Mackan79 kicks SlimVirgin while down, When else, after all, are you going to kick someone? Options

[WordBomb]

Having been granted immunity from the WordBomb banhammer by GWH's potentially career-ending gaffe, Mackan79 today turned his sights to SlimVirgin.

You simply must read this guy's work. It is the best bit of SV=Crum375 evidence I've seen.

Of course Slim shortly reverted without comment, followed by one of her trademark talk page archiving moves.

(And, by the off chance that archive finds itself disappeared, here's a webcitation version of it.)

[jorge]

Attaaaaaaaaaaaaack

[Heat]

Mackan's offensive followed this rather churlish (and quickly reverted) comment by SV after Macken asked for the false sock allegation to be removed from his block log. SV on ANI

[jorge]

Some interesting links that the ever so persistent but not so bright Zeq posted on Slim's page. And living up to their usual standard of behaviour posts harrassing messages on Roland Rance's page. Reading Mackan's note to SV was total deja vu for me- I had an almost identical conversation years ago when they accused me of following one of them to another article when they had been doing exactly that to me for the past several months.

[Kato]

Slim is an irony generator supreme.

She used a sockpuppet account to vote twice on an article, and now chastises Macken79 who was wholly innocent after being falsely accused of using a sockpuppet.

When I saw Wordbomb's original post, I was jokingly going to write that I bet Slim accuses Macken79 of "stalking and harrassment", and lo and behold: "Mackan spent quite a considerable period at Wikipedia wikistalking me last year and part of 2006".

A further statement by Slim, saying that Jimbo contacted her to tip her off about Mackan confirms that Jimbo firmly supports Slim. So Jimbo, whose judgment includes hiring Essjay and Shagging Rachel Marsden, nailed his flag to not only JzG but Slim's mast! Two of the worst users on the site and who have played a significant part in its deterioration! Can the man get more foolhardy?

[Milton Roe]

Having been granted immunity from the WordBomb banhammer by GWH's potentially career-ending gaffe, Mackan79 today turned his sights to SlimVirgin.

You simply must read this guy's work. It is the best bit of SV=Crum375 evidence I've seen.

Of course Slim shortly reverted without comment, followed by one of her trademark talk page archiving moves.

(And, by the off chance that archive finds itself disappeared, here's a webcitation version of it.)

LOL. Yes. One of the first comments of other editors to Valdemort375, a.k.a. the face on the back of SV's head, is that he should stop sucking up to her. He's either a sock, a meat (eewww) or just had some VERY professional help getting onto WP in the first place. I mean, how many newbies start out with this as their first edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&oldid=52394536. Give me a break.

-- Milt

[gomi]

Unsurprisingly, Slimey has reverted without comment on her talk page. She will now attempt to ignore it, call in her meatpuppets to harass Mackan, and lie low until it blows over.

S. O. P.

[One]

But WordBomb, didn't you once say that Crum seemed to have a New York IP address? I assumed that Crum is a sycophant--who occasionally reverts ten times against the advice of arbitrators. It honestly would be hard to tell them apart.

Hmm... On second thought, Mackan79 may be on to something.

[Pumpkin Muffins]

But WordBomb, didn't you once say that Crum seemed to have a New York IP address? I assumed that Crum is a sycophant--who occasionally reverts ten times against the advice of arbitrators in support of SV. It honestly would be hard to tell them apart.

Hmm... On second thought, Mackan79 may be on to something.

Something to keep in mind; just as SH uses a proxy service to edit, it is possible to tunnel through someone else's computer and edit. For example, have a friend in a different city install a closed proxy on their computer that you can log into, or just shell out to your friends computer if using Unix/Linix (I've never tried the latter). You could leave firefox set up with one wikipedia account routed through your friends computer, and Internet Explorer set up with another wikipedia account routed normally through your internet provider - that way you'd never make login mistakes. It would be impossible to connect the two accounts with checkuser if the proxy on your friends computer is set up right. It really isn't that hard to do.

[guy]

SV on ANI

I'm sorry he was blocked incorrectly, but I see no reason to make a special case for him here, unless we're going to do the same thing for everyone from now on.

Is there any reason not to do the same thing for everyone?

[thekohser]

Anybody else notice Viridae's

06:36, 13 March 2008 Viridae (Talk | contribs) unblocked Mackan79 (Talk | contribs) ‎ (Not a cockpuppet per http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...omb_sockpuppet)

???

[Heat]

Can someone do a MM/SH type analysis of SV/Crum editing patterns and see how their edits fit together timewise and if they have a suspicious lack of editing "collisions"?

[Kato]

Can someone do a MM/SH type analysis of SV/Crum editing patterns and see how their edits fit together timewise and if they have a suspicious lack of editing "collisions"?

Done. Done. Done.

They're not sockpuppets.

[WordBomb]

But WordBomb, didn't you once say that Crum seemed to have a New York IP address?

The times I captured it, Crum did have a NYC IP, making it hard for me to accept the conventional WR wisdom that SV=Crum. But reading Mackan79's work, it becomes apparent that the technical challenges she would have to overcome to have both NY and Alberta IPs are less complicated than any arrangement that might be accounted for by SV and Crum being operated by separate people.

I retain a single reservation, which keeps me from accepting the premise completely, but I'm trying to work that out right now and will try to report on that on this thread later today.

[Kato]

But WordBomb, didn't you once say that Crum seemed to have a New York IP address?

The times I captured it, Crum did have a NYC IP, making it hard for me to accept the conventional WR wisdom that SV=Crum.

I looked at it really closely last year on Wikiabuse, concluded that they weren't after an examination of a whole month's worth of edits, and others seemed to be in agreement. I wouldn't consider it conventional WR wisdom that they are the same user. However, it keeps coming up again and again.

I'd say the chances of Crum being a sockpuppet of SV are er... Slim to say the least. Maybe 5-10% chance at best.

[jorge]

I definitely disagree with that- see some analysis I did previously here, here, and here.

[Kato]

They communicate off site and Crum helps Slim in whatever dispute she finds herself in. I found a whole load of long screeds by the two of them on active talk page discussions that were virtually simultaneous. That one person could physically manage to log off / log on, post long replies interacting with other users in the fashion I saw looked impossible.

Crum also has another editing side on techie boys-own topics -- completely outside of Slim's range. Crum doesn't sound like Slim on talk pages, and most importantly, Crum is stupid and makes poor suicidal decisions. Slim isn't and doesn't.

[Heat]

Why is Sidaway trying so hard to ingratiate his way back into the cult's good graces?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mac...ersonal_attacks

And now he's breaking the rules by editing archive pages in order to engage in historical revisionism
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=198642480

[Kato]

Why is Sidaway trying so hard to ingratiate his way back into the cult's good graces?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mac...ersonal_attacks

I don't know. He's taken on the mantle of a pure malevolent troublemaker now, way beyond his previous role as an obnoxious blowhard. He's deliberately stoking up trouble between the ailing abusive admin crowd and good faith users finally holding them accountable for their damage. If he keeps this cage rattling up, it'll mean some major conflict in the near future - and a further fall from grace for the old guard which is always a pleasure to watch. Hopefully his ridiculous provocations will unleash another media storm or two to boost our readership as well.

[Moulton]

Why is it that WP draws so many gamers (MMPORG) and drama queens?