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So it's gone now. Deleted by Yanksox, speedily endorsed by our friend Gaillimh. Three cheers all round? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/cool.gif)
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For whatever its worth Mr. Brandt...

When this whole debate over your article started I was of the "screw him, lets keep it" camp. I dunno how or why... but I guess at some point the bulb over my head lit up.

this is a shameful disgrace, and I'm sorry.
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QUOTE(Alkivar @ Sat 3rd March 2007, 3:28am) *

For whatever its worth Mr. Brandt...

When this whole debate over your article started I was of the "screw him, lets keep it" camp. I dunno how or why... but I guess at some point the bulb over my head lit up.

this is a shameful disgrace, and I'm sorry.

It's worth a lot; thank you.

I just discovered that SlimVirgin is resurrecting her efforts to get a new policy in place for marginal notables who don't want an article. She worked on this a bit starting at the end of December, but after a few weeks decided it wasn't taking off. This time, thanks to the situation with Essjay, as well as the debacle with AfD, there may be additional interest. Eloquence has made a comment, and I think that there's even a chance that Jimbo might be receptive this time around. It's becoming clearer, I hope, that Wikipedia's best bet for the future (and an option that is easy to implement) is to become much more considerate of the wishes of people with biographies. This doesn't mean that Wikipedia has to let them edit the article in ways that are unencyclopedic, but it means that the person should have veto power over whether there's an bio on him at all.

Another option would be to block all search engines and as many scrapers as you can catch from all of Wikipedia's pages. Now that would also be very honorable, but it's not about to happen given the current state of the web, and the importance of Google for driving traffice to Wikipedia.

It's one or the other: veto power for subjects of bios, or keep the bots out. One is easy and the other will never happen.

The ironic thing is that Jimbo could bless this veto-power policy and save Wikipedia with a few well-chosen words. You might get a few whiners, but it would all be over in a day or two, and the policy would be in place.
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 3rd March 2007, 8:23am) *

I just discovered that SlimVirgin is resurrecting her efforts to get a new policy in place for marginal notables who don't want an article.


I would not trust these people for a second. They have the amazing ability to lie with both forks of their tongue. And that's not even counting the behind-the-scenes orchestrated sock-puppet shows.

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Alex   Brandt's article deleted, undeleted, stubbed, ad infinitum...  
gomi   Bravo. Now I want a box seat for the inevitable w...  
Alex   Bravo. Now I want a box seat for the inevitable ...  
Somey   ...I expect it'll produce a similar result. Si...  
taiwopanfob   I think there's actually reason for optimism ...  
thekohser   This is an excellent opportunity for Wales to ac...  
Anonymouse   Now it's on WP:DRV, and staying deleted. Here...  
No one of consequence   Well, so far they're holding a clusterfuck ove...  
Unrepentant Vandal   Well, so far they're holding a clusterfuck ov...  
Alkivar   Look Jimbo wading in is probably a bad idea... we ...  
anon1234   The best thing that could happen is a public disco...  
a view from the hive   The best thing that could happen is a public disc...  
LamontStormstar   Brandt's notable for mainly that Seigler(sp?) ...  
Somey   Brandt's notable for mainly that Seigler(sp?) ...  
a view from the hive   Brandt's notable for mainly that Seigler(sp?)...  
thebainer   [quote name='LamontStormstar' post='23493' date='...  
Somey   I dunno, Stephen... There seems to be almost no po...  
Somey   But what about the time in 1997 when he balanced 1...  
a view from the hive   But what about the time in 1997 when he balanced ...  
Somey   Try the truth, it looks better :) Do you have reli...  
a view from the hive   Try the truth, it looks better :) Do you have rel...  
the fieryangel   Regardless of HOW the article was deleted, the fac...  
guy   Wikipedia tries to contain only factual informati...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Wikipedia tries to contain only [b]factual inform...  
guy   No doubt I'll be accused of partisanship, but ...  
Somey   No doubt I'll be accused of partisanship, but ...  
Somey   As predicted, the article's back, with the DRV...  
Daniel Brandt   The thing that strikes me about this DRV, as well ...  
Truth Man   It's a video game, and those who happen to je...  
badlydrawnjeff   I'm pleasantly surprised, even if it's onl...  
gomi   Doc Glasgow has quit, citing in part the Brandt wh...  
thebainer   As I've often done, I just want to redundantl...  
a view from the hive   I plan to close it. I seem to do fairly well at c...  
Daniel Brandt   I plan to close it. I seem to do fairly well at c...  
everyking   As I've often done, I just want to redundant...  
Daniel Brandt   you should set a percentage figure in advance for...  
a view from the hive   [quote name='everyking' post='23845' date='Thu 1s...  
Cobalt   Keep Per SlimVirgin! --Kevin Murray 01:19, 3 ...  
thebainer   Due to the views you're expressing in this po...  
everyking   Due to the views you're expressing in this p...  
Somey   It's probably pointless to discuss this like i...  
Jonny Cache   ... slim majority ... Good one !!! ...  
Daniel Brandt   How many votes in a slim majority ??? One, althou...  
a view from the hive   How many votes in a slim majority ??? One, altho...  
JohnA   If the Daniel Brandt article has been deleted then...  
guy   If the Daniel Brandt article has been deleted the...  
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Jonny Cache   The [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit...  
JohnA   I find myself wondering what the point of getting ...  
Daniel Brandt   You should see what they're pulling now with m...  
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Somey   Yes, this is typical, even classic, Wikipedia. Evi...  
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The Joy   The only way Mr. Brandt's article will be dele...  
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Somey   I voted keep because of the ungodly huge list of s...  
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Alex   Six minutes later, JoshuaZ deleted my comment and...  
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