SlimVirgin's new presentation on "Cyberstalking", ...does she mean "her" cyberstalking or other cyberstalking? Options

[Herschelkrustofsky]

Kelly Martin's blog post, almost demanding that she give up the ghost, was a big nail in the coffin as far as I can see.

And it's quite a lucid blog post, too.

[blissyu2]

Look at that. It made it to Wiki-research-l. 3 different mailing lists now! Go go team SV!
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-...ber/000401.html

Why not in WikiEN-l? Or are we avoiding that one?

It even got a reply from Sam Katz:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-...ber/000402.html

Sam even says that they are the victim of cyber stalking, using Wikipedia as a launch pad too! woo hoo! A hit for SV!

Of course, that might be completely made up to stroke SV's ego. But hey you never know.

[alienus]

I assume it's all a trick. She plans to make it all up. No research required — just a rich role-playing fantasy world and a generous dash of righteous indignation.

Ok, that part's self-evident. What's not clear to me is the intended goal. Is she going to try to claim that new policies are needed to protect admin anonymity?

On a side note, I wonder how she might make a distinction between the standard sockpuppet witch hunt and cyberstalking.

Al

[blissyu2]

Ordinarily, I'd say that the goal was obvious - to hide what she herself has been doing for so long. However, with SlimVirgin she tends to like to play 2 cards at once, so there may be something more to it than that.

[Somey]

Ordinarily, I'd say that the goal was obvious - to hide what she herself has been doing for so long. However, with SlimVirgin she tends to like to play 2 cards at once, so there may be something more to it than that.

Hmmm... I don't think so, not this time anyway. Frankly, if this is the best she can come up with, then I think she's out of ideas.

I mean, anyone who would believe the claim that she was the target of identity exposure "just for being a Wikipedia admin" has to be completely retarded. Uhh, how many admins are there? Almost 1,300...? And how many have been "investigated" in that sense? Ten? Twenty, tops?

[blissyu2]

Ordinarily, I'd say that the goal was obvious - to hide what she herself has been doing for so long. However, with SlimVirgin she tends to like to play 2 cards at once, so there may be something more to it than that.

Hmmm... I don't think so, not this time anyway. Frankly, if this is the best she can come up with, then I think she's out of ideas.

I mean, anyone who would believe the claim that she was the target of identity exposure "just for being a Wikipedia admin" has to be completely retarded. Uhh, how many admins are there? Almost 1,300...? And how many have been "investigated" in that sense? Ten? Twenty, tops?

It doesn't matter if they are an admin or not, doing what she's done would get you investigated.

And if you think that you're MORE VULNERABLE because you hold a position of power somewhere, well, that's a big fat load of bullshit. You're a hell of a lot safer if you hold a position of power.

[blissyu2]

Another reply on research, this time from Piotr Konieczny (who?):
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-...ber/000403.html

I did like his typo tho:

It is essential that Fundation (and Jimbo!) take some steps to deal with
this, or the entire project may be in jeopardy.

Fundation? You mean where the buck stops?

Thus far it has had perhaps 10 replies (?) across 3 mailing lists. Of course, none of the mailing lists are used too much. Perhaps she is just wanting e-mails.

How many will SlimVirgin claim have e-mailed her?

[Unrepentant Vandal]

My guess is that she's motivated by a need to justify to herself her remaining on WP.

[Jonny Cache]

She hasn't been editing Wikipedia, at least under the name SlimVirgin, for week now. Maybe it's just a compulsive need to be typing ∑thing ∑where.

Jonny

[blissyu2]

Oh.

[jdrand]

My hunch is that Virginia Slim is launching an offensive here to deflect the well-earned scrutiny of her behavior which followed the Ohmynews scandal and the revelations about her sock-puppetry. She is skilled at putting together fallacy of composition arguments, along the lines of this:

1. Many people say that they have experienced great psychic pain because they have been cyberstalked. This is especially true when they are admins. It is even more especially true when they are female admins. Nota bene: I am a female admin.

2. The recent exposés of my sockpuppetry, my previous shady activities as a putative journalist, and my general exploitation of Wikipedia for dubious purposes, were the work of cyberstalkers, who, it is said, cause great psychic pain to many people, especially admins, especially female admins, etc., etc.

3. Therefore, these recent exposés of my misconduct should be ignored, despite the fact that I am guilty as sin, so as not to give aid and comfort to the cyberstalkers.

She says this:
The recent exposés of my sockpuppetry, my previous shady activities as a putative journalist, and my general exploitation of Wikipedia for dubious purposes, were the work of cyberstalkers, who, it is said, cause great psychic pain to many people, especially admins, especially female admins, etc., etc.

BUT she admits those are true, and the "cyberstalkers" are actually telling the truth:

" ...despite the fact that I am guilty as sin...

.

Another H Y P O C R I T E.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

My hunch is that Virginia Slim is launching an offensive here to deflect the well-earned scrutiny of her behavior which followed the Ohmynews scandal and the revelations about her sock-puppetry. She is skilled at putting together fallacy of composition arguments, along the lines of this:

1. Many people say that they have experienced great psychic pain because they have been cyberstalked. This is especially true when they are admins. It is even more especially true when they are female admins. Nota bene: I am a female admin.

2. The recent exposés of my sockpuppetry, my previous shady activities as a putative journalist, and my general exploitation of Wikipedia for dubious purposes, were the work of cyberstalkers, who, it is said, cause great psychic pain to many people, especially admins, especially female admins, etc., etc.

3. Therefore, these recent exposés of my misconduct should be ignored, despite the fact that I am guilty as sin, so as not to give aid and comfort to the cyberstalkers.

She says this:
The recent exposés of my sockpuppetry, my previous shady activities as a putative journalist, and my general exploitation of Wikipedia for dubious purposes, were the work of cyberstalkers, who, it is said, cause great psychic pain to many people, especially admins, especially female admins, etc., etc.

BUT she admits those are true, and the "cyberstalkers" are actually telling the truth:

" ...despite the fact that I am guilty as sin...

.

Another H Y P O C R I T E.

Please note that those are not quotes from SlimVirgin. They are from a parody of SlimVirgin.

[Jonny Cache]

Please note that those are not quotes from SlimVirgin. They are from a parody of SlimVirgin.

You'd better watch out or she'll sue for Unauthorized Portrayal —

She is very insistent about this issue — asserting her moral right to be recognized as the author of all her own parodies.

Jonny

[Ashibaka]

It even got a reply from Sam Katz:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-...ber/000402.html

Wow, Sam, I've had personal info posted to various websites where people threatened physical harm to me, but compared to your story that's nothing! Phew!

This post has been edited by Ashibaka: Wed 12th September 2007, 8:41pm

[LamontStormstar]

It even got a reply from Sam Katz:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-...ber/000402.html

Wow, Sam, I've had personal info posted to various websites where people threatened my life, but compared to your story that's nothing! Phew!

At least you aren't the 4chan kid Trey Burba.

[Unrepentant Vandal]

At least you aren't the 4chan kid Trey Burba.

Who is that? In quotes there is a single google result, on a guestbook.

[anthony]

In case you didn't catch it, we just found out what this "paper" was all about. She was looking for help in her top-secret pseudo-arbitration session.

"The group who discussed this included the arbitration committee, the staff of Foundation, and SlimVirgin and others who have from time to time been victims of harassment or stalking." http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikie...ber/080982.html

[GlassBeadGame]

In case you didn't catch it, we just found out what this "paper" was all about. She was looking for help in her top-secret pseudo-arbitration session.

"The group who discussed this included the arbitration committee, the staff of Foundation, and SlimVirgin and others who have from time to time been victims of harassment or stalking." http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikie...ber/080982.html

A new low in convoluted and distorted process. A phony Brandeis Brief to inform a phony court.

[Jonny Cache]

In case you didn't catch it, we just found out what this "paper" was all about. She was looking for help in her top-secret pseudo-arbitration session.

"The group who discussed this included the arbitration committee, the staff of Foundation, and SlimVirgin and others who have from time to time been victims of harassment or stalking."

Source. wikien-l/2007-September/080982.html

A new low in convoluted and distorted process. A phony Brandeis Brief to inform a phony court.

Damn !

And here I was hoping past hope that SlimVirgin was preparing some kind of class-action suit — you know, sung and danced to the tune of Helen Reddy's, "A Thousand Yoo-Hoos and Me Against the World" — 'cause once a few early adopter lawyers found out there's gold in them thar hells, it would spawn a whole new breed of Wikipedic disambigulance-chasers.

Jonny

This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Thu 13th September 2007, 1:22am

[GlassBeadGame]

Damn !

And here I was hoping past hope that SlimVirgin was preparing some kind of class-action suit — you know, sung and danced to the tune of Helen Reddy's, "A Thousand Yoo-Hoos and Me Against the World" — 'cause once a few early adopter lawyers found out there's gold in them thar hells, it would spawn a whole new breed of Wikipedic disambigulance-chasers.

Jonny

Early adopter lawyers got their hands full trying to keep the bio-meat puppet moms in line.