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Despite umpteen threats to "leave", the last one that Malleus won't edit an article again until his demands are met.

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I won't be returning to editing articles until User:Georgewilliamherbert puts his money where his mouth is with respect to his threat to take User:Mkativerata to ArbCom for unblocking me, during which investigation I hope that [[User:Kaldari]]'s behaviour will also come under scrutiny.

I'll wait as long as it takes. It's time for George to walk the walk, no more empty threats.


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And now "Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Civility enforcement" is officially opened

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And now "Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Civility enforcement" is officially opened
Civility is how one shows respect; if one is forced to be civil toward those who do not deserve it, then civility itself loses all meaning.
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Thu 29th December 2011, 11:06am) *

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And now "Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Civility enforcement" is officially opened
Civility is how one shows respect; if one is forced to be civil toward those who do not deserve it, then civility itself loses all meaning.


I miss when civility meant to wear the proper clothes, drink tea the correct way, and to use proper grammar when speaking.
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 1st January 2012, 4:29pm) *

QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Thu 29th December 2011, 11:06am) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Thu 29th December 2011, 9:54am) *

And now "Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Civility enforcement" is officially opened
Civility is how one shows respect; if one is forced to be civil toward those who do not deserve it, then civility itself loses all meaning.


I miss when civility meant to wear the proper clothes, drink tea the correct way, and to use proper grammar when speaking.


How would you know? You aren't old enough to have seen it first-hand.
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Yes, but what is the proper way when you are dealing with many cultures? I have my tea with no milk, and I put the sugar cube in my mouth and then drink the tea. I regard that as proper.


Don't edit when you're drunk. And don't use words that a fair number of people consider sexist, racist, etc.

Strange that Malleus only uses sexist and sexual slurs. He never calls anyone a "nigger". But I guess he would if he felt like it. But it doesn't fit his needs, I guess.
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QUOTE(chrisoff @ Tue 3rd January 2012, 4:26am) *

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Yes, but what is the proper way when you are dealing with many cultures? I have my tea with no milk, and I put the sugar cube in my mouth and then drink the tea. I regard that as proper.


Don't edit when you're drunk. And don't use words that a fair number of people consider sexist, racist, etc.

Strange that Malleus only uses sexist and sexual slurs. He never calls anyone a "nigger". But I guess he would if he felt like it. But it doesn't fit his needs, I guess.

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In this specific case though the only thing I regret is having called [[User:Spitfire]] a "fucking cunt" in response to a comment he made in the aftermath of my indefinite block. That was clearly wrong of me, no matter what he had said. [[User:Malleus Fatuorum|Malleus]] [[User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum|Fatuorum]] 22:25, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

So, I really do not know what this arbitration case is for now.
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Mon 2nd January 2012, 11:39pm) *

I really do not know what this arbitration case is for now.


One would hope that this case shall conclude with ArbCom either disavowing or affirming the tactics of the admins in Wikipedia's civility police. That is, however, not what I expect to happen.

I do expect ArbCom to use this case to desysop Hawkeye7 for re-blocking Malleus after the unblock.
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QUOTE(Ego Trippin' (Part Two) @ Tue 3rd January 2012, 4:56am) *


I do expect ArbCom to use this case to desysop Hawkeye7 for re-blocking Malleus after the unblock.

They might, but this will be very wrong.
Yes, Hawkeye7 said there was a consensus, where there was none, but that's about it.
He was not involved as some are trying to present it.
He was not wheel-warring. He blocked Malleus over "You are so much a fucking cunt Spitfire.", the post that Malleus made after the first unblock.
I would not say, if Hawkeye7 was right or wrong but he not misused the tools.
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He was not wheel-warring. He blocked Malleus over "You are so much a fucking cunt Spitfire.", the post that Malleus made after the first unblock.


I think this does a pretty damn good job of discrediting that line of thinking. And it is in ArbCom's interests to enforce the "bright-line rule" which prohibits wheel-warring.

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QUOTE(Ego Trippin' (Part Two) @ Tue 3rd January 2012, 3:31pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 3rd January 2012, 12:28am) *

He was not wheel-warring. He blocked Malleus over "You are so much a fucking cunt Spitfire.", the post that Malleus made after the first unblock.


I think this does a pretty damn good job of discrediting that line of thinking. And it is in ArbCom's interests to enforce the "bright-line rule" which prohibits wheel-warring.


I think if he'd been clear about blocking over the new "cunt," he'd be fine. As it was with him not being clear (or retroactively trying to find a reason), he'll probably feel the wrath and loose the tools. And the whole wheel-warring stigma is idiotic. A stupid admin action is a stupid action, whether it comes first or second.
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