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> Zoe vs. NIU, Was: Jimbo approves of vandalism!
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Well someone thinks so.

It all seemed so simple. I mean, why not try to get a man in trouble with his employer?

Well then again maybe not.
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Normally I agree with Zoe about nothing, but I liked the hard line on this issue. It would be good for people to get the message that this kind of thing is taken seriously by Wikipedia, and that abusing one's position in this manner can have real-world ramifications. I think it is unfortunate that we're sending the message that this kind of thing will be handled with only muted protest and no meaningful action. At this point, the professor may well indulge in this business with future classes, and even more importantly, others may take a liking to this method of undermining or discrediting Wikipedia and do something similar, in the absence of consequences.
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QUOTE(everyking @ Sun 28th January 2007, 2:11am) *

Normally I agree with Zoe about nothing, but I liked the hard line on this issue. It would be good for people to get the message that this kind of thing is taken seriously by Wikipedia, and that abusing one's position in this manner can have real-world ramifications. I think it is unfortunate that we're sending the message that this kind of thing will be handled with only muted protest and no meaningful action. At this point, the professor may well indulge in this business with future classes, and even more importantly, others may take a liking to this method of undermining or discrediting Wikipedia and do something similar, in the absence of consequences.


Other people pointed it out in the ANI thread though. Why this? Why now? Why the ferocity?

I don't like vandalism on Wikipedia, but at the same time...the response is grossly out of proportion for what happened. A reaction like this has never happened...at least to the best of my recollection in the past 2 years. I mean, I know emails go out to network admins everyonce in a while in order to tell people on their network to stop vandalizing. But to go up the chain of command? No.

I saw Zoe's deleted email subpage. She had emailed Pierce, his supervisor, the PR department, and finally the legal or ethics board. (The latter pretty much said "Have your lawyers contact us, or better yet consult one, since we're pretty sure nothing illegal has been done.")

There's hardline, and then there's harderline, EK. Vandalism hardline? Block the offenders. Harderline? Try to sabotoge a man's career, albeit failing miserably at it.

I've always disagreed with bringing conflicts on the internet into the real world. I've always viewed it as the unwritten contract between users on the internet.

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CrazyGameOfPoker   Zoe vs. NIU  
Somey   Well, they're certainly not going to get much ...  
Jonny Cache   Once again we have a bunch of rabid anonym-phone-m...  
gomi   Reading the ANI discussion (non-perma-link) on thi...  
Jonny Cache   Reading the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:...  
Lir   Right, because ignoring Zoe is a federal offense? ...  
Truth Man   The admin in question has [url=http://en.wikiped...  
Somey   She'll be extremely lucky if this doesn't...  
Lir   Wikipedia, the online Encyclopedia. Lol, because t...  
the fieryangel   by the ever-idiotic User:Moreschi. Oh, so so...  
everyking   [quote name='everyking' post='21630' date='Sun 28...  
Somey   If Wikipedians can do nasty anonymous writeups on ...  
Jonny Cache   Maybe I've been living in the Real World way t...  
Lir   contacting the legal office of the university cons...  
JohnA   I don't know what is more disturbing: Zoe...  
Elara   Well, sorry, but Jimbo's wrong on this one, an...  
Somey   Well, sorry, but Jimbo's wrong on this one, an...  
gomi   [quote name='Elara' post='21673' date='Sun 28th J...  
Somey   I suggest that, indeed a good "pillorying...  
gomi   I suggest that, indeed a good "pillorying...  
Lir   I guess what I'm saying is that Zoe should be ...  
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Somey' post='21691' date='Sun 28th J...  
taiwopanfob   Well, sorry, but Jimbo's wrong on this one, a...  
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Elara' post='21673' date='Sun 28th J...  
Elara   You know, if I wanted to show that Wikipedia is un...  
Somey   You know, if I wanted to show that Wikipedia is un...  
Jonny Cache   You know, if I wanted to show that Wikipedia is u...  
JohnA   You know, if I wanted to show that Wikipedia is ...  
a view from the hive   Argh, all this does is just create more of a rucku...  
LamontStormstar   Can someone find the diff where Jimbo encourages v...  
gomi   Can someone find the diff where Jimbo encourages ...  
Robert Roberts   Zoe seems to be gone - I've just looked at her...  
Somey   Zoe seems to be gone - I've just looked at her...  
Robert Roberts   Hi - just in case anyone is wondering - I have a c...  
Robert Roberts   This MONGO chap is a nice guy http://en.wikipedi...  
Somey   We should probably change the title to something l...  
Jonny Cache   We should probably change the title to something ...  
LamontStormstar   Jimbo said: How does this show support ...  
gomi   How does this show support of vandalism? I didn...  
CrazyGameOfPoker   How does this show support of vandalism? I didn...  
Robert Roberts   I think the funniest part was the way the universi...  
Somey   I'm not sure you can say they blew her off - e...  
Robert Roberts   I dunno that last email (the sub-page is was on ha...  
nobs   Typical response: slime the source.  
poopooball   zoe seems 2 hvae left wp over this. good riddnace...  
everyking   zoe seems 2 hvae left wp over this. good riddnac...  
Joseph100   zoe seems 2 hvae left wp over this. good riddna...  
gomi   Those clowns, over there at the wikipeida Star ch...  
Somey   Think disparagingly of Wikipedia, but don't si...  


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