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Link Apparently, Delicious carbuncle thinks that Shankbone is the operator of several multiple accounts. Namely, QUOTE
* Fat Jenny foto fixer (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* Bucktoothed beaver (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* WatchingWhales (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* A Knavish Bonded (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* Fat Jenny (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser) (account on Commons only)
Thoughts? Opinions? Was this common knowledge of which I've just been unaware?
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QUOTE(Cimorene @ Mon 30th November 2009, 9:22am)  Link Apparently, Delicious carbuncle thinks that Shankbone is the operator of several multiple accounts. Namely, QUOTE
* Fat Jenny foto fixer (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* Bucktoothed beaver (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* WatchingWhales (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* A Knavish Bonded (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* Fat Jenny (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser) (account on Commons only)
Thoughts? Opinions? Was this common knowledge of which I've just been unaware? He asked about it at AN first, then posted the SPI request. He has notified Mr. Shankbone on his userpage. |
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 30th November 2009, 12:39pm) Perfect timing...we were running low on drama! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif) To Mr. Shankbone's credit, pretty much all of those pseudos (except for the Bucktoothed Beaver one, which was news to me...) were discussed already on WR. Since we're pretty much "drama central" as far as Wikipedia is concerned, anybody who wasn't aware of these socks simply wasn't paying attention... That said, it's probably best to get this out in the open, once and for all... Oh, man, Delicious Carbuncle is out for blood. He's nominated "List of Male Performers in Gay Porn films" for deletion.Even though this doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being deleted, he's absolutely right about the BLP issues. This list is a disaster waiting to happen.... |
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Mon 30th November 2009, 1:14pm)
In the world of abusive socks, these are pretty small beer. In fact, aside from the self-publicist COI thing, which has not been resolved in terms of his own user id, so the socks are pretty irrelevant, the only point in bringing this up is drama.
Hmm, there is some speculation as to whether Benji Featherstone, who reviews gay porn films on avn.com and who is a source for this list might somehow be connected with a Wikipedia editor. It would appear that perhaps some of these gay porn figures might be editing their own articles...So, perhaps DC has a point here? |
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 30th November 2009, 3:53pm)
Actually, it was MZMcBride who nominated that particular list for deletion. I have no doubt that it will survive to inadvertently label yet another unsuspecting person as a gay porn star.
Dangling modifier once again. You might find the CFD for "Category:Gay porn stars" interesting. QUOTE(Otto4711 22:00 @ 25 March 2007 (UTC)) Rename to Category:Gay porn performers to address the POV concerns of the word "star." I remain unconvinced that anyone will have any difficulty understanding the purpose of the category […]. It's for people in gay porn, not people in porn who are gay. []… However I seem to recall Paul Barresi interpreted it the opposite way, when somebody put Mr. Barresi's article into this category and/or added language to similar effect. In any case he was offended deeply enough to contact Jimbo directly, see: http://www.wikitruth.info/index.php?title=A_Day_In_The_Life |
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QUOTE(Cimorene @ Mon 30th November 2009, 9:22am) Link Apparently, Delicious carbuncle thinks that Shankbone is the operator of several multiple accounts. Namely, QUOTE
* Fat Jenny foto fixer (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* Bucktoothed beaver (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* WatchingWhales (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* A Knavish Bonded (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser)
* Fat Jenny (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser) (account on Commons only)
Thoughts? Opinions? Was this common knowledge of which I've just been unaware? I would not be surprised in the least if Shankers turns out to be a puppeteer. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif) |
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This is too rich : off of the AfD for "list of male performers in gay porn films"QUOTE Yes, Ash has pretty much called it. This is very much sky is falling BLP! BLP! Why wouldn't we re-hash that BLP thread, or the ANI one before that? This all started because you seem to want to remove/diminish an image of Michael Lucas (by David Shankbone) from the lede. You started the ANI thread when you let it slip you simply couldn't be bothered to address the BLP concerns because you were too busy edit-warring on the image. Then at BLP you were basically proven wrong and likely lazy - the big BLP concern? - that wikilinks went to the wrong person - {{sofixit}}. But no problem, every issue will be sorted out, those links to pornsites confirm that we aren't violating BLP - presumable your current concern and every other reasonable issue will be dealt with by more level headed editors who really have no vested interest in whether we have this content here or not. And the reason that the only comparable list of women in porn to you seems to be List of pornographic actresses by decade likely has only one explanation - this is the only list for men in gay porn films. And more categories simply don't equal replacing a list - see Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. -- Banjeboi 17:24, 30 November 2009 (UTC) * Benjiboi, please strike your remarks. Calling me "lazy" and once again implying that I am a homophobe are clear personal attacks. As is your repeated claim that I edit-warred over an image (which the article history will show that you were the one reverting multiple editors to restore). I'm here to comment on the issues raised in this AfD, not to bicker with you. Incidentally, you may wish to check the credit on that image - unless you know that Commons user "I Smell Beaver" is yet another of David Shankbone's alternate accounts, the image has nothing to do with him. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 17:48, 30 November 2009 (UTC) Um.... oops....While we're at it, does anybody else wonder why three out of five photos on the gay pornography article are of Michael Lucas film shoots?...hmm, I wonder who added those....and why?And it's not as if there weren't....um.... other possibilities for photos either... |
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Mon 30th November 2009, 9:20pm) According to this amusing segment of the SPI, discussion on WR = disclosure to arbcom.... Well, I guess he has a point there...rabblerousers, DC? On my Wikipedia Review? It's more likely than you think!Sorry if I misphrased that. What I meant was "David has admitted his use of the Watching Whales account (I think). Has he admitted to the use of any of the other accounts listed?" |
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QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Mon 30th November 2009, 11:07pm) QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Mon 30th November 2009, 9:20pm) According to this amusing segment of the SPI, discussion on WR = disclosure to arbcom.... Well, I guess he has a point there...rabblerousers, DC? On my Wikipedia Review? It's more likely than you think!Sorry if I misphrased that. What I meant was "David has admitted his use of the Watching Whales account (I think). Has he admitted to the use of any of the other accounts listed?" I seem to remember some story about "Fat Jenny" being his neighbor....as if a real live woman would actually choose that as an account name... What I meant by my remarks above is that we've all figured out that those are Shankbone socks. Whether he's admitted it or not is beside the point.... (um, you do realize that you appear to have "outed" yourself by your last comment, don't you?) |
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 30th November 2009, 9:58pm)
I'm accepting bets on how long it will take a gay admin (or friend thereof) to ban DC.
And I state the following, which you may use as reference.
Time until DC is accused of "hate speech", or Godwin's law is invoked: 1 day
Time until AFD is closed out: 3 days
Time until DC is banned: 1 month or less
(And just for dramatic effect, let me state that Benjiboi is a toxic little shit, gay or straight.)
If anyone is banned, it should be David Shankbone, followed by his faithful little puppy dog Benjiboi. Shankbone appears to have violated so many policies/rules in his time, and has basically stopped editing. Benjeboi is an irritating SPA in sex-related topics, particularly to do with homosexuality. Oh, and there's no question regarding his sexuality. Just look at his userpage. |
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QUOTE(Nerd @ Mon 30th November 2009, 3:14pm) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 30th November 2009, 9:58pm)
I'm accepting bets on how long it will take a gay admin (or friend thereof) to ban DC.
And I state the following, which you may use as reference.
Time until DC is accused of "hate speech", or Godwin's law is invoked: 1 day
Time until AFD is closed out: 3 days
Time until DC is banned: 1 month or less
(And just for dramatic effect, let me state that Benjiboi is a toxic little shit, gay or straight.)
If anyone is banned, it should be David Shankbone, followed by his faithful little puppy dog Benjiboi. Shankbone appears to have violated so many policies/rules in his time, and has basically stopped editing. Benjeboi is an irritating SPA in sex-related topics, particularly to do with homosexuality. Oh, and there's no question regarding his sexuality. Just look at his userpage. You mean his being a DJ for Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence fundraisers didn't clue you to his boi-ish nature? You really ARE a nerd, aren't you? http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=200515 |
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 30th November 2009, 10:37pm) QUOTE(Nerd @ Mon 30th November 2009, 3:14pm) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 30th November 2009, 9:58pm)
I'm accepting bets on how long it will take a gay admin (or friend thereof) to ban DC.
And I state the following, which you may use as reference.
Time until DC is accused of "hate speech", or Godwin's law is invoked: 1 day
Time until AFD is closed out: 3 days
Time until DC is banned: 1 month or less
(And just for dramatic effect, let me state that Benjiboi is a toxic little shit, gay or straight.)
If anyone is banned, it should be David Shankbone, followed by his faithful little puppy dog Benjiboi. Shankbone appears to have violated so many policies/rules in his time, and has basically stopped editing. Benjeboi is an irritating SPA in sex-related topics, particularly to do with homosexuality. Oh, and there's no question regarding his sexuality. Just look at his userpage. You mean his being a DJ for Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence fundraisers didn't clue you to his boi-ish nature? You really ARE a nerd, aren't you? http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=200515He is a bit like Daffyd Thomas: lives and breathes his sexuality. His occupation is being homosexual. And he will go out of his way to ensure that everyone is aware of it. He is a parasite. I'm not sure why the offensive remarks about my being a nerd. Eric Barbour's post suggested he didn't know, so I was replying to him, not to everyone else. |
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QUOTE(Nerd @ Mon 30th November 2009, 10:41pm) QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 30th November 2009, 10:37pm) QUOTE(Nerd @ Mon 30th November 2009, 3:14pm) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 30th November 2009, 9:58pm)
I'm accepting bets on how long it will take a gay admin (or friend thereof) to ban DC.
And I state the following, which you may use as reference.
Time until DC is accused of "hate speech", or Godwin's law is invoked: 1 day
Time until AFD is closed out: 3 days
Time until DC is banned: 1 month or less
(And just for dramatic effect, let me state that Benjiboi is a toxic little shit, gay or straight.)
If anyone is banned, it should be David Shankbone, followed by his faithful little puppy dog Benjiboi. Shankbone appears to have violated so many policies/rules in his time, and has basically stopped editing. Benjeboi is an irritating SPA in sex-related topics, particularly to do with homosexuality. Oh, and there's no question regarding his sexuality. Just look at his userpage. You mean his being a DJ for Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence fundraisers didn't clue you to his boi-ish nature? You really ARE a nerd, aren't you? http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=200515He is a bit like Daffyd Thomas: lives and breathes his sexuality. His occupation is being homosexual. And he will go out of his way to ensure that everyone is aware of it. He is a parasite. I'm not sure why the offensive remarks about my being a nerd. Eric Barbour's post suggested he didn't know, so I was replying to him, not to everyone else. Let's make it clear- We don't dislike Shankers due to his sexual orientation, we dislike him for being a shank. |
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QUOTE(RDH(Ghost In The Machine) @ Mon 30th November 2009, 10:45pm) QUOTE(Nerd @ Mon 30th November 2009, 10:41pm) QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 30th November 2009, 10:37pm) QUOTE(Nerd @ Mon 30th November 2009, 3:14pm) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 30th November 2009, 9:58pm)
I'm accepting bets on how long it will take a gay admin (or friend thereof) to ban DC.
And I state the following, which you may use as reference.
Time until DC is accused of "hate speech", or Godwin's law is invoked: 1 day
Time until AFD is closed out: 3 days
Time until DC is banned: 1 month or less
(And just for dramatic effect, let me state that Benjiboi is a toxic little shit, gay or straight.)
If anyone is banned, it should be David Shankbone, followed by his faithful little puppy dog Benjiboi. Shankbone appears to have violated so many policies/rules in his time, and has basically stopped editing. Benjeboi is an irritating SPA in sex-related topics, particularly to do with homosexuality. Oh, and there's no question regarding his sexuality. Just look at his userpage. You mean his being a DJ for Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence fundraisers didn't clue you to his boi-ish nature? You really ARE a nerd, aren't you? http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=200515He is a bit like Daffyd Thomas: lives and breathes his sexuality. His occupation is being homosexual. And he will go out of his way to ensure that everyone is aware of it. He is a parasite. I'm not sure why the offensive remarks about my being a nerd. Eric Barbour's post suggested he didn't know, so I was replying to him, not to everyone else. Let's make it clear- We don't dislike Shankers due to his sexual orientation, we dislike him for being a shank. No one has said anything about disliking Shankbone, let alone disliking him because of his sexuality. |
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 30th November 2009, 9:58pm)
I'm accepting bets on how long it will take a gay admin (or friend thereof) to ban DC.
And I state the following, which you may use as reference.
Time until DC is accused of "hate speech", or Godwin's law is invoked: 1 day
Time until AFD is closed out: 3 days
Time until DC is banned: 1 month or less
(And just for dramatic effect, let me state that Benjiboi is a toxic little shit, gay or straight.)
I have a vain hope that most people will eventually see Benjboi's logic-free rants for what they are, which is misdirection from the COI/paid editing issues. There is no shortage of gay male admins, so it is possible that one of them will be fooled, but it is much more likely that it will be a straight male admin who wields the banhammer (being far less able to discern deliberate targetting from coincidental targetting of gay editors). |
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QUOTE(Obesity @ Mon 30th November 2009, 9:51pm) QUOTE(Mike R @ Mon 30th November 2009, 10:48pm) lolz, u were scooped Whaa?? |
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Mon 30th November 2009, 7:47pm) 7 alternate accounts confirmed and blocked. Bucktoothed beaver (T-C-L-K-R-D)
WatchingWhales (T-C-L-K-R-D)
IMournRuthPointer (T-C-L-K-R-D)
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Fat Jenny foto fixer  (T-C-L-K-R-D)
A rebours me (T-C-L-K-R-D)
Littlefoote (T-C-L-K-R-D)
"The question of what to do with the David Shankbone account will be turfed to WP:AN." Some of these are very funny. Littlefoote (T-C-L-K-R-D)
's agenda as a new user was: 1) create user page, 2) create talkpage, 3) revert a comment of Durova's on the Shankbone bio debate. Hmmm. Could be a sock, maybe? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif) IMournRuthPointer (T-C-L-K-R-D)
's only edit was to add a porn photo illustrating other things a fluffer in a gay porn photo does. Like hand off lubricants to men in the middle of something, who can't get up easily. Oh, yes, indeed. . The photo is Lucas Entertainment. Where have we heard this name? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/huh.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif) Uploaded by one Allstarecho (T-C-L-K-R-D)
with the entertaining justification: "Source=Has been on my computer for a while, forget original source". So who is user:Allstarecho, eh? Inquiring minds want to know since the photo he uploaded ended up being a inserted into an article by a Shankbone sock, as its only act. Interesting. User Allstarecho seems to be interested only in gay-promo, but is not a photographer. Perhaps then, the fluffer?? [Edit: Oh, dear, user:Allstarecho has been fighting with Durova and others, and seems to be very recently retired. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=310675493] A rebours me (T-C-L-K-R-D)
Seems to have no edits at all. Oversighted? Where did the userpage come from? Fat Jenny foto fixer  (T-C-L-K-R-D)
's third edit, after making user and name pages, was to replace one Shankbone foto for another in the BLP of Kate Mulgrew. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif) "I prefer THIS photo" THAT OTHER ONE DOES NOT PLEASE ME... (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Bucktoothed beaver (T-C-L-K-R-D)
's edits consisted of adding four Shankbone photos of authors from the same NY booksigning. One photo is of the author added to a BLP of Jonathan Safran Foer, who has written a book called Eating Animals. Where have we seen this title? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif) Ponyboybreakaway (T-C-L-K-R-D)
's third edit was to say that putting Mzoli's as a high priority article was an insult to South Africa! Oh, Jimbo's not going to like downgrading this article, which is probaly why a sock wants to do it. See here But the subtext, also, is that the Mzoli's Meats is a butcher's eatery. Did I miss something, or did Shankbone worm his way into the WP power structure via that animal rights vegan thing, as well as by playing the gay and Jewish cards? It's not as though Jimbo's interested in much of this (he likes meat, but not THAT kind), but there are other WP people who care about carnivores very much, and are willing to trade porn for whatever. |
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 1st December 2009, 4:57am) IMournRuthPointer (T-C-L-K-R-D)
's only edit was to add a porn photo illustrating other things a fluffer in a gay porn photo does. Like hand off lubricants to men in the middle of something, who can't get up easily. Oh, yes, indeed. . The photo is Lucas Entertainment. Where have we heard this name? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/huh.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif) Uploaded by one Allstarecho (T-C-L-K-R-D)
with the entertaining justification: "Source=Has been on my computer for a while, forget original source". So who is user:Allstarecho, eh? Inquiring minds want to know since his photo ended up being a contribution of a Shank sock. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=325740364 Allstarecho left WP just in time to avoid the banhammer (he now edits as an IP and sticks to articles about what I assume is his alma mater's sports teams). He had some serious COI issues on [[ Equality Mississippi]], an organisation that he founded. Allstarecho was topic banned from [[ Matt Sanchez]] articles (and socks). He pushed the limits of this topic ban to the point that he was facing a full ban. Coincidentally, Matt Sanchez appeared in gay porn as Pierre La Branche and Rod Majors. There are several portraits of him on Commons by none other than David Shankbone. I believe Benjiboi was also under some kind of topic ban related to Sanchez, but I may be wrong. |
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