Elonka vs ChrisO Options

It's fascinating to watch the rats scurry around with silly wikilawyering arguments why Elonka cannot be recalled. Various arguments like insisting that Jehochman is not in "good standing", or that she really meant "six net editors" or some other such nonsense.

Six net editors, oh, that's good.

Elonka's tactic is to make enemies, then exclude them from discussions on the ground that they have a history with her. Her friends and sycophants, on the other hand, can always be involved.

Reading from the most worn page of her playbook, she has accused Jehochman of "harassment":

Jehochman, taking a look at your contribs over the last few days, {{user|Jehochman}}, it appears that nearly all you've been doing, is hovering over my RfC and reacting to everything. As I'm sure you know, you have already been cautioned for harassment on multiple occasions. Some of your comments at the RfC have also been, shall we say, not as truthful as they could have been. So, could you perhaps try to find something else to do on Wikipedia, that isn't related to me? Thanks,
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=230213544

I've been trying to reserve judgement on the matter, but Elonka's post on Jehochman's talk page reminds me of another admin who is the current subject of two separate RfARs. To try to intimidate someone with unsupported accusations of harassment is unacceptable. She still hasn't withdrawn it.

I've decide to post for the first time. The atmosphere here is a bit less corrosive today than at Wikipedia.

I've decide to post for the first time. The atmosphere here is a bit less corrosive today than at Wikipedia.

Ah so glad of you to join us Jehochman, pull up a chair and stay a while.

I've decide to post for the first time. The atmosphere here is a bit less corrosive today than at Wikipedia.

I came to that realization some time ago. Welcome.

I've decide to post for the first time. The atmosphere here is a bit less corrosive today than at Wikipedia.

Welcome, Jehochman!

I was thinking of you earlier today, actually, and the discussion surrounding your RfA.

I've decide to post for the first time. The atmosphere here is a bit less corrosive today than at Wikipedia.

I'm somewhat less sanguine and welcoming.

I would see fit to ban JeHochman a priori. Beyond that for making any future comment with which I might disagree.

Reciprocity and all that.

I've been trying to reserve judgement on the matter, but Elonka's post on Jehochman's talk page reminds me of another admin who is the current subject of two separate RfARs. To try to intimidate someone with unsupported accusations of harassment is unacceptable. She still hasn't withdrawn it.

It's the triumvirate of the perfect storm (of hypocrisy).

Though I do have to admit that it amuses me that in his statement, ChrisO is trying to refer to me as some sort of junior administrator. It's true that I've only been an admin on Wikipedia since December 2007, but I would point out that I have been a professional online community manager for 20 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=229320753

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And your first job....... and your mother......... and your father......... and your husband....... and your ...... hobbies...... and your obsessive (ironic) COI attacks on others who do what you do ....

Hey 'LONKA......

Like, girlfriend: "Get a website" (oh you did), or "get a blog" (oh, well then) ok - "get thee to a knol(lery), GO!".

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: Thu 7th August 2008, 5:45am

What are the expectations here? What are the different ways to get banned?

Lackey, think of all the fun you can have with me here. If I go away, that will be very BORING.

And where is my friend theKohser?

This post has been edited by Jehochman: Thu 7th August 2008, 6:06am

You overestimate your capacity for "being boring" unintentionally Jon.

On existential grounds. Sui generis yawnium.





But then, there's the ripe opportunity for accidental-unintentional "take myself so seriously I become hilarious" humor too.

So it all balances.

Fun? No. Many adjectives, adverbs and such would apply. Fun is not one of them. "Idiosyncratic" comes to mind.

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: Thu 7th August 2008, 6:30am

I've decide to post for the first time. The atmosphere here is a bit less corrosive today than at Wikipedia.

I'm somewhat less sanguine and welcoming.

I would see fit to ban JeHochman a priori. Beyond that for making any future comment with which I might disagree.

Reciprocity and all that.

I'm inclined to agree with DL. When I said the Elonka recall looked like a rat fucking, i wasn't distinguishing between any of the rats!

That being said, welcome Jon. Try not to overly attack or harass our dedicated volunteers.

What are the expectations here? What are the different ways to get banned?

Lackey, think of all the fun you can have with me here. If I go away, that will be very BORING.

And where is my friend theKohser?

Hey there, Jehochman! Welcome indeed to Wikipedia Review Do pull up a chair and grab a beer.

How come I didn't get a welcome when I came on a few days ago?

This post has been edited by Crestatus: Thu 7th August 2008, 10:09pm

How come I didn't get a welcome when I came on a few days ago?

Late welcome!

Apologies, I try to get people when I see them post first.

How come I didn't get a welcome when I came on a few days ago?

Welcome! We need a "New members" forum where people can introduce themselves when they register.

Better late than never, I guess.

How come I didn't get a welcome when I came on a few days ago?

Welcome! We need a "New members" forum where people can introduce themselves when they register.

We use the Lounge for that. Welcome, Crestatus.

How come I didn't get a welcome when I came on a few days ago?

Welcome! We need a "New members" forum where people can introduce themselves when they register.

We use the Lounge for that. Welcome, Crestatus.

And also, we don't care that much about you.

For the first time since May 10, Elonka did not edit - to avoid the veritable shitstorm that is her talk page?

Will she step down? Place your bets...

For the first time since May 10, Elonka did not edit - to avoid the veritable shitstorm that is her talk page?

Will she step down? Place your bets...

Well, I try to choose my battles, but I'm thinking about getting involved in this one. I'll check to see if Elonka has backed up her allegations against Jechochman with any evidence, or else withdrawn them.

For the first time since May 10, Elonka did not edit - to avoid the veritable shitstorm that is her talk page?

Will she step down? Place your bets...

Well, I try to choose my battles, but I'm thinking about getting involved in this one. I'll check to see if Elonka has backed up her allegations against Jechochman with any evidence, or else withdrawn them.

Elonka hasn't made a single edit since the very minute after the recall proposal was submitted to her talk page, so I doubt she's backed up much of anything with evidence.

My bet's on her not stepping down. With as many tries at RfA as it took for her to become an admin in the first place, I don't see her handing it over because of a dispute she so adamantly disagrees with.

"Try not to overly attack or harass our dedicated volunteers."

Don't worry, I'll go easy on them.