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> Why did Citizendium fail?
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One of the worst things Sanger did was to start Citizendium. It failed, and Wikipedians now have a wonderful argument to add to their armoury. It failed, because of the policy on attracting experts. Ergo, crowdsourcing is the only way to build a comprehensive and reliable reference work.

Here are some reasons I think Citizendium failed:

1. There was only ever room for one Internet encyclopedia, for Google and 'network effect' reasons.

2. Experts have a limited attraction for any such project as this. I remember Larry claiming that when he advertised on the philosophy lists, philosophers would come flocking in. They didn't. I was working with one other philosopher (aka Mel Ititis on Wikipedia) at Citizendium. He left due to some petty dispute with Sanger, and I left not wanting to be the only philosopher.

3. Sanger was unspeakably rude to many of the participants.

4. After he realised that it would be hard to attract experts, the bars were lowered and all sorts of strange pondlife registered.

Just my thoughts. Or am I wrong? Is crowdsourcing the only real way to create a comprehensive and reliable reference work?
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Peter Damian   Why did Citizendium fail?  
Jon Awbrey   For answers to that, you might well review the amp...  
Eva Destruction   For answers to that, you might well review the am...  
Theanima   Plus, it had a ridiculous name... And "Wiki...  
Milton Roe   Plus, it had a ridiculous name... And "Wik...  
powercorrupts   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='272474' date='Sun ...  
Casliber   In this wonderful age of economic rationalism, the...  
Milton Roe   I speak of one who's had to nag and beg exper...  
Kelly Martin   furthermore, many experts are not overly enthusias...  
chrisoff   Agree completely with Casliber. Plus experts get...  
Casliber   Actually, six editors edited today...seems a bit b...  
Jon Awbrey   Way back when, I tried to sell Larry Sanger on the...  
Larry Sanger   One of the worst things Sanger did was to start C...  
Jon Awbrey   Proving once again that Denial is not just a river...  
powercorrupts   He still sees Citizendium in terms of having to ...  
thekohser   I asked Larry in 2006 whether I might come on boar...  
Emperor   Are there any plans to absorb CZ into Wikia?  
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Give it a new look and re-market it as "The W...  
WikiWatch   Give it a new look and re-market it as "The ...  
chrisoff   Well, wikipedia is trying to become all academic, ...  
Milton Roe   Well, wikipedia is trying to become all academic,...  
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Milton Roe   [quote name='Milton Roe' post='272717' date='Thu ...  
Casliber   furthermore, many experts are not overly enthusia...  
Milton Roe   The same can/could be done of most medical diagno...  
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powercorrupts   Remember when Rush was just a band? Jon :P Sad...  
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