|
|
|
Please, dear God, will someone take JzG's stupid admin tools, appearing now at the ArbCom |
|
|
Jon Awbrey |
|
Ï„á½° δΠμοι παθήματα μαθήματα γÎγονε
Group: Moderators
Posts: 6,783
Joined:
From: Meat Puppet Nation
Member No.: 5,619
|
QUOTE(Bob Boy @ Sun 4th May 2008, 5:47pm) JzG's beyond-bizarre behavior has continued despite his statement that he will (na-na-na-I-can't-hear-you-na-na-na) not look at his RfC even though arbitrators and long-respected admins and users are commenting there. For the love of Allah, Jesus Christ, YHWH, Buddha, or whatever else is required, will someone please, please look at his recent activities and put in a request to de-sysop his stupid ass?
There's a reason, well, a cause or a motive why Wikipedia Manglement just can't do that. Wikipedia is the very antithesis of an Error-Controlled System. It acts to maintain its delusion of infallibility at all costs, denying whatever errors it makes and banning or muffling whatever messengers it takes to preserve the infantile fantasy that it never makes any mistakes. The day that they admit that adminning Guy Chapman was one of the biggest mistakes they ever made they will have to start thinking of all the good people that he ran off the project. And they cannot afford to own up to that. It might make them feel human. Jon (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/cool.gif) This post has been edited by Jon Awbrey:
|
|
|
|
ThurstonHowell3rd |
|
Senior Member
Group: Contributors
Posts: 280
Joined:
Member No.: 5,302
|
QUOTE(Amarkov @ Sun 4th May 2008, 3:22pm) The Arbitration Committee is much too impotent to actually sanction an admin for continually being stupid. There has to be a big incident people can point to, and say "look, THIS is why he needs to be desysopped". Otherwise, we're just engaging in "statistical analysis of questionable veracity" regarding his edits.
We are about to see if Arbcom is impotent (JzG request for arbitration): link... and yes they are... the arbs want to combine it with Cal68's arbitration, a totally unrelated case. This post has been edited by ThurstonHowell3rd:
|
|
|
|
Kato |
|
dhd
Group: Regulars
Posts: 5,521
Joined:
Member No.: 767
|
Great comment from Squeakbox - the king of the typo. (bolding mine) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Squeakbox) As one of our best admins who works tirelessly Guy is bound to attract enemies but that is not a reason to see him brought here to arbcom. His British way of expression may be a bit much for some non-British people butt hat is not a reason to bring him to arbcom either. If this case is accepted I hope that Guy will come out of it not only better than his opponents but with an enhaced reputation. This is the kind of admin we need, trying to chase him away is not on. Thanks, SqueakBox 21:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...olved_SqueakBoxAh yes, wearing the Butt Hat is a great British tradition and one which JzG enjoys with gusto. (IMG: http://www.percywells.com/drawings/fparchives/percywells-asshat.jpg)
|
|
|
|
KamrynMatika |
|
Ãœber Member
Group: Regulars
Posts: 626
Joined:
Member No.: 1,776
|
QUOTE(Kato @ Sun 18th May 2008, 10:53pm) Great comment from Squeakbox - the king of the typo. (bolding mine) QUOTE(Squeakbox) As one of our best admins who works tirelessly Guy is bound to attract enemies but that is not a reason to see him brought here to arbcom. His British way of expression may be a bit much for some non-British people butt hat is not a reason to bring him to arbcom either. If this case is accepted I hope that Guy will come out of it not only better than his opponents but with an enhaced reputation. This is the kind of admin we need, trying to chase him away is not on. Thanks, SqueakBox 21:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...olved_SqueakBoxGod I really hate it when people put Guy's attitude down to Britishness. It's just giving the Brits a bad name (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) "His British way of expression may be a bit much for some non-British people" as if non-non-British people would think his attitude is A-OK...
|
|
|
|
Viridae |
|
Fat Cat
Group: Regulars
Posts: 1,319
Joined:
Member No.: 1,498
|
QUOTE(KamrynMatika @ Mon 19th May 2008, 7:57am) QUOTE(Kato @ Sun 18th May 2008, 10:53pm) Great comment from Squeakbox - the king of the typo. (bolding mine) QUOTE(Squeakbox) As one of our best admins who works tirelessly Guy is bound to attract enemies but that is not a reason to see him brought here to arbcom. His British way of expression may be a bit much for some non-British people butt hat is not a reason to bring him to arbcom either. If this case is accepted I hope that Guy will come out of it not only better than his opponents but with an enhaced reputation. This is the kind of admin we need, trying to chase him away is not on. Thanks, SqueakBox 21:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...olved_SqueakBoxGod I really hate it when people put Guy's attitude down to Britishness. It's just giving the Brits a bad name (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) "His British way of expression may be a bit much for some non-British people" as if non-non-British people would think his attitude is A-OK... As LHVU put it in this edit summary: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=213335588" cor blimey, guv'nor, and no mistake me old trollop, baint nowt t'talkin' the Queens Hinglish, doncha know?"
|
|
|
|
Kato |
|
dhd
Group: Regulars
Posts: 5,521
Joined:
Member No.: 767
|
QUOTE(KamrynMatika @ Sun 18th May 2008, 10:57pm) God I really hate it when people put Guy's attitude down to Britishness. It's just giving the Brits a bad name (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) "His British way of expression may be a bit much for some non-British people" as if non-non-British people would think his attitude is A-OK... Guy is a certain kind of Brit that you have to understand though, and despite my stinging criticism of some of his behavior, he is a very human figure whose motives are familiar and easy to discern. At least to me. I just think he's wrong a lot of the time. I set him apart from those Midwich Cuckoo kids and crazed American libertarians on wikipedia who scare the crap out of me. When JzG goes nuts I can hear his voice as human. When those weirdos go off the rails I hear either HAL, or the voice of some shrill South Park caricature. QUOTE(Viridae @ Sun 18th May 2008, 11:03pm) As LHVU put it in this edit summary: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=213335588" cor blimey, guv'nor, and no mistake me old trollop, baint nowt t'talkin' the Queens Hinglish, doncha know?" Where LHVU lives, he probably sounds like Long John Silver. So less of the ribbin', my loverrrr and pour me anotherrrr Spingo, me hearties. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)
|
|
|
|
Lar |
|
"His blandness goes to 11!"
Group: Regulars
Posts: 2,116
Joined:
From: A large LEGO storage facility
Member No.: 4,290
|
QUOTE(wikiwhistle @ Sun 18th May 2008, 7:47pm) QUOTE(dtobias @ Mon 19th May 2008, 12:40am) QUOTE(Kato @ Sun 18th May 2008, 6:11pm) crazed American libertarians on wikipedia
Hey, I resemble that remark. Lol, you're particularly good at your puns etc. recently.(IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) That's an oldie but a goodie, on this side of the pond anyway. why does "crazed American libertarians on wikipedia" sound kinda like "white punks on dope" in how it resonates???
|
|
|
|
Giggy |
|
Ãœber Member
Group: Inactive
Posts: 755
Joined:
From: Australia
Member No.: 5,552
|
QUOTE(KamrynMatika @ Mon 19th May 2008, 7:57am) QUOTE(Kato @ Sun 18th May 2008, 10:53pm) Great comment from Squeakbox - the king of the typo. (bolding mine) QUOTE(Squeakbox) As one of our best admins who works tirelessly Guy is bound to attract enemies but that is not a reason to see him brought here to arbcom. His British way of expression may be a bit much for some non-British people butt hat is not a reason to bring him to arbcom either. If this case is accepted I hope that Guy will come out of it not only better than his opponents but with an enhaced reputation. This is the kind of admin we need, trying to chase him away is not on. Thanks, SqueakBox 21:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...olved_SqueakBoxGod I really hate it when people put Guy's attitude down to Britishness. It's just giving the Brits a bad name (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) "His British way of expression may be a bit much for some non-British people" as if non-non-British people would think his attitude is A-OK... I always wonder how much I could get away with simply by saying " I'm Australian, mate"...
|
|
|
|
Milton Roe |
|
Known alias of J. Random Troll
Group: Regulars
Posts: 10,209
Joined:
Member No.: 5,156
|
QUOTE(Kato @ Sun 18th May 2008, 10:53pm) Great comment from Squeakbox - the king of the typo. (bolding mine) QUOTE(Squeakbox) As one of our best admins who works tirelessly Guy is bound to attract enemies but that is not a reason to see him brought here to arbcom. His British way of expression may be a bit much for some non-British people butt hat is not a reason to bring him to arbcom either. If this case is accepted I hope that Guy will come out of it not only better than his opponents but with an enhaced reputation. This is the kind of admin we need, trying to chase him away is not on. Thanks, SqueakBox 21:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...olved_SqueakBoxLulz. I gather that a lot of non-Brits have been butt hat by the Guy, then. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif) Stop, before ED creeps into my personality further. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif)
|
|
|
|
Viridae |
|
Fat Cat
Group: Regulars
Posts: 1,319
Joined:
Member No.: 1,498
|
QUOTE(Giggy @ Mon 19th May 2008, 12:27pm) QUOTE(KamrynMatika @ Mon 19th May 2008, 7:57am) QUOTE(Kato @ Sun 18th May 2008, 10:53pm) Great comment from Squeakbox - the king of the typo. (bolding mine) QUOTE(Squeakbox) As one of our best admins who works tirelessly Guy is bound to attract enemies but that is not a reason to see him brought here to arbcom. His British way of expression may be a bit much for some non-British people butt hat is not a reason to bring him to arbcom either. If this case is accepted I hope that Guy will come out of it not only better than his opponents but with an enhaced reputation. This is the kind of admin we need, trying to chase him away is not on. Thanks, SqueakBox 21:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...olved_SqueakBoxGod I really hate it when people put Guy's attitude down to Britishness. It's just giving the Brits a bad name (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) "His British way of expression may be a bit much for some non-British people" as if non-non-British people would think his attitude is A-OK... I always wonder how much I could get away with simply by saying " I'm Australian, mate"... I have pointed out my hard swearing, insult flinging australian heritage several times in response to those who have used Guy's british status as an excuse. I might have a filthier mouth than most peole around but that doesnt mean it needs to be displayed in a forum where it is likely to be misconstrued. The instant I start calling male editors a cunt in a jocular manner that can't be discerned ver the internet is the instant I get blocked for NPA. (apologies to the americans who don't use the C word quite like we do)
|
|
|
|
dogbiscuit |
|
Could you run through Verifiability not Truth once more?
Group: Members
Posts: 2,972
Joined:
From: The Midlands
Member No.: 4,015
|
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 19th May 2008, 8:26pm) If you were French or even a Francophone like (say) Wjscriber, we could forgive you for that. But I fail to see what this does for Brits accused of being foul-mouthed.
I'm sure some of this is a class-thing (Maybe he's from the wrong part of Manchester?), but just about anybody with frontal lobes and age over 18 has learned to moderate speech in some way in polite society or discourse.
Has the Chunnel really resulted in more cunt-using Brits?
It is really depressing to even have to argue this. Using extremely bad language like this in public is something that is simply jolly well not done in Britain. As I am sure I have said before, what is appropriate on the shop floor, or down the pub between friends is not generally accepted - and in fact, if groups talked loudly using bad language in many civilised pubs they would be told to keep it down, or get on their bikes. The level I would put Wikipedia at is that of a public meeting place where you know that you will be overheard. Any reasonable Brit would know to avoid bad language in such a context. Indeed, plenty of people would be happy to point out politely that bad language is not appropriate. The BBC 606 boards do not tolerate any bad language at all. It is not that we don't hear it, it is not that we don't use it, it is that we think it doesn't reflect well on us. Call me old fashioned, but I do find it nicer to get through the day avoiding the issue of whether the someone who called me a wanker was really my mate or not. Actually, being called a fool is usually much more hurtful, as there is no getting around the intent. So this stuff about it being OK to go around Britain being foul mouthed is just more Guy lack of self-awareness. Guy is just taking people for a ride because he knows that the majority of Americans haven't a clue: America is the country where Phil Collins said wanker in Miami Vice shown on prime time networked TV because nobody knew what it meant. Tell you what, next time you are checking in at a BA desk and you have a problem, see what happens if you say "Just fucking sort it out." I've seen it happen, and they are quite happy to refund your ticket there and then. Similarly, if a member of staff lost their cool, they would at least be on a written warning for that language. Does Wikipedia want to aim for high standards, or stick with the lowest common denominator? It's not going to offend me greatly if there is bad language, but it would be better if there wasn'ta nd I don't see any reason for it to be tolerated - and even less so from administrators who represent the public image of Wikipedia.
|
|
|
|
Lar |
|
"His blandness goes to 11!"
Group: Regulars
Posts: 2,116
Joined:
From: A large LEGO storage facility
Member No.: 4,290
|
QUOTE(Moulton @ Wed 21st May 2008, 3:32pm) QUOTE(guy @ Wed 21st May 2008, 3:01pm) QUOTE(Moulton @ Wed 21st May 2008, 4:39pm) And you know what happens when I get annoyed, don't you? You make lots of posts? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif) And of course you know the role model for that practice, who perhaps considers me his rival or antagonist. I think you're ascribing a theory of mind there ... or maybe 2. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)
|
|
|
|
|
|
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
| |