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post Mon 19th October 2009, 11:03am
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QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Mon 19th October 2009, 8:18am) *

Choice images are disappearing off Flickr, davidshankbone.wordpress.com blog has now gone too ... blog was locked from bots.

That friendfeed link is very interesting. When I put my cursor over the images that say "This image currently unavailable" it gives me little pop-ups that say: "David Saranga", "Novelist John Reed as Sarah Palin", "Sexy David Saranga", and "David Saranga reflecting on the Great South Bay".
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 11:51am
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This bon mot of Wankbone's seems to have slipped by beneath the radar, incidentally.
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 12:47pm
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 19th October 2009, 11:03am) *
That friendfeed link is very interesting. When I put my cursor over the images that say "This image currently unavailable" it gives me little pop-ups that say: "David Saranga", "Novelist John Reed as Sarah Palin", "Sexy David Saranga", and "David Saranga reflecting on the Great South Bay".

What "Sexy David Saranga" hanging out at hard porn director Michael Lucas's Fire Island villa?

Well, that's outed Israeli Consultate media supremo David Saranga then ... he of the 'Women of the Israeli Defense Forces' soft porn editorial and financier to 'David Shankbone Mediterranean Holiday Fund, LLC'.

Doncha just love it when all the Conservatives' prejudices about gays and Jews corrupting the morals of America all collide together in one weekend's cruising up on Fire Island?

As for Novelist John Reed as Sarah Pallin? Oh, I see ... another Shankbone edit fest turned Facebook spat with a reliable source folks, Penguin group website ... and Shanker's Love letters to Michelle Obama group!!! David says ...
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We believe that real men like a supportive aggressive streak in their women. Michelle Obama, we want you to be OUR baby mama. We'll treat you right, too.

... which must explains the Slim Virgin free ride.

Slim's a joy to the community, isn't she? She know the rules - she wrote them didn't she - and yet cruises over a whitewashing of a self-penned autobiography whose only references is the man's own personal blog. So it really only a public show of powers ... as she goes on to play ping-pong reverts on a WP:COI allegation and tag teams with Benjiboi who is outed for "shilling for other Lucas COI editors" and "having his own COI with Michael Lucas". It was Benjiboi that moved Michael Lucas (adult film director) to Michael Lucas (director) after Shankbone initiated its move from Michael Lucas (porn star) - Michael Lucas (adult film director).
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He claims he has lived in seventeen cities, six states and three countries.<ref name="About">[http://blog.shankbone.org/about/ About David Shankbone], Shankbone.org.</ref> He attended the University of Colorado and Fordham Law School, although the latter he dropped out of one year short of graduation, supposedly due to financial difficulties. He continued with a career in law as a paralegal and described the Fordham experience as a trauma.

What he actually says is ...
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In 2006, I left Fordham Law School one year short of graduation. I had missed a few credit card payments and could not qualify for student loans. The school would not help, so I returned to life as a paralegal. My sense of failure and financial devastation drove me to the verge of collapse
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I mean, my English language interpretative skills are poor but wasn't it his screw up over finances and failure to find more that were traumatic rather than "Fordham"? Poor dear ...

Meanwhile, here and here: Shankbone as WatchingWhales keep on with the Lucas Entertainment PR.

Of course, wasn't it Slim that remind recently us that sockpuppeting and WP:COI were not necessary offences at all ... unless, I presume, they were being done by someone that was opposing her.

Which bring me to the best laugh of the day ... pure genuis.
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 12:50pm
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"Citizen journalist"? You mean "amateur journalist," no? Has Mr. Miller ever been paid for his work? If not, then he is an amateur -- there is no such thing as a "citizen journalist." hrmph.gif
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 1:13pm
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QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Mon 19th October 2009, 12:47pm) *

As for Novelist John Reed as Sarah Pallin? Oh, I see ... another Shankbone edit fest turned Facebook spat with a reliable source folks, Penguin group website ... and Shanker's Love letters to Michelle Obama group!!! David says ...
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We believe that real men like a supportive aggressive streak in their women. Michelle Obama, we want you to be OUR baby mama. We'll treat you right, too.

... which must explains the Slim Virgin free ride.

John Reed must have a hard-working proofreader and editor:
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Penguin/Plume Books has very graciously offered me this opportunity to blog for a week on their site. I believe I will be unvetted (we'll see). To their mistake, I intended to add my own. My new book, All The World's A Grave: A New Play by William Shakespeare, contains a brief essay at the end. Before my wise editor got a hold of it, it was not brief, and I though to unload the whole story of my childhood, and rational for writing a new work by Shakespeare (I took apart all the known works and put them back together as a new tragedy), right here, for half a dozen people to see.
That last sentence is something else.
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 1:34pm
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Perhaps someone would like to mention at the AFD that Adam Rose, who wrote the Shankbone piece in the Columbia Journalism Review, did so as an intern there. That would be why his contact email on the CJR article is one from nyu.edu. Just saying. Also, this item on Rose's blog has an interesting but likely coincidental connection...
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 1:37pm
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Question: how many other heads of state have been interviewed by the amateur...uh, "citizen" journalists of Wikinews? The puff piece...uh, article gives the impression that the heads of state turn up every week on Wikinews.
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 1:43pm
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 19th October 2009, 2:37pm) *

Question: how many other heads of state have been interviewed by the amateur...uh, "citizen" journalists of Wikinews? The puff piece...uh, article gives the impression that the heads of state turn up every week on Wikinews.

Hey, be fair to Wikinews. They obviously have their finger on the pulse. It's not as if anyone cares about that "Afghan election overturned by the UN" or "Civil war breaking out in Pakistan" trivia when there are Australian Football League results to report.
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 1:56pm
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I just want to make sure this is documented here, lest anyone think that WR is simply a nest of petty whiners and complainers who see collusion and intrigue in the smallest comment.
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Keep. To have a profile in the Columbia Journalism Review seems to establish notability in and of itself, because it's significant coverage in a reliable source, which is what Wikipedia:Notability requires. In addition, there are the Haaretz and Information Week articles that are actually about him, not just containing passing reference to him; his work being used by The New York Times and Encylopaedia Britannica; and the comic strip based on his work in Time Out. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 13:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
* Whoa, Slim, I'm going to stop you right there. His work is "used by the Encylopaedia Britannica" in the sense that my work is "used by Wikipedia"; he happens to have uploaded some photos to the user-editable section of the E.B., and anyone else could do the same. If "used by the Encylopaedia Britannica" in this context is grounds for an article, then I'll get writing on LaraLove and Realist2 on the basis of their Maynard James Keenan and Michael Jackson Wikipedia articles being ripped off borrowed by the BBC. – iridescent 13:23, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
I think Iridescent demolishes the Britannica claim, but here's a link to the Time Out cartoon, which says underneath:
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I don't think SlimVirgin would accept that as evidence of notability for anyone other than Shankbone.
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 2:02pm
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I was about to ponder the eDrama that a potential AfD would generate, but we're already there; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Art...David_Shankbone
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 2:02pm
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 19th October 2009, 2:56pm) *

I just want to make sure this is documented here, lest anyone think that WR is simply a nest of petty whiners and complainers who see collusion and intrigue in the smallest comment.
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Keep. To have a profile in the Columbia Journalism Review seems to establish notability in and of itself, because it's significant coverage in a reliable source, which is what Wikipedia:Notability requires. In addition, there are the Haaretz and Information Week articles that are actually about him, not just containing passing reference to him; his work being used by The New York Times and Encylopaedia Britannica; and the comic strip based on his work in Time Out. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 13:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
* Whoa, Slim, I'm going to stop you right there. His work is "used by the Encylopaedia Britannica" in the sense that my work is "used by Wikipedia"; he happens to have uploaded some photos to the user-editable section of the E.B., and anyone else could do the same. If "used by the Encylopaedia Britannica" in this context is grounds for an article, then I'll get writing on LaraLove and Realist2 on the basis of their Maynard James Keenan and Michael Jackson Wikipedia articles being ripped off borrowed by the BBC. – iridescent 13:23, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
I think Iridescent demolishes the Britannica claim, but here's a link to the Time Out cartoon, which says underneath:
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I don't think SlimVirgin would accept that as evidence of notability for anyone other than Shankbone.

Slim if you're reading this, I'm not sure that the "mention in the press = warrants a biography" line is one you really want to be pushing too hard.
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 2:18pm
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 19th October 2009, 12:50pm) *

"Citizen journalist"? You mean "amateur journalist," no? Has Mr. Miller ever been paid for his work? If not, then he is an amateur -- there is no such thing as a "citizen journalist." hrmph.gif

All the easier to be the "first" then, isn't it? The entire profession started off as "citizens"?
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Slim if you're reading this, I'm not sure that the "mention in the press = warrants a biography" line is one you really want to be pushing too hard.

Good point ... David Shankbone is not a real person. It is Pee-dia role play character. And her MO has just been de-bunked. So who is ready to roll out a Slim Virgin topic on that same rational?

Do it now and keep them both busy for a bit.

As for Adam ... it is a confirmed hit. Adam is current working on a piece on "citizen journalism".
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I finally, just today, was able to read the article about me in the Columbia Journalism Review. It's two pages and thoroughly researched. Adam Rose's writing is good, and he sat with me for about 10 hours over three meetings to work on the story.

He interviewed a few of my interviewees, and I directed him to the haters' threads at the Wikipedia Review and to my former nemesis User:THF to learn what critics think.


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Did not the entire profession start off as "citizens"?


Uh, the AfD is not about the history of journalism -- it is about a bald gay man in New York who takes snapshots and puts them on the Internet. ermm.gif
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PS Is there a Simple Wikipedia version of the Shankbone article, too? ermm.gif
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post Mon 19th October 2009, 5:10pm
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 19th October 2009, 9:58am) *

PS Is there a Simple Wikipedia version of the Shankbone article, too? ermm.gif

No, but there's a Latin one ... kinda! So his BLP is proliferating already - such is the way.
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QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 19th October 2009, 1:10pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 19th October 2009, 9:58am) *

PS Is there a Simple Wikipedia version of the Shankbone article, too? ermm.gif

No, but there's a Latin one ... kinda! So his BLP is proliferating already - such is the way.


That is scary. I sorta imagine a Simple Wikipedia version of the Shank article could come with a .wav file of Peter Graves from "Airplane!" asking the kid if he ever saw a grown man naked. wacko.gif
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The logic of some astounds me!

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# Keep He was featured in Wikinews [2], there a picture of him shaking hands with the president of Israel. There are plenty of mentions of him in the news, references to reliable sources already in the article. Dream Focus 17:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


Given there have been pictures of the Mayor of London and myself shaking hands in dead-tree newspapers, should I have an article? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 19th October 2009, 5:30pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 19th October 2009, 1:10pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 19th October 2009, 9:58am) *

PS Is there a Simple Wikipedia version of the Shankbone article, too? ermm.gif

No, but there's a Latin one ... kinda! So his BLP is proliferating already - such is the way.


That is scary. I sorta imagine a Simple Wikipedia version of the Shank article could come with a .wav file of Peter Graves from "Airplane!" asking the kid if he ever saw a grown man naked. wacko.gif

Do you supoose you could limit your homophobic comments to only two per any thread regarding Shankbone, Benjiboi, or any other openly gay editor or subject? Even fewer would be better. Thanks! smile.gif
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 19th October 2009, 1:49pm) *

Do you supoose you could limit your homophobic comments to only two per any thread regarding Shankbone, Benjiboi, or any other openly gay editor or subject? Even fewer would be better. Thanks! smile.gif


Okay...but I guess that means I'll have to save my If-Shankbone-Was-In-Kenneth-Pinyan's-Place joke for another time. Bummer. unhappy.gif
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QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 19th October 2009, 5:10pm) *

No, but there's a Latin one ... kinda! So his BLP is proliferating already - such is the way.

Si solum omnes vicipaediae unus cervix habuerunt! dry.gif

That is, I wonder if his buddies care to remake a certain late-70s classic. Horsey can appear in a cameo!
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