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Posted by: thekohser
Brandweek - lifestyle special issue
http://teens.adweek.com/aw/content_display/special-issues/lifestyle-special/e3i9b820010dbb05bb54a05c841528d8ed0
Aug 29, 2010
- Mike Chapman
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What quality do you most value in your friends?
Loyalty. Those who stick by you through thick and thin.
Loyalty. Those who stick by you through thick and thin.
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What are you reading at the moment?
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
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What's your favorite restaurant?
The little pizza joint across the street from me in Florida. My daughter and I go there, eat pizza and read about warrior cats.
Location of possible pizza joints http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=&q=pizza&sll=28.021151,-82.776146&sspn=0.026368,0.038581&gl=us&ie=UTF8&radius=1.41&split=1&rq=1&ev=zo&hq=pizza&hnear=&z=15, in Dunedin, Florida
The little pizza joint across the street from me in Florida. My daughter and I go there, eat pizza and read about warrior cats.
Location of possible pizza joints http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=&q=pizza&sll=28.021151,-82.776146&sspn=0.026368,0.038581&gl=us&ie=UTF8&radius=1.41&split=1&rq=1&ev=zo&hq=pizza&hnear=&z=15, in Dunedin, Florida
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What's your guilty pleasure?
Eating the Pringles from the hotel mini-bar.
Eating the Pringles from the hotel mini-bar.
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All-time favorite book:
The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand
The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand
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All-time favorite movie:
Touch of Evil (1958)
Touch of Evil (1958)
Posted by: Jon Awbrey
Notable Quotables — “While you're up, get me a Dewar's Grant.â€
Jon 
Posted by: The Joy
What's funny is that Jimbo complains when negative aspects of his private life come to public attention as he is a "private citizen," but then he does all these public interviews. 
You can either be a public figure or a private citizen. You can't be both! 
Posted by: NuclearWarfare
QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 30th August 2010, 4:24pm) 
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What are you reading at the moment?
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
That's...interesting. I wonder why he is reading that.
Posted by: Alison
QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Mon 30th August 2010, 6:23pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 30th August 2010, 4:24pm)
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What are you reading at the moment?
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
That's...interesting. I wonder why he is reading that.
Because his daughter is?
(BTW - the thread title caught me for a moment. Thank goodness it wasn't literal!
)
Posted by: powercorrupts
QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 31st August 2010, 2:49am)
QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Mon 30th August 2010, 6:23pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 30th August 2010, 4:24pm)
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What are you reading at the moment?
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
That's...interesting. I wonder why he is reading that.
Because his daughter is?
(BTW - the thread title caught me for a moment. Thank goodness it wasn't literal!
)I'd rather see his ginger balls than read him randomize about his daily life.
Posted by: Moulton
QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Mon 30th August 2010, 10:05pm)
QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 31st August 2010, 2:49am)
(BTW - the thread title caught me for a moment. Thank goodness it wasn't literal! )
I'd rather see his ginger balls than read him randomize about his daily life. )Wales is Welsh. He's not a red-headed kilt-wearing Scot.
Posted by: powercorrupts
QUOTE(Moulton @ Tue 31st August 2010, 3:09am)
QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Mon 30th August 2010, 10:05pm)
QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 31st August 2010, 2:49am)
(BTW - the thread title caught me for a moment. Thank goodness it wasn't literal! )
I'd rather see his ginger balls than read him randomize about his daily life. )Wales is Welsh. He's not a red-headed kilt-wearing Scot.
Good valley's name, "Jimbo".
The wacky thing is - he's Irish (of the polystyrene variety).
What was that about moratoriums, favouritism etc etc?
Can the world ever be peaceful with Wikipedia around?
Posted by: Moulton
QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Mon 30th August 2010, 10:14pm)
Can the world ever be peaceful with Wikipedia around?
If you want peace, work for justice.
Posted by: anthony
QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 30th August 2010, 4:24pm)
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What quality do you most value in your friends?
Loyalty. Those who stick by you through thick and thin.
Loyalty. Those who stick by you through thick and thin.
LOL. Now they should interview his former friends and ask them why he'd say that.
Posted by: everyking
We all know that, according to Jimbo's Objectivist views, things like altruism and charity are morally wrong. But another question occurs to me. How would Rand have felt about someone falsely using the ideas of altruism and charity to exploit people and pursue one's own self-interest? What is the Objectivist position on charlatans?
Posted by: anthony
QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 31st August 2010, 4:19am)
We all know that, according to Jimbo's Objectivist views, things like altruism and charity are morally wrong.
Neither Jimbo nor Objectivism have a problem with charity.
QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 31st August 2010, 4:19am)
But another question occurs to me. How would Rand have felt about someone falsely using the ideas of altruism and charity to exploit people and pursue one's own self-interest?
She probably would have said that was impossible.
Posted by: everyking
QUOTE(anthony @ Tue 31st August 2010, 5:24am)
Neither Jimbo nor Objectivism have a problem with charity.
You'll have to explain it to me more thoroughly, then. Where is the distinction between altruism and charity? Isn't charity just an expression of altruism?
QUOTE(anthony @ Tue 31st August 2010, 5:24am)
She probably would have said that was impossible.
Again, I don't follow. How can it impossible to falsely use the idea for selfish gain?
Posted by: Somey
QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Mon 30th August 2010, 8:23pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 30th August 2010, 4:24pm)
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What are you reading at the moment?
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
I'd say he's going a little out of his way to point out that he's reading these books, with his daughter, in a local pizza parlor no less - IOW, "look at me, I'm spending quality time with my kid, teaching her the joys of reading, so surely I can't be guilty of promoting a website that threatens the survival of the publishing industry As We Know It, and coincidentally has been carrying numerous pornographic images of children, in some cases over my own objections."
It's not like he's getting her to read Cult of the Amateur either, is it?
Posted by: Somey
QUOTE(anthony @ Mon 30th August 2010, 11:24pm)
Neither Jimbo nor Objectivism have a problem with charity.
Of course not - how can you have a problem with something you never even think about? However, charity does have a problem with them.
QUOTE(anthony @ Mon 30th August 2010, 11:24pm)
QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 31st August 2010, 4:19am)
How would Rand have felt about someone falsely using the ideas of altruism and charity to exploit people and pursue one's own self-interest?
She probably would have said that was impossible.Again, correct - since Rand considered altruism and charity to be false concepts in and of themselves, Rand probably would have considered it impossible to "use them falsely." That would be sort of a double-negative, I guess.
Posted by: Kelly Martin
Jimbo does certainly value loyalty: he expects people to be unthinkingly and unswervingly loyal to him, while at the same time offering no loyalty to anyone else whatsoever.
Posted by: anthony
QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 31st August 2010, 5:07am)
QUOTE(anthony @ Tue 31st August 2010, 5:24am)
Neither Jimbo nor Objectivism have a problem with charity.
You'll have to explain it to me more thoroughly, then. Where is the distinction between altruism and charity? Isn't charity just an expression of altruism?
As I understand it, charity is helping others, while altruism is hurting yourself in order to help others. For Rand's view of charity, see http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=faq_index#obj_q7.
QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 31st August 2010, 5:07am)
QUOTE(anthony @ Tue 31st August 2010, 5:24am)
She probably would have said that was impossible.
Again, I don't follow. How can it impossible to falsely use the idea for selfish gain?
This message board is probably not a good venue for me to explain that. Fortunately, my comment was not that it is impossible, but that Rand probably would have said it was. She held honesty to be a virtue, and the practice of virtues to be in ones self-interest.
Posted by: everyking
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 31st August 2010, 6:45am)
Jimbo does certainly value loyalty: he expects people to be unthinkingly and unswervingly loyal to him, while at the same time offering no loyalty to anyone else whatsoever.
Of course, people who will stand with him no matter what horrible stuff he does. "Reliable accomplices" is the phrase that springs to mind.
Posted by: EricBarbour
QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 31st August 2010, 12:24am)
"Reliable accomplices" is the phrase that springs to mind.
For me, not so much. More like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 31st August 2010, 3:24am)
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 31st August 2010, 6:45am)
Jimbo does certainly value loyalty: he expects people to be unthinkingly and unswervingly loyal to him, while at the same time offering no loyalty to anyone else whatsoever.
Of course, people who will stand with him no matter what horrible stuff he does. "Reliable accomplices" is the phrase that springs to mind.
I think the word is "fealty".
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 31st August 2010, 1:25am)
QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Mon 30th August 2010, 8:23pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 30th August 2010, 4:24pm)
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What are you reading at the moment?
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.
I'd say he's going a little out of his way to point out that he's reading these books, with his daughter, in a local pizza parlor no less - IOW, "look at me, I'm spending quality time with my kid, teaching her the joys of reading, so surely I can't be guilty of promoting a website that threatens the survival of the publishing industry As We Know It, and coincidentally has been carrying numerous pornographic images of children, in some cases over my own objections."
It's not like he's getting her to read Cult of the Amateur either, is it?
Kira is either 9 or 10 years old. She knows how to read. In fact, she's read many more of the Warriors series than has Jimbo. So, exactly how do two people who know how to read "spend quality time" reading books that the younger person has already read? Are they reading aloud to each other? My hunch is that maybe -- MAYBE -- Kira is reading aloud to her father. However, it's equally possible that they are just sitting there with their pizza, each with their nose in a different book in the Warriors series, quietly reading to themselves.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 31st August 2010, 6:33am)
I think the word is "fealty".
Believe it or not, some Wikibooks administrators and checkusers are http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thekohser&diff=1924372&oldid=1924303 that term.
Posted by: Moulton
http://knol.google.com/k/barry-kort/apostasy-and-emunah/3iyoslgwsp412/7#
Fealty and Treason were a big deal in the Age of the Monarchy, back in Medieval Times.
Jimbo is still living in a Medieval Culture (of his own making).
No doubt he is crestfallen when one of his loyal sycophants http://knol.google.com/k/barry-kort/apostasy-and-emunah/3iyoslgwsp412/7# from him.
Posted by: anthony
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 31st August 2010, 11:54am)
My hunch is that maybe -- MAYBE -- Kira is reading aloud to her father. However, it's equally possible that they are just sitting there with their pizza, each with their nose in a different book in the Warriors series, quietly reading to themselves.
You're giving him way too much credit for honesty. Kira reads "Warriors". Jimbo goes across the street and gets pizza. After this goes on for a few months, Jimbo starts reading the series too, to try to figure out what it is about the book that his daughter finds so much more interesting than him.
Posted by: Abd
QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 30th August 2010, 10:27pm)
QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Mon 30th August 2010, 10:14pm)
Can the world ever be peaceful with Wikipedia around?
If you want peace, work for justice.Obviously, an unjust peace is unstable. But that condition is necessary to begin to establish justice.
And here I'm tempted to go into an examination of this issue from the point of view of classical Islamic shari'a, settled religious law. The modern problem with "terrorism" represents a gross violation of shari'a, involving sectarian affliliation and disruptive action without the consensus of the community, and without authorization by the "khalifa" (two alternate sources of possible community decision-making). It is no coincidence that the problems have been strongest among the wahabiyya, a modern imitation of an earlier Kharijite community that rejected classical law and substituted their own "fundamentalist" imaginings, that considers everyone else (the majority!) heretical and to be killed when possible.
Sure, work for justice. But be sure to do so consistently with the need for all people for peace.
Posted by: The Adversary
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 31st August 2010, 11:54am)
Kira is either 9 or 10 years old. She knows how to read. In fact, she's read many more of the Warriors series than has Jimbo. So, exactly how do two people who know how to read "spend quality time" reading books that the younger person has already read? Are they reading aloud to each other? My hunch is that maybe -- MAYBE -- Kira is reading aloud to her father. However, it's equally possible that they are just sitting there with their pizza, each with their nose in a different book in the Warriors series, quietly reading to themselves.
Come on. This is not fair.Greetings, from one who loved to sit on her fathers lap and being read to, for several years after she had learned to read.
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 31st August 2010, 5:45am)
Jimbo does certainly value loyalty: he expects people to be unthinkingly and unswervingly loyal to him, while at the same time offering no loyalty to anyone else whatsoever.
Spot on, I suspect.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(The Adversary @ Tue 31st August 2010, 12:37pm)
Come on. This is not fair.Life isn't fair. Look, I'm happy that Jimbo's at least reading. If it's children's books, so be it. It's more palatable than chat transcripts with Rachel Marsden. Poor Kira when she discovers those.
Posted by: Moulton
QUOTE(Abd @ Tue 31st August 2010, 12:20pm)
QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 30th August 2010, 10:27pm)
QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Mon 30th August 2010, 10:14pm)
Can the world ever be peaceful with Wikipedia around?
If you want peace, work for justice.Abd, if you want justice, work for http://www.musenet.org/orenda/mirth.html.
It's hard to be at war when you're laughing your ass off.
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 31st August 2010, 1:04pm)
QUOTE(The Adversary @ Tue 31st August 2010, 12:37pm)
Come on. This is not fair.Life isn't fair. Look, I'm happy that Jimbo's at least reading. If it's children's books, so be it. It's more palatable than chat transcripts with Rachel Marsden. Poor Kira when she discovers those.
Greg Kohs once again manages to give the Jimbo Juicers a perfectly good reason for dismissing any sensible criticism he makes (and anyone else who sees the sense in the criticism). Special blog at 1:45AM!
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 31st August 2010, 2:08pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 31st August 2010, 1:04pm)
QUOTE(The Adversary @ Tue 31st August 2010, 12:37pm)
Come on. This is not fair.Life isn't fair. Look, I'm happy that Jimbo's at least reading. If it's children's books, so be it. It's more palatable than chat transcripts with Rachel Marsden. Poor Kira when she discovers those.
Greg Kohs once again manages to give the Jimbo Juicers a perfectly good reason for dismissing any sensible criticism he makes (and anyone else who sees the sense in the criticism). Special blog at 1:45AM!
Thank you, thank you very much. I'm here through Thursday. Try the meatloaf.
Posted by: Somey
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 31st August 2010, 12:04pm)
...Poor Kira when she discovers those.
Actually, has anyone ever published anything regarding the effects of widespread, easily-accessible public criticism (or for that matter, sex-chat transcripts) on the children of people being criticized? Not to mention widespread, easily-accessible public praise, facile and poorly-researched though it may be.
I suspect Kira is in a rather unusual situation, or will be when she's old enough to start making her own decisions. As a Randian objectivist, Jimbo is unlikely to provide much financial support for her at that point - right now, he can probably just say things like "those people don't like what Daddy does for a living," and get away with it. Later on she might start asking, "why don't they?" ...followed by "what's a 'troll'?" ...followed by "isn't that what you do?"
Posted by: Moulton
Terry Gross, host of NPR's Fresh Air, has on occasion interviewed authors who did research on their parents or other ancestors, including cases where the parent or ancestor has, shall we say, a "checkered past."
Then again, someone who is mature enough to research and write a book like that might not be the general example you're looking for.
Posted by: everyking
It is a sad, sad statement on the Wikipedia community that it has never gotten rid of Jimbo Wales. It's remarkable to me that now, in 2010, Jimbo is still around, while the project itself is stagnating quite badly. I thought at one time that such a vibrant project with so much potential would surely jettison Jimbo--who is so obviously a useless and unprincipled opportunist--in relatively short order, once it matured to a certain point. Instead I'm starting to wonder if the project will sink and Jimbo will still be sitting there when it does.
Posted by: Moulton
My theory — and associated prediction — is that Jimbo's reliance on Monarchial Bill of Attainder (and WikiCulture's extension of that to Parliamentary Bill of Attainder) will sink the project. Bill of Attainder is arguably the most corrosive and corrupting tool of government ever to have been devised by a misguided God-King.
Posted by: thekohser
I'd like to apologize to Jimmy Wales and to Kira Wales for the commentary I published on this thread. If the moderators would please remove my comments (and copies of those comments) from the thread, I think that would go a long way toward showing that I really harbor no personal animosity or threatening posture toward Miss Wales.
Barring that, at the very least, I can remove my own comments after some short amount of time, and also ask if others who quoted my comments might remove them from their own posts.
Posted by: Vigilant
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 21st February 2012, 6:54pm)
I'd like to apologize to Jimmy Wales and to Kira Wales for the commentary I published on this thread. If the moderators would please remove my comments (and copies of those comments) from the thread, I think that would go a long way toward showing that I really harbor no personal animosity or threatening posture toward Miss Wales.
Barring that, at the very least, I can remove my own comments after some short amount of time, and also ask if others who quoted my comments might remove them from their own posts.
Way to man the fuck up.
Posted by: Selina
Thank you - I'll let one of the other mods deal with this since I'm trying to keep hands-off on arguments I'm involved in
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 21st February 2012, 1:54pm)
Barring that, at the very least, I can remove my own comments after some short amount of time, and also ask if others who quoted my comments might remove them from their own posts.
As it turns out, the threads are far too old, so we don't have the ability to Edit our own posts.
Posted by: Selina
(Mod note: Offtopic discussion about http://wikipediareview.com/?showtopic=36796 moved to previous thread by Zoloft)
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 21st February 2012, 2:49pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 21st February 2012, 1:54pm)
Barring that, at the very least, I can remove my own comments after some short amount of time, and also ask if others who quoted my comments might remove them from their own posts.
As it turns out, the threads are far too old, so we don't have the ability to Edit our own posts.
You know, I went through and tagged the ones that would be removed (and actually the first one was Somey's, not yours), and then realized that rewriting history is just a stupid thing to try to do.
Maybe the wikipediots will see things differently, but honestly I'd rather see a mistake and an apology than a coverup without an apology.
And for the record, my daughter is also enthralled by the "Warriors" books... I also answer to "Bramblestar", if you get tired of calling me "Johnny"
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Posted by: Selina
Awwwwwhhhhh... I was thinking earier when I saw that thing about Jimbo how anyone can truly hate anyone that reads books about kittens with swords to their children
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(Selina @ Tue 21st February 2012, 8:35pm)
Awwwwwhhhhh... I was thinking earier when I saw that thing about Jimbo how anyone can truly hate anyone that reads books about kittens with swords to their children
No swords involved actually. The books are pretty violent in their own way: cats die in horrible ways, which is pretty rough for a little girl who has gotten to know them over the course of several books.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 21st February 2012, 8:27pm)
And for the record, my daughter is also enthralled by the "Warriors" books...
Does she like pizza? How about reading them together at a pizza parlor? Do you frequently fly to London?
Posted by: lilburne
QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 22nd February 2012, 5:33am)
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 21st February 2012, 8:27pm)
And for the record, my daughter is also enthralled by the "Warriors" books...
Does she like pizza? How about reading them together at a pizza parlor? Do you frequently fly to London?
OTOH If you are looking for an excuse not to do the right thing ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=429217857
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(lilburne @ Wed 22nd February 2012, 4:35pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 22nd February 2012, 5:33am)
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 21st February 2012, 8:27pm)
And for the record, my daughter is also enthralled by the "Warriors" books...
Does she like pizza? How about reading them together at a pizza parlor? Do you frequently fly to London?
OTOH If you are looking for an excuse not to do the right thing ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=429217857
Maybe Tarc will break Jimbo's neck like a chicken bone?
But in all seriousness, that article on Wikipedia is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Infanta_Leonor_of_Spain&oldid=475939662, for content as detailed as this:
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Birth
Infanta Leonor was born at 1:46 am in the Ruber International Clinic in Madrid by means of a caesarean section necessitated by non-progression of labour. Infanta Leonor weighed 3.5 kg (7 lbs. 11 oz.) and was 47 cm (18.5 inches) long. Her birth was announced by the Royal Family to the press via SMS. Leonor left the Ruber Clinic with her parents on 7 November 2005.
Baptism
The Infanta was baptised in the Zarzuela Palace by the Cardinal Archbishop of Madrid, Antonio Rouco Varela, on 14 January 2006. Like her father in 1968, Leonor was baptised with water from the river Jordan, following the Spanish Royal Family tradition. She was also given the additional names of de Todos los Santos (of All the Saints), a Bourbon tradition. Her godparents were her paternal grandparents, Their Majesties King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia of Spain.
The Spanish Royal House confirmed on 25 February 2006 that stem cells from Princess Leonor's umbilical cord have been frozen and stored at a blood bank in Tucson, Arizona. A spokesman said this is "habitual practice" at the clinic where Leonor was born. The stem cells will be frozen for at least 15 years, along with cells from 18,000 other babies around the world. Leonor is not the first royal baby to have her stem cells frozen; Prince Christian of Denmark has had his stem cells frozen as well.
Schooling
Infanta Leonor began her education at the daycare for the children of the Spanish Royal Guard.
She began her first year of real schooling on 15 September 2008 at the Santa MarÃa de los Rosales School in Aravaca, just outside Madrid. Her father is an alumnus of the school.
Infanta Leonor was born at 1:46 am in the Ruber International Clinic in Madrid by means of a caesarean section necessitated by non-progression of labour. Infanta Leonor weighed 3.5 kg (7 lbs. 11 oz.) and was 47 cm (18.5 inches) long. Her birth was announced by the Royal Family to the press via SMS. Leonor left the Ruber Clinic with her parents on 7 November 2005.
Baptism
The Infanta was baptised in the Zarzuela Palace by the Cardinal Archbishop of Madrid, Antonio Rouco Varela, on 14 January 2006. Like her father in 1968, Leonor was baptised with water from the river Jordan, following the Spanish Royal Family tradition. She was also given the additional names of de Todos los Santos (of All the Saints), a Bourbon tradition. Her godparents were her paternal grandparents, Their Majesties King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia of Spain.
The Spanish Royal House confirmed on 25 February 2006 that stem cells from Princess Leonor's umbilical cord have been frozen and stored at a blood bank in Tucson, Arizona. A spokesman said this is "habitual practice" at the clinic where Leonor was born. The stem cells will be frozen for at least 15 years, along with cells from 18,000 other babies around the world. Leonor is not the first royal baby to have her stem cells frozen; Prince Christian of Denmark has had his stem cells frozen as well.
Schooling
Infanta Leonor began her education at the daycare for the children of the Spanish Royal Guard.
She began her first year of real schooling on 15 September 2008 at the Santa MarÃa de los Rosales School in Aravaca, just outside Madrid. Her father is an alumnus of the school.
Can you imagine the outcry if the general location of her pizza parlor outings with her father were disclosed?
Where are you Tarc? Shouldn't this be deleted from Wikipedia??!?!
Posted by: TungstenCarbide
QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 22nd February 2012, 9:40pm)
... Maybe Tarc will break Jimbo's neck like a chicken bone? ...
Tarc, you will never live this down, even if you live to be a hundred.
Posted by: Tarc
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Wed 22nd February 2012, 5:08pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 22nd February 2012, 9:40pm)
... Maybe Tarc will break Jimbo's neck like a chicken bone? ...
Tarc, you will never live this down, even if you live to be a hundred.
I gave Kohs a very simple logical condition; if A is true, then B will result.
What exactly do I have to "live down" ?
Posted by: Vigilant
QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 23rd February 2012, 12:32am)
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Wed 22nd February 2012, 5:08pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 22nd February 2012, 9:40pm)
... Maybe Tarc will break Jimbo's neck like a chicken bone? ...
Tarc, you will never live this down, even if you live to be a hundred.
I gave Kohs a very simple logical condition; if A is true, then B will result.
What exactly do I have to "live down" ?
I'm thinking about asking Selina to change my username to BreakYourNeckLikeAChickenBone
Posted by: thekohser
By the way, Jimbo has apparently moved onto http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-02/22/what-jimmy-learned.
Posted by: Selina
Is it possible at all you could be less creepy? :/
Posted by: Kelly Martin
QUOTE(Selina @ Fri 24th February 2012, 11:51am)
Is it possible at all you could be less creepy? :/
I think a lot of the creepy here is coming from Jimmy. Don't shoot the messenger.Posted by: Selina
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What keeps you awake at night?
Let me be really simple about this: the baby! She's nearly a year old now, and she went through this astounding lovely period of sleeping through the night but now she's back to her old ways.
That's creepy? He sounds like any other happy parent to me? Definitely not creepier than "By the way Jimbo posted the personal sleep habits of his youngest daughter, and I notice that kind of stuff, here's a link [http://youtu.be/z2__XAMij5U!]" :/Let me be really simple about this: the baby! She's nearly a year old now, and she went through this astounding lovely period of sleeping through the night but now she's back to her old ways.
For all http://wikipediareview.com/showtopic=36689&view=findpost&p=296765, I don't think that kind of thing really helps provide any criticism of Wikipedia or even the WMF really? It just sounds... ick.
It just gives the impression of criticism being because of a personal vendetta/obsession and harms the ideal of criticism being taken seriously than just "ah, they're just trolling" - even if you don't beieve in constructive criticism to try create some kind of change, it's not very good for criticising why Wikipedia is bad and should be destroyed etc either, because most people reading WR can't take personality-fixation seriously, for the same reason no one takes the occasional cultist-like obsessed follower of Jimbo seriously either... It's just the flip side of the coin...
Posted by: radek
QUOTE(Selina @ Fri 24th February 2012, 1:48pm)
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What keeps you awake at night?
Let me be really simple about this: the baby! She's nearly a year old now, and she went through this astounding lovely period of sleeping through the night but now she's back to her old ways.
That's creepy? He sounds like any other happy parent to me? Definitely not creepier than "By the way Jimbo posted the personal sleep habits of his youngest daughter, and I notice that kind of stuff, here's a link [http://youtu.be/z2__XAMij5U!]" :/Let me be really simple about this: the baby! She's nearly a year old now, and she went through this astounding lovely period of sleeping through the night but now she's back to her old ways.
For all http://wikipediareview.com/showtopic=36689&view=findpost&p=296765, I don't think that kind of thing really helps provide any criticism of Wikipedia or even the WMF really? It just sounds... ick.
It just gives the impression of criticism being because of a personal vendetta/obsession and harms the ideal of criticism being taken seriously than just "ah, they're just trolling" - even if you don't beieve in constructive criticism to try create some kind of change, it's not very good for criticising why Wikipedia is bad and should be destroyed etc either, because most people reading WR can't take personality-fixation seriously, for the same reason no one takes the occasional cultist-like obsessed follower of Jimbo seriously either... It's just the flip side of the coin...
I agree with that. If someone asks someone "what keeps you up at night" and the response is "my kids!" that's something that any parent with young kids can relate to. Nothing creepy about it. The response is obviously more of a "I'm just a regular guy" kind.
Posted by: lilburne
QUOTE(radek @ Fri 24th February 2012, 8:36pm)
I agree with that. If someone asks someone "what keeps you up at night" and the response is "my kids!" that's something that any parent with young kids can relate to. Nothing creepy about it. The response is obviously more of a "I'm just a regular guy" kind.
A fellow I knew that followed the shenanigans of a nuisance poster on USENET, regularly sent links or updates on the nuisance's latest idiocy, but as time past the updates just seemed to be more like stalking and an unhealthy obsession. I think we need to remind ourselves that we shouldn't turn into "THAT GUY!"
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(radek @ Fri 24th February 2012, 8:36pm)
I agree with that. If someone asks someone "what keeps you up at night" and the response is "my kids!" that's something that any parent with young kids can relate to. Nothing creepy about it. The response is obviously more of a "I'm just a regular guy" kind.
Posted by: EricBarbour
Agreed. This smells, ever so slightly, like a publicity whitewash. "Lookit me, I'm just a regular taxpaying baby-maker."
Wales's past history is http://jimmy-wales-scaring-children.tumblr.com/ with this stuff. As you might recall, he has one other child,
who was not waved around in public in this manner.
He is doing it to engender sympathy, probably at the suggestion of WMF people charged with
improving his tattered public image. As if letting Wikipedia go to shit at the same time could be
"validated" with his new baby.
For anyone who doesn't think Jimbo is creepy, look thru his http://jimmywales.com/ for a while.
Gee, he sure spends a lot of time babbling about Wikia. The Great Lion Of Free Culture wants to make
a quick and dirty buck.
That said, enough said.
Posted by: thekohser
http://zigzagzine.com/ZZZ.MJ09.pdf about the time when Jimmy Wales met Jimmy Carter. Pretty cool story! Well-written, for a novice journalist.
Posted by: Selina
Seriously, you're stalking an 8 year old and posting creepy comments about babies, what possible benefit do you think that has for criticism of Wikipedia? You actually harm yourself more than anyone. -.- But I can tell you're too far gone you've obsessed for so many years it can only tear yourself away from children after some kind of intervention or something I guess, one of these days you're probably going to find a FBI van skidding up outside your drive Gregory Kohs ... Cos if any law enforcement got around to reading through you stuff, you sound like a case for whatever the US equivalent is of the Fixated Threat Assessment Centre (T-H-L-K-D) - you haven't been getting any better, just increasingly more and more weird semi-threatening comments as the years have gone past.
I agree that the supporting Wikia so much is creepy when it's one of the biggest reasons for content being killed off on Wikipedia that he supposedly supports - as per my link from what I said, too, before ( I linked it in the above post http://wikipediareview.com/?showtopic=36689&view=findpost&p=296765 ) - but why not just say that?
How do you think normal people outside the world of Wikipedia reading all that stuff will think? Do you think they'd think worse of Wikipedia, or of you? *sigh* I'm just glad there's plenty of sane people here too and really hope people don't assume everyone on WR is like that.
That's just my opinion...
Posted by: standixon
QUOTE(Selina @ Sat 25th February 2012, 6:18pm)
Seriously, you're stalking an 8 year old and posting creepy comments about babies, what possible benefit do you think that has for criticism of Wikipedia? You actually harm yourself more than anyone. -.- But I can tell you're too far gone you've obsessed for so many years it can only tear yourself away from children after some kind of intervention or something I guess, one of these days you're probably going to find a FBI van skidding up outside your drive Gregory Kohs ... Cos if any law enforcement got around to reading through you stuff, you sound like a case for whatever the US equivalent is of the Fixated Threat Assessment Centre (T-H-L-K-D) - you haven't been getting any better, just increasingly more and more weird semi-threatening comments as the years have gone past.
I agree that the supporting Wikia so much is creepy when it's one of the biggest reasons for content being killed off on Wikipedia that he supposedly supports - as per my link from what I said, too, before ( I linked it in the above post http://wikipediareview.com/?showtopic=36689&view=findpost&p=296765 ) - but why not just say that?
How do you think normal people outside the world of Wikipedia reading all that stuff will think? Do you think they'd think worse of Wikipedia, or of you? *sigh* I'm just glad there's plenty of sane people here too and really hope people don't assume everyone on WR is like that.
That's just my opinion...
Have you, Selina, come across the saying "It's better to seem a fool by keeping your mouth shut than to prove you're one by opening it!"?
If only it was possible to put functionaries on ignore!
Posted by: Selina
Not my design, that is a shame, I have no desire to talk to you. It seems coming from someone like you, that's high praise - thank you.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(Selina @ Sat 25th February 2012, 1:18pm)
...you're probably going to find a FBI van skidding up outside your drive Gregory Kohs...
That's just my opinion...
Pretty cool how you threaten by using my real name and real law enforcement, when you hide behind your cowardly shield of anonymity.
Selina, I confidently invite you to contact the FBI about me. Their tip line is very easy to find. Go ahead. Give 'em a laugh.
Posted by: Selina
That wasn't a threat as you know damn well I'm not even from america, it was an attempt to warn you what a path like that will probably end on, seriously, please, just take a moment and read through your posts and try imagine how that reads to other people?
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(Selina @ Sun 26th February 2012, 12:07pm)
That wasn't a threat as you know damn well I'm not even from america, it was an attempt to warn you what a path like that will probably end on, seriously, please, just take a moment and read through your posts and try imagine how that reads to other people?
I find it interesting that Jimmy Wales' daughter and (now ex-) wife were invited by Jimmy Carter to fly on the helicopter Carter was co-piloting to the private island owned by a multi-billionaire. I'm sure others also find that interesting, too. You seem to be the only one who thinks sharing that publicly self-published information is "creepy".
Posted by: Selina
QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 30th August 2010, 4:24pm)
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What's your favorite restaurant?
The little pizza joint across the street from me in Florida. My daughter and I go there, eat pizza and read about warrior cats.
The little pizza joint across the street from me in Florida. My daughter and I go there, eat pizza and read about warrior cats.
Location of possible pizza joints http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=&q=pizza&sll=28.021151,-82.776146&sspn=0.026368,0.038581&gl=us&ie=UTF8&radius=1.41&split=1&rq=1&ev=zo&hq=pizza&hnear=&z=15, in Dunedin, Florida
Do you really think anyone believes that you have anything other than creepy motives in constantly, constantly, obsessing about an 8-11 year old child for years?
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=33811&hl=kira&view=findpost&p=275762
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?act=ST&f=92&t=29783&hl=kira&view=findpost&p=240286
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?act=ST&f=70&t=27420&hl=kira&view=findpost&p=206011
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?act=ST&f=23&t=35838&hl=kira&view=findpost&p=290749
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?act=ST&f=92&t=35263&hl=kira&view=findpost&p=286991
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=284358
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 26th February 2012, 12:41pm)
QUOTE(Selina @ Sun 26th February 2012, 12:07pm)
That wasn't a threat as you know damn well I'm not even from america, it was an attempt to warn you what a path like that will probably end on, seriously, please, just take a moment and read through your posts and try imagine how that reads to other people?
I find it interesting that Jimmy Wales' daughter and (now ex-) wife were invited by Jimmy Carter to fly on the helicopter Carter was co-piloting to the private island owned by a multi-billionaire. I'm sure others also find that interesting, too. You seem to be the only one who thinks sharing that publicly self-published information is "creepy".
You're just jealous.
Posted by: Text
Selina, there are many tools available to anyone, which are not just used by real insane stalkers. If Wales were really upset about this stuff, he'd contact the man politely and have a chat.
And didn't Wales say that every person on the planet has the right to access information? Lots of "mainstream media" sites have stuff about his daughters.
http://www.celebrityparentsmag.com/2009/06/celebrity-parents-exclusive-jimmy-wales-creator-of-wikipedia.html
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24028957-mr-wikipedia-on-todays-blackout-moving-to-london-and-marrying-a-blair-babe.do
QUOTE(Selina)
a FBI van skidding up outside your drive
Right there
http://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20110818/04295415582/does-fbi-really-use-surveillance-vans-with-wifi-ssids-saying-fbisurveillancevan.shtml
and under your car as well
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/10/fbi-tracking-device/all/1
Posted by: Fusion
QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 26th February 2012, 5:41pm)
I find it interesting that Jimmy Wales' daughter and (now ex-) wife were invited by Jimmy Carter to fly on the helicopter Carter was co-piloting to the private island owned by a multi-billionaire. I'm sure others also find that interesting, too. You seem to be the only one who thinks sharing that publicly self-published information is "creepy".
I am quite sure Mr Kohs means no harm. No doubt if others were constantly giving out information about his own children if any he would be equally calm about it. Is that not so?
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(Fusion @ Sun 26th February 2012, 2:36pm)
I am quite sure Mr Kohs means no harm. No doubt if others were constantly giving out information about his own children if any he would be equally calm about it. Is that not so?
That, to me, would depend greatly on whether or not the "others" were using fake names like "Fusion", or whether they used their real names and were easily contacted in real life, such as I do.
Besides, what does it say about the ownership of this site, that if what I'm "constantly" doing regarding a famous celebrity child is so offensive to humanity, why is the content retained in published form on the website, rather than be removed?
This reminds me of the time that Durova said I had more than one kid. That was some expert sleuthing, then. But, at least I could reach out to Lise Broer and have a pleasant conversation with her about the number of my children.
Posted by: Fusion
QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 27th February 2012, 12:59pm)
That, to me, would depend greatly on whether or not the "others" were using fake names like "Fusion", or whether they used their real names and were easily contacted in real life, such as I do.
Your name is "Thekohser"?
Posted by: jayvdb
QUOTE(Fusion @ Mon 27th February 2012, 10:51pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 27th February 2012, 12:59pm)
That, to me, would depend greatly on whether or not the "others" were using fake names like "Fusion", or whether they used their real names and were easily contacted in real life, such as I do.
Your name is "Thekohser"?
In the time it took for you to write that, you could have worked out thekohser's real name.
Posted by: Fusion
QUOTE(jayvdb @ Mon 27th February 2012, 11:34pm)
In the time it took for you to write that, you could have worked out thekohser's real name.
Let us be precise. In that time I could have worked out what he says is his real name. Of course, WR:AGF I have no reason to doubt him. However, you of all people know the difference!