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I have to say that this is one of the funniest things I've seen all month, related to free licenses.

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It looks like even European university libraries are dumber than us here at Wikipedia Review, having purchased some of those duds from Alphascript for their library shelves, only to realize...

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These books don't deserve two stars - they deserve no stars. They have ripped off the work of people who edited in good faith, knowing they were contributing to free knowledge. Charging over $30 for a book in which the original editors dont receive a cent however is an absolute disgrace.
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QUOTE(WikiWatch @ Sun 31st October 2010, 6:25am) *

These books don't deserve two stars - they deserve no stars. They have ripped off the work of people who edited in good faith, knowing they were contributing to free knowledge. Charging over $30 for a book in which the original editors dont receive a cent however is an absolute disgrace.

Boy, I hope you never find out about the price of science research journals and what authors of the papers those journals publish, are paid. Your head may explode. Did you know that authors sometimes pay journals?

Amazon gets on its high-horse here, but I think the real problem is that Amazon figures it's not getting its fair share of the cut on WP writing when it's published other than on the web. Are they going to refuse to sell e-reader (Kindle) versions of "WP offline"? Or sell them at cost, with no profit for themselves? I don't think so.

The truth of the matter is that authors have been screwed by publishers since the dawn of time, much as is the case with actors and studios, and music/vocal artists and recording companies (until very, very recently, as actors and others have managed to put together strong unions).

Writers of books and essays don't have a strong union. Amazon and Wikipedia thus figure that THEY should have the sole right to screw writers. Who are these other people who want to come between, as publishing middlemen? At $30 they obviously charge too much to be "real" editors! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/mad.gif)

Er, don't they? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 28th June 2011, 7:43pm) *

The truth of the matter is that authors have been screwed by publishers since the dawn of time ...
Writers of books and essays don't have a strong union.

There's a hilarious book about Lewis Carroll's relationship with his publishers. He just told them how much he was going to get from the sales of his books and how much they would get. He also got them to run all sorts of errands for him, like buying him theatre tickets (specifying exactly where he wanted to sit). I don't suppose anyone would get away with that now.
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