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Problematic Moieties of Behavior

Krimpet's case is as good as any to point out why a Course in Practical Ethics should be a requirement for any Admin.

On the one hand, she needed lot of cojones to go up against FeloniousMonk and his band of marauding goons from IDCab. Had WP required that all Admins pass a course in Practical Ethics, FeloniousMonk, KillerChihuahua, and the rest of their ethically challenged sycophants wouldn't have been there to raise her stress levels, consume her patience, or create the hostile conditions that breed crude trolls like Grawp.

Had there been a course in Practical Ethics for all Admins, there would have been a cadre of like-minded thinkers to help her deal with the challenging ethical conundrums that finally drew her over the fateful line.

Had there been a course in Practical Ethics for all Admins, she might have been better prepared to appreciate that publishing dox on Grawp sets a dangerous precedent that such practices are normative in WikiCulture. Of all the things one learns in Ethical Reasoning, it's the ability to put oneself in the other person's shoes. The vernacular expression is, "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." Here it is even more important, because any practice introduced by any Admin can thus evolve to become a normative practice in the culture.

Double standards are a corrosive practice that undermines the legitimacy of any administration, and one that inevitably breeds an eventual backlash that can blindside any administration foolish enough to entertain such a glaring imbalance in the normative standards of behavior between the empowered insiders and the disempowered outsiders.
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 30th January 2009, 9:46pm) *

Problematic Moieties of Behavior

Krimpet's case is as good as any to point out why a Course in Practical Ethics should be a requirement for any Admin.

On the one hand, she needed lot of cojones to go up against FeloniousMonk and his band of marauding goons from IDCab. Had WP required that all Admins pass a course in Practical Ethics, FeloniousMonk, KillerChihuahua, and the rest of their ethically challenged sycophants wouldn't have been there to raise her stress levels, consume her patience, or create the hostile conditions that breed crude trolls like Grawp.

Had there been a course in Practical Ethics for all Admins, there would have been a cadre of like-minded thinkers to help her deal with the challenging ethical conundrums that finally drew her over the fateful line.

Had there been a course in Practical Ethics for all Admins, she might have been better prepared to appreciate that publishing dox on Grawp sets a dangerous precedent that such practices are normative in WikiCulture. Of all the things one learns in Ethical Reasoning, it's the ability to put oneself in the other person's shoes. The vernacular expression is, "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." Here it is even more important, because any practice introduced by any Admin can thus evolve to become a normative practice in the culture.

Double standards are a corrosive practice that undermines the legitimacy of any administration, and one that inevitably breeds an eventual backlash that can blindside any administration foolish enough to entertain such a glaring imbalance in the normative standards of behavior between the empowered insiders and the disempowered outsiders.


Wikipedia governance reminds me of South Side Chicago Street thugs. No rules, no ethics, just might in the fist, the ballbat, and the gun. Those that lose end up in the river.
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Wikipedia governance reminds me of South Side Chicago Street thugs. No rules, no ethics, just might in the fist, the ballbat, and the gun. Those that lose end up in the river.

Ummm. That's really 99% of any governance. Most of the improvement through history is that we have non-fixed elections of representatives, followed by a Robert's Rules of Order making of laws, with semi-due-process enforcement of same. Which-- true--Wikipedia has none of.

But remember that all goverments, even those that have later added the fancy bubbles, bangles, and beads which allow us to live in reasonable regard for how we're treated as citizens, maintain themselves as THE government of record/recognition, by simple force. There is no "ethics" in who rules a territory (what government or person or group of persons enforces rules there, and is the recognized "nation" there). Nor, I'm forced to admit, can I think of any process which would admit of any. So it's not surprising that there aren't. In that, Chicago South Side Thug rules are the only ones there are.

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