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Durova_and_Jehochman Arb-com case is opened!, ...the supersekret mailing list is part of the case..... |
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Pop that popcorn and take your seats! Private Musings brings up the not-so-secret "secret mailing list" here....Wikidiots are already trying to put out the flames... QUOTE Statement by uninvolved party Stephan Schulz (talk)
I would suggest to withdraw this request for now, or alternatively for the ArbCom to reject it without prejudice. There is a very active and productive RfC pertinent to this topic, and an action by ArbCom would be premature at this time. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 12:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Statement by uninvolved party Alecmconroy
I concur-- insofar as this Arbcom applies to Durova, it's entirely unnecessary. She's an "Administrators open to recall" whose set her limit at 5 users. The count that have requested recall/desysop now stands at I believe 20+, so a new RFA is a certainty.
To file an Arbcom case now, demanding a forcible desysop, is to Assume Bad Faith, in essence "expecting her to reneg on her recall promise". There is no reason whatsoever to suspect this-- she'll agree to a new RFA, and in all likelyhood she'll pass it too. I'd suggest withdrawing the RFAr, or at least withdrawing her from it. --Alecmconroy (talk) 13:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC) Now, I don't believe that they're going to accept this for a minute....but it could get, um, interesting even if they don't..... I think that Greg needs to add "FREE DUROVA!" items to his shop! This post has been edited by the fieryangel:
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Statement by uninvolved party Alecmconroy I concur-- insofar as this Arbcom applies to Durova, it's entirely unnecessary. She's an "Administrators open to recall" whose set her limit at 5 users. The count that have requested recall/desysop now stands at I believe 20+, so a new RFA is a certainty. To file an Arbcom case now, demanding a forcible desysop, is to Assume Bad Faith, in essence "expecting her to reneg on her recall promise". There is no reason whatsoever to suspect this-- she'll agree to a new RFA, and in all likelyhood she'll pass it too. I'd suggest withdrawing the RFAr, or at least withdrawing her from it. --Alecmconroy (talk) 13:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC) The Durova RFA will be her last attempt at becoming an admin. again. Without consensus, she will be back to being a troll, like the rest of us. There is no granting her a "grandfather clause." She is finished as a sleuth. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/huh.gif)
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Userhu12 weighs in on the question : QUOTE Statement by uninvolved party Hu12
I suggest either a voluntary withdrawal, or that ArbCom consider closing this case without prejudice in light of remedies already in progress. This really should serve as a last step in resolution, and having this case concurrent with the active RFC may be unproductive and possibly unnecessary.--Hu12 (talk) 14:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC) Uninvolved???? REALLY???I can't wait for Jzg's statement... Oh, wait, there it is!....He must have been reading this : QUOTE Statement by JzG
The list of parties is rather too small. Durova made an error, for which she apologised, unblocked the editor, and said she would learn from it and not do it again. The reason the dispute has run this long is that some people seem unwilling to accept anything less than harsh punitive action. Guy (Help!) 14:40, 24 November 2007 (UTC) ...Well, why don't they add JzG as a party then? Already two three accepts : QUOTE * Accept. James F. (talk) 14:04, 24 November 2007 (UTC) * Accept. There are several issues here which need looking into. Paul August ☎ 14:26, 24 November 2007 (UTC) * Accept Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 14:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
So, maybe they will take this case? This post has been edited by the fieryangel:
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QUOTE(KamrynMatika @ Sat 24th November 2007, 2:51pm) Has anyone else noticed that Jehochman has been distancing himself from Durova since it happened [to the extent that he joined in the criticism of her]? He knows what's going to happen, and doesn't want to get dragged down with her. It's so amusing to watch her little meatpuppet act like he didn't completely support her when it happened (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) btw the title is a bit misleading; it has not been 'opened' Meatpuppet Jehochman is not going to wiggle out of this. Dmcdevit cites Jehochman's block of DreamGuy based on month old diffs. ...we drive them away with spurious blocks based on stale diffs dredged up by an edit warring adversary, I see. This is a bit ludicrous.El_C chimes in I agree with Dmcdevit. Jehochman uncommunicable conduct here has been truly bizarre, likely abusive.
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He's a smart one. He gave the snowball the gentle push it needed (remember, he was the first guy to imply that Durova had broken protocol/wikietiquette/common sense). edit: She has spoken! QUOTE Interrupting a short wikibreak to make a statement here. It surprises me that this was initiated just a few hours after the RFC on my conduct got certified. I have always welcomed the Committee's scrutiny and continue to welcome it. DurovaCharge! 16:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC) She's no stranger to the Ways of the Arbcom, she's used the get-out-of-jail-via-wikibreak card. This post has been edited by cyofee:
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 24th November 2007, 10:16am) Newyorkbrad has recused himself, "(because of my participation in the original ANI thread concerning User:!!)."
oh, AS-IF. When did talking in the ANI thread disqualify anyone? That's code for "the Arbcom loves Durova, and I don't want to be on her deathwish list if or when she isn't booted from here to eternity"
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 24th November 2007, 10:53am) Oh! Obviously this is a wikipediareview sock! Its his MO, she's seen it for 100 years! Here he is again, trying to make a buck! *More seriously, I think the woman is going to regret having been such a busybody, certainly in the case of Greg, whom she never had any reason to attack, other than to make more drama, as usual..also, East718 just joined WR.This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey:
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sat 24th November 2007, 11:38am) Maybe we can interest him in a "Durova for Arb-com" button?
No, I think he's more neutral. Blocking that entry to her talk page wasn't unexpected. Also, he didn't indef it, as most would have. A mug or doggie t-shirt might be in order. If he's not bought them already.
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