed some admins gave up using their account but still lurked on the boards, using what people say here as a weapon against them, so I think it may be beneficial... I dunno. It's not any harm to see how it goes anyway
My feeling is that it's not a good idea, for two reasons. First, people should take responsibility for what they are saying here. It's clear that the Wikipedians are going to use anything that people say against them, but then again Wikipedia is currently a nightmare of manipulative behaviour and general shenanigans. Secondly, not allowing unregistered users to read the forum stops new members from seeing what we are discussing, and may stop people from wanting to join the forum. What this forum needs is lots more members, and more public awareness, and making it unreadable seems contradictory. Besides that, won't it be possible for non-members to read the forum simply by looking at the Google cache? |
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| Blu Aardvark |
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I agree with the above. We really shouldn't hide our boards. People are accountable for what they say here, and it should be that way.
I agree about hiding some boards, such as the tar pit, but our main forums should remain open.
Screw the Wikipedia admin-trolls. They are going to watch this board regardless, whether it is with their own account, a sleeper account, or a communal account. Let's not sacrifice our open nature in the name of dealing with trolls, because hey, that's what Wikipedia does.
If you do not want to be held accountable for your posts, sign up with an username that will grant anonymity. (I often wish that I had stayed macho-anonymous instead of boldly stating my identity on this forum and on Wikipedia).
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Interesting remarks made QUOTE Addendum comment by FeloniousMonk
Unsurprisingly I suppose, this RFC and Nathanrdotcom have a connection to chronic troublemakers at Wikipedia Review and specifically, Zordac/bliss2yu. Those in the know, know where to look. I'm curious to know exactly how many disruptions, groundless accusations and baseless actions here at wikipedia either arise from, or are otherwise related to, this group. FeloniousMonk 15:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Completely and utterly irrelevant. Are you going to judge me on who my friends are now? For the record (and I feel I have to say it), I've known Zordac since the late 90's, long before Wikipedia was even a gleam in Jimbo's eye. - Nathan 15:12, 17 May 2006 (UTC) |
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QUOTE(sgrayban @ Thu 18th May 2006, 7:38pm) Interesting remarks made QUOTE Addendum comment by FeloniousMonk
Unsurprisingly I suppose, this RFC and Nathanrdotcom have a connection to chronic troublemakers at Wikipedia Review and specifically, Zordac/bliss2yu. Those in the know, know where to look. I'm curious to know exactly how many disruptions, groundless accusations and baseless actions here at wikipedia either arise from, or are otherwise related to, this group. FeloniousMonk 15:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Completely and utterly irrelevant. Are you going to judge me on who my friends are now? For the record (and I feel I have to say it), I've known Zordac since the late 90's, long before Wikipedia was even a gleam in Jimbo's eye. - Nathan 15:12, 17 May 2006 (UTC) Since July 1996, to be precise. Not that we've kept in constant contact though. I hadn't heard much from him for about 3 years before just recently. And from what 1997-2000 or so we didn't know that each other existed. I didn't know he was Nathan in 1996 though, and he didn't know my real name. Interesting story that. We both used pseudonyms. He knew me as Cat and I knew him as, um, well, I forget what name he used then actually. It was interesting that when we met again 4 years later we had no idea that it was the same person. Took like a year to figure it out. |
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| Nathan |
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Selina, I was thinking of commenting about being called a troll (in the RfC) just for using Wikipedia Review but you beat me to it (though it wasn't until after the fact that I noticed).  also... QUOTE(sgrayban @ Thu 18th May 2006, 6:00am) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req.../Tony_Sidaway_3 -- no such article 04:57, 18 May 2006 Shanel deleted "Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Tony Sidaway 3" (content was: '#REDIRECT User:Tony Sidaway/Requests for comment/Tony Sidaway 3' (and the only contributor was 'Shanel')) FTR, I asked for it to be deleted and dropped. That's my fault that I didn't provide a backup for everyone to read, sorry. Please don't blame Shanel, she did as I asked. Tony Sidaway has this backed up in his userspace (keeping it breeds more negative feelings but some admins never listen, and why would my saying so stop them). Link was previously provided - I don't think Sidaway will delete it from his userspace - he tends to keep things so he can look at them later and laugh at who posted. blissyu2 - I went by 'Sunspot' at the time. Don't ask, I don't remember where I made that name up from. I think it was a random thing. Interestingly enough, I'm still known as that on one talker (amazing there are still talkers left). I e-mailed FeloniousMonk to make sure my comment (above) was noticed and added (because sometimes, I enjoy causing trouble): "I should not be held accountable for what my friends choose to do any more than my friends should be held accountable for what I do - that is a completely absurd and ridiculous notion. Oh, and you can go ahead and label me a troll because I post on Wikipedia Review. As you pointed out, wikipedians have no rights - nor do they have any right whatsoever to question authority on Wikipedia in or outside the wiki." I figured you'd like that one. I love using sarcasm as a weapon. - Nathan |
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