WikiBooks: Cooked Placenta, a tasty dish that the whole family will love Options

[Killiondude]

Cookbook:Placenta with Broccoli

This is a tasty dish that the whole family will love.

Discuss.

There's also grilled dog, horse recipes, and marijuana recipes for your reading pleasure.

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[Subtle Bee]

Cookbook:Placenta with Broccoli

This is a tasty dish that the whole family will love.

Discuss.

Yeah, good luck getting kids to eat broccoli.

[Somey]

This is a tasty dish that the whole family will love.

Discuss.

I guess they might love it if they didn't know what was in it?

I think the photo is a fake, personally. That's probably just ordinary stew-meat... Anyway, the author, one User:AlbertCahalan, chose not to list this article and its companion piece, Spicy Australian Placenta, on his user page. Why not, I wonder?

Apparently an AnonIP tried to list this for deletion back in 2006, but was rebuffed, apparently for not registering a user account.

Oops, I see it now - they'd discussed it previously. (Also, there's this.)

Cookbook:Placenta includes a link to Cookbook:Human because it is an obvious link to make. (at the time, Cookbook:Human was deleted) When it came time to make the link, my thoughts were "damn, there's some sort of controvery over that, perhaps I ought to investigate before filling in the entry for human". So, while I was aware of some sort of controversy, I knew little of the nature of the controversy...

Uh-huh.

[EricBarbour]

Just as bg info: in the past few years there's been a big, deeply bizarre fondness in the mommyhood world for doing strange things with placentas. Eating them is just a minor addendum.

[Moulton]

Next thing you know, there will be Cookbook:Eucharist.

What is it with all this cannibalism, real, parodic, and symbolic?

[A Horse With No Name]

There's also grilled dog, horse recipes, and marijuana recipes for your reading pleasure.

One of those choices is definitely not my pleasure, bub! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif)

[Cyclopia]

There's also grilled dog, horse recipes, and marijuana recipes for your reading pleasure.

In Southern Europe, eating horse meat is absolutely common and not frowned upon. There is a specialized horse butchery shop in every Italian city. I personally like it.

[thekohser]

Cookbook:Placenta with Broccoli

This is a tasty dish that the whole family will love.

Discuss.

There's also grilled dog, horse recipes, and marijuana recipes for your reading pleasure.

The whole family? What about the newborn infant? I think little baby should just stay on the mother's milk or formula.

See, this is why I have to be allowed on to Wikibooks. How can they keep me out of this fun?!

[Moulton]

This is a tasty dish that the whole family will love. It might go well served with rice, especially if the rice is loose and firm.

Rice?!? Rice?I?

I can see serving a dish like Fox 'n' Rice, but everyone knows that you serve Placenta with Polenta.

Sheesh.

[Somey]

In Southern Europe, eating horse meat is absolutely common and not frowned upon. There is a specialized horse butchery shop in every Italian city...

But that only makes it more barbaric, no...?

I personally like it.

Well, we already know you're a bad person... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif)

[Abd]

As a midwife, we ended up with lots of these. For my own kids, the placentas were buried in the back yard under a rose bush. Those roses were spectacular! Some people did, indeed, eat them. I never tasted it, I wasn't invited to any of these meals.

It's part of the baby, not of the mom.

There could now be reasons to preserve these in some way, perhaps cryogenically, for the stem cells. But I liked that teddy bear that someone made. After all, the baby slept next to that placenta, a part of himself or herself, for nine months....

[thekohser]

...the placentas...

It's part of the baby, not of the mom.

I hate to call you on your biology mistake, Abd, but I have it on good authority that even a 10-year-old should know that "the special organ of the placenta is formed during pregnancy and is shared between mother and child".

[Ottava]

Hippies eat babies, so why is it surprising that Yuppies would eat placenta?

[Somey]

Hippies eat babies, so why is it surprising that Yuppies would eat placenta?

How do you know they're Yuppies?

[jayvdb]

Cookbook:Placenta with Broccoli

This is a tasty dish that the whole family will love.

Discuss.

There's also grilled dog, horse recipes, and marijuana recipes for your reading pleasure.

Cripes. or, umm, crepes. The Wikipedia article Placentophagy is terrible.

Consumption of uncooked human placenta carries risks associated with other human blood products, primarily risk of hepatitis B,C and HIV infection. However, eating one's own placenta does not carry those risks.

Ignoring the 'ownership' aspect, obviously if mom's blood already has a blood infection, the 'risk' of catching that same blood infection is pretty low. Still, ingesting a big blob of it is probably not going to help either.

[Ottava]

Hippies eat babies, so why is it surprising that Yuppies would eat placenta?

How do you know they're Yuppies?

Who else would make an online cookbook on Wikibooks? The WMF skews to technology oriented people with a left of center political view and a general out of touchness with reality. Isn't that what Yuppies were?

[Moulton]

Next thing you know they'll be publishing recipes for cooking the cookbooks.

"This is a cookbook. Take and eat."

[Adrignola]

The Cookbook on Wikibooks is not my favorite portion of the project. It really stretches the limits of Wikibooks' scope. However, it constitutes 10% of the total content pages in the project and is pretty entrenched. It might be surprising to some that the Wikimedia Foundation has such a large collection of recipes and cooking techniques.

[Somey]

Who else would make an online cookbook on Wikibooks? The WMF skews to technology oriented people with a left of center political view and a general out of touchness with reality. Isn't that what Yuppies were?

Well, Yuppies still exist, at least in the literal sense. But as for the rest, to say they are (or were) "technology-oriented" is probably an overgeneralization; they were only interested in technology as a means of making more money, not to make the world a better place. Politically speaking, the idea was that these were people who had been left-leaning until reaching their mid-20's and finding high-paying jobs, at which point they all-too-quickly abandoned their previous "liberal idealism" in favor of a neo-conservative agenda. This, in turn, became the primary point of criticism - that because they were easily converted, their liberalism was "shallow," and therefore all liberalism must be "shallow."

I guess what I'm saying is that while most people who eat placenta are probably Yuppies (or whatever the term is for an "urban professional" who is no longer young - I believe "the Viagra Generation" is a popular one these days) - it's unfair to say that most Yuppies would consider eating someone's placenta. If there were some money in it for them though, things would be different, with pregnant women being asked to sign "vendor contracts" as meat suppliers, McDonald's serving "McAfterbirth" in nice neat styrofoam containers with an ice-cold Coke™ for just $3.99, etc., etc.

Personally I think the whole idea is disgusting, but having seen an episode or two of "Happy Tree Friends," it's almost like there's no point in pretending that society still has any sort of gross-out limits whatsoever.

[Abd]

...the placentas...It's part of the baby, not of the mom.

I hate to call you on your biology mistake, Abd, but I have it on good authority that even a 10-year-old should know that "the special organ of the placenta is formed during pregnancy and is shared between mother and child".

Not a biology mistake, Greg. Just a different interpretation of what "shared" means, and what I meant by "part of the baby."

From that paragon of accuracy, Wikpedia, Placenta, The placenta develops from the same sperm and egg cells that form the fetus, and functions as a fetomaternal organ with two components, the fetal part (Chorion frondosum), and the maternal part (Decidua basalis).
That is, the placenta grows from the fertilized egg, and is specialized to extract nutrients from the mother's blood, through attaching and growing into the uterine wall, like some symbiotic leech. It is very much a part of the baby.

The Placentophagy article does leave something to be desired, eh? I think the argument presented, though, isn't a bad one.... it just doesn't belong, stated the way it is, in a Wikipedia article. But what do you do when there is a reliable source that says something really stupid? I sympathize.

I find it odd that some here imagine that people who might eat the placenta are "out of touch with reality." Human birth and placentas are definitely real. How many here have actually touched a placenta? And do these who have not think they are somehow more in touch with "reality" because of this. I'd say the opposite. Birth, for most people, is hidden away, sometimes even more than death.

I handled over about thirty placentas myself. But didn't eat them. All but four were not mine ("ours") to eat. Would I do so if invited? Probably. Yuppie, folks, I am definitely not. Kooky, okay, SB_Johnny seems to think so. I'd definitely rather be "kooky" than "normal." What's a "normal" Wikipedia editor like?

[Somey]

I handled over about thirty placentas myself. But didn't eat them. All but four were not mine ("ours") to eat. Would I do so if invited? Probably. Yuppie, folks, I am definitely not. Kooky, okay, SB_Johnny seems to think so. I'd definitely rather be "kooky" than "normal." What's a "normal" Wikipedia editor like?

Well, let's just say a normal Wikipedia editor wouldn't wait for parturition to occur.

[Ottava]

I guess what I'm saying is that while most people who eat placenta are probably Yuppies (or whatever the term is for an "urban professional" who is no longer young - I believe "the Viagra Generation" is a popular one these days) - it's unfair to say that most Yuppies would consider eating someone's placenta. If there were some money in it for them though, things would be different, with pregnant women being asked to sign "vendor contracts" as meat suppliers, McDonald's serving "McAfterbirth" in nice neat styrofoam containers with an ice-cold Coke™ for just $3.99, etc., etc.

Personally I think the whole idea is disgusting, but having seen an episode or two of "Happy Tree Friends," it's almost like there's no point in pretending that society still has any sort of gross-out limits whatsoever.

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned by hippies eating babies comment. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

But yes, the idea is rather... weird... I would say it is akin to eating your own mucus after removing it, putting it in a dish, and frying it up.


By the way, I think "hipster" might have been more accurate in describing today's "yuppie". And I don't think that the yuppies are any less left, just more hypocritical.

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[thekohser]

Well, let's just say a normal Wikipedia editor wouldn't wait for parturition to occur.

Indeed. If this image were in its proper OGG file format, you would be able to hear the dinner bell being rung by the sous chef in the kitchen.

And if this were taking place in the home of a Wikimedia UK spokesperson, the chef would probably also happen to be the girlfriend of the mother, and maybe even known mistress to the father. They're very open like that in the UK.

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[EricBarbour]

Personally I think the whole idea is disgusting, but having seen an episode or two of "Happy Tree Friends," it's almost like there's no point in pretending that society still has any sort of gross-out limits whatsoever.

You've never seen an episode of Retarded Animal Babies, have you?......

[Abd]

I handled over about thirty placentas myself. But didn't eat them. All but four were not mine ("ours") to eat. Would I do so if invited? Probably. Yuppie, folks, I am definitely not. Kooky, okay, SB_Johnny seems to think so. I'd definitely rather be "kooky" than "normal." What's a "normal" Wikipedia editor like?

Well, let's just say a normal Wikipedia editor wouldn't wait for parturition to occur.

Naw, that's not really "eating," it's just called that. Actually take a bite, she'd be totally pissed.

As to immediate consumption of placenta, well, the blood and amniotic fluid, which might as well be called month's worth of baby piss, though it smells better than one might expect, isn't exactly appetizing. I would not be remotely interesting in this organ meat unless it were cleaned and cooked.

As to eating babies, well, maybe eating placenta should be illegal. After all, what if they develop a taste for it? It's part of the baby. Who knows what they would eat next? Maybe Ottava's on to something.

By the way, anyone else notice how the huge image freaks out the entire page?

[CharlotteWebb]

Well, let's just say a normal Wikipedia editor wouldn't wait for parturition to occur.

Indeed. If this image were in its proper OGG file format, you would be able to hear the dinner bell being rung by the sous chef in the kitchen.

And if this were taking place in the home of a Wikimedia UK spokesperson, the chef would probably also happen to be the girlfriend of the mother, and maybe even known mistress to the father. They're very open like that in the UK.

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[Subtle Bee]

I find it odd that some here imagine that people who might eat the placenta are "out of touch with reality." Human birth and placentas are definitely real. How many here have actually touched a placenta?

umm, everyone? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wtf.gif)

[Somey]

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned by hippies eating babies comment. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

That whole business about hippies eating babies has always been somewhat misunderstood. You have to remember that the babies were comin' straight for 'em! They're dangerous! They had to shoot 'em in self-defense! As for the "eating" part, well, that's a little harder to explain, but waste not, want not, I guess... It's environmentally responsible, apparently.

But yes, the idea is rather... weird... I would say it is akin to eating your own mucus after removing it, putting it in a dish, and frying it up.

That's ridiculous - everyone knows you fry the mucus before you put it in the dish. Heck, you could damage the dish! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif)

By the way, I think "hipster" might have been more accurate in describing today's "yuppie".

"Hipster"? No way, man! That term is reserved for a certain kind of alt-rock music fan, the sort who listen to Yo La Tengo and Weezer and Vampire Weekend. Very few of them are wealthy professional people, and none of them (that I know of) would consider eating a human placenta for even one horrific, yet thankfully fleeting, moment.

The proper term for Yuppies is still "Yuppies," it's just that they look different now, are a bit more discreet, and are more likely to live in London than New York or Los Angeles. I was just looking for a specific term to refer to 80's-style Yuppies who are now 25-30 years older, getting close to retirement, but still consuming everything imaginable (including, perhaps, placenta) at an alarming rate.

[EricBarbour]

I find it odd that some here imagine that people who might eat the placenta are "out of touch with reality." Human birth and placentas are definitely real. How many here have actually touched a placenta?

umm, everyone? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wtf.gif)

I beg to differ. SlimVirgin and Will Beback are clearly artificial life forms. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/happy.gif)

[Cock-up-over-conspiracy]

I rather thought the USP of the Cooked Placenta topic was the warning note regarding "scavenged" food. I mean, are they they specifically warning about scavenged placenta?

Dumpster diving freegans dining outside of hospitals on body parts!?!

As ever this forum inspires an even more debased education. On Japanese TV they are countless ad for Placenta 100 beauty care products. I suspect that the world placenta has not got quite the same ring to it, or rather plop to it, as it does in English.

Two clicks of Google and a whole world of placenta trading appears, porcine (for beauty products!?!) and humane.

Yes ...

LAENNEC PLACENTA (10x2ml Vials) for Intravenous injection. Manufactured by: Laennec Made in Japan

(100% Aunthentic) - 10 ampules of 2ml per tray

Human Placenta Extract – is a very safe and effective treatment for a variety of ailments as well as being quite useful in an anti-aging program. We would also like to emphasize that the Japanese Ministry of Health and Labor has acknowledged human placenta treatment as safe and effective with no serious side effects. The list of potential treatments is quite impressive with patients of skin conditions, menopause, andropause (male menopause), anti-aging (youthful rejuvenation), liver problems, cardiovascular problems, asthma, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, depression, Meniere's disease, tinnitus, and vertigo all benefiting from this intensive treatment. In addition Hormone Balancing, Good Blood Circulation ,Anti Bodies ,Collagen productivity, Hay fever, Allergy, Psoriasis and Acne.

Where do the Japanese and Koreans get these things from .... the 350,000 artificially induced abortions that could otherwise be going to balance the nations' aging demographics? Yes, South Korea at 48,000,000 population manages to produce as many unwanted blue babies as Japan at 128,000,000 and its top estimates are 4 times higher at around 1.5 million.

Are they imported from China in bulk on the cheap? Or do the young mothers get offered a refund on the empties after they give birth?

Check out the cheery kiddie noises, and animations, on this company's website ... placenta-jbp.co.jp. Yes, why, have your placenta donors screened ... including no stays in 7dirty European countries since 1980! Yes, they do make skin whitening soaps out of them ... but I am afraid the "lampshade" idea just did not work out. You can buy them in bulk but it says nothing about making them into burgers.

If you are into pigs ... one Japanese company sells a placental "health drink" called Placenta 10000 (10000 mg of placenta) that tastes like peaches.

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[Selina]

this thread makes me want to run away and hides under some blankets

[Abd]

I find it odd that some here imagine that people who might eat the placenta are "out of touch with reality." Human birth and placentas are definitely real. How many here have actually touched a placenta?

umm, everyone? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wtf.gif)

I beg to differ. SlimVirgin and Will Beback are clearly artificial life forms. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/happy.gif)

Yeah. But if they are reading this, it was a long time ago, and they probably don't remember.

[The Joy]

Too bad Greg is blocked on WikiBooks. He could add so much more there. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

On second thought, if cooking recipes are the apogee of WikiBooks, maybe being blocked there is a blessing? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

[thekohser]

Too bad Greg is blocked on WikiBooks. He could add so much more there. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

On second thought, if cooking recipes are the apogee of WikiBooks, maybe being blocked there is a blessing? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

Wait until you see my recipe for Stewed Steward.

[Abd]

Too bad Greg is blocked on WikiBooks. He could add so much more there. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

On second thought, if cooking recipes are the apogee of WikiBooks, maybe being blocked there is a blessing? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

Wait until you see my recipe for Stewed Steward.

Slow-cooked. The best way.

[Ottava]

By the way, I think "hipster" might have been more accurate in describing today's "yuppie".

"Hipster"? No way, man! That term is reserved for a certain kind of alt-rock music fan, the sort who listen to Yo La Tengo and Weezer and Vampire Weekend. Very few of them are wealthy professional people, and none of them (that I know of) would consider eating a human placenta for even one horrific, yet thankfully fleeting, moment.

The proper term for Yuppies is still "Yuppies," it's just that they look different now, are a bit more discreet, and are more likely to live in London than New York or Los Angeles. I was just looking for a specific term to refer to 80's-style Yuppies who are now 25-30 years older, getting close to retirement, but still consuming everything imaginable (including, perhaps, placenta) at an alarming rate.

Well, in my part of DC, we consider Georgetown a hipster area. Basically, the word (like yuppie) means trendy, snooty, elitist, and left of center.

[Adrignola]

A side note that hopefully will not offend anyone: it's Wikibooks, not WikiBooks. We don't use the term "WikiPedia" in referencing Wikipedia, do we?

[Abd]

A side note that hopefully will not offend anyone: it's Wikibooks, not WikiBooks. We don't use the term "WikiPedia" in referencing Wikipedia, do we?

I am soooo offended. I kind of like WikiPedia. The short form is WB. Not Wb. WP, not Wp. WV, not Wv. And people here write about the 'Pedia all the time.

So, here, just so that the stub, the nub, the short end of the stick, doesn't think I'm discriminating against him, I will henceforth uniformly refer to WikiBooks, AdrigNola. Or is it AdriGnola? I don't Gnow. La.

[Somey]

Well, in my part of DC, we consider Georgetown a hipster area. Basically, the word (like yuppie) means trendy, snooty, elitist, and left of center.

What part of DC? I grew up in the DC area, and there was never anything especially "hipster" about Georgetown, other than a few shops near the M St./Wisconsin Ave. intersection. It's always been basically old money with incursions of new-money, and the new-money naturally tends to be younger. It's a rich neighborhood, that's all. There are a lot of Yuppies, to be sure, and you'll see plenty of actual hipsters walking around there too, but most of them don't actually live there - it's too expensive, so they walk there from Foggy Bottom (GWU) or Dupont Circle, maybe even Adam's Morgan/Columbia Road, or else they just drive in over the bridge from North Arlington.

Actual hipsters tend to be slackers and social misfits, whereas Yuppies are go-getters and conformists, always looking to get in on the latest money-making activity. There's always going to be some overlap, but those are the exceptions, not the rule.

Hey, do you know if Whitey's is still open, just south of Clarendon? I used to go there for "Broasted Chicken" every other weekend... I'll bet they could make good cooked placenta! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

[Ottava]

Well, in my part of DC, we consider Georgetown a hipster area. Basically, the word (like yuppie) means trendy, snooty, elitist, and left of center.

What part of DC? I grew up in the DC area, and there was never anything especially "hipster" about Georgetown, other than a few shops near the M St./Wisconsin Ave. intersection.

Look at my email address closely. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

It's always been basically old money with incursions of new-money, and the new-money naturally tends to be younger. It's a rich neighborhood, that's all. There are a lot of Yuppies, to be sure, and you'll see plenty of actual hipsters walking around there too, but most of them don't actually live there - it's too expensive, so they walk there from Foggy Bottom (GWU) or Dupont Circle, maybe even Adam's Morgan/Columbia Road, or else they just drive in over the bridge from North Arlington.

Actual hipsters tend to be slackers and social misfits, whereas Yuppies are go-getters and conformists, always looking to get in on the latest money-making activity. There's always going to be some overlap, but those are the exceptions, not the rule.

Hey, do you know if Whitey's is still open, just south of Clarendon? I used to go there for "Broasted Chicken" every other weekend... I'll bet they could make good cooked placenta! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

By the way, I think our definition of hipster is different, but I feel that it is mostly because it is a general pejorative and regional stereotypes tend to supplant a "objective" definition of such a word.

I would use "hipster" to define people who go to Starbucks, like this crappy cupcake shop in Georgetown, talk about how great the town is, etc. I would also use it to describe the hypocritical leftist pseudo-intellectuals who constantly talk about how they help out minorities but wont allow there to be a metro station because "those people" may start coming in more frequently.


P.S., if you ever want to visit, you know how to contact me. I fit in with any social company, hell, I dated a girl for 6 months who was one of the head of the DC NOW chapter (I was the "representative of everything evil in the world" from month 3-6, yet it still lasted that long).

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