FORUM WARNING [2] Division by zero (Line: 2933 of /srcsgcaop/boardclass.php)
Wikipedia: A Threat To Civil Society -
     
 
The Wikipedia Review: A forum for discussion and criticism of Wikipedia
Wikipedia Review Op-Ed Pages

Welcome, Guest! ( Log In | Register )

> Wikipedia: A Threat To Civil Society, No More Monsieur Nice Guy
Rating  3
Jonny Cache
post
Post #1


τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε
*********

Group: Contributors
Posts: 5,100
Joined:
Member No.: 398



No More Monsieur Nice Guy

After all this time, I get the feeling that many people, even many denizens of The Wikipedia Review, fail to comprehend the magnitude of the threat to Civil Society that is posed by Wikipedia and its ways.

And every time I get a glimmer of hope that Wikipedians themselves might just get their ways back on the path to recovery of humane good sense — well, they never fail to dash those hopes back into the mud of what they seem bound and determined to remain.

In order that some of you who know me best will understand the change in tactics that I must now undertake, I will try to lay out as clearly as I can why I think that Wikipedia and its ways pose the kind of danger to society that all people of good will must eventually oppose.

Jon Awbrey


This post has been edited by Jonny Cache:
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
Jonny Cache
post
Post #2


τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε
*********

Group: Contributors
Posts: 5,100
Joined:
Member No.: 398



Let us continue with our study of the Social Contract between the Pusher and the Junkie.

QUOTE

I awoke from The Sickness at the age of forty-five, calm and sane, and in reasonably good health except for a weakened liver and the look of borrowed flesh common to all who survive The Sickness. . . . Most survivors do not remember the delirium in detail. I apparently took detailed notes on sickness and delirium. I have no precise memory of writing the notes which have now been published under the title Naked Lunch. The title was suggested by Jack Kerouac. I did not understand what the title meant until my recent recovery. The title means exactly what the words say: NAKED Lunch — a frozen moment when everyone sees what is on the end of every fork.

— William S. Burroughs, Naked Lunch


If you find the analogy too sinister for your taste, feel free to substitute Spider and Fly.

Jonny (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by Jonny Cache:
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
GlassBeadGame
post
Post #3


Dharma Bum
*********

Group: Contributors
Posts: 7,919
Joined:
From: My name it means nothing. My age it means less. The country I come from is called the Mid-West.
Member No.: 981



QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Tue 30th October 2007, 8:32pm) *

Let us continue with our study of the "social contract" between the pusher and the junkie.

QUOTE

I awoke from The Sickness at the age of forty-five, calm and sane, and in reasonably good health except for a weakened liver and the look of borrowed flesh common to all who survive The Sickness. . . . Most survivors do not remember the delirium in detail. I apparently took detailed notes on sickness and delirium. I have no precise memory of writing the notes which have now been published under the title Naked Lunch. The title was suggested by Jack Kerouac. I did not understand what the title meant until my recent recovery. The title means exactly what the words say: NAKED Lunch — a frozen moment when everyone sees what is on the end of every fork.

— William S. Burroughs, Naked Lunch


If you find the analogy too sinister, feel free to substitute Spider and Fly.

Jonny (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/cool.gif)


Begin with the notion of exploitive power imbalance. Add a mutual desire for discretion and relative long term stability. Mutual external threats to the relationship builds an outlaw ethic between the players. Finally opportunities for the less powerful participant to betray and inform on the more powerful in situations of peril.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Jonny Cache
post
Post #4


τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε
*********

Group: Contributors
Posts: 5,100
Joined:
Member No.: 398



QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 30th October 2007, 10:47pm) *

Begin with the notion of exploitive power imbalance. Add a mutual desire for discretion and relative long term stability. Mutual external threats to the relationship builds an outlaw ethic between the players. Finally opportunities for the less powerful participant to betray and inform on the more powerful in situations of peril.


Yes, all of that, but you are pushing me ahead of the story at a time when I'm moving kinda slow — bad effects of working through the weekend, I guess, as it feels like Friday to me now, and I've got that urge to be more silly than serious.

The missing piece of the puzzle right now is the engine that drives the whole economy on its weary way to hell — a little thing that Burroughs calls the The Algebra Of Need.

Jonny (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by Jonny Cache:
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
Jonny Cache   Wikipedia: A Threat To Civil Society  
SqueakBox   [b]No More Monsieur Nice Guy After all this time...  
Jonny Cache   I look forward to that as any serious, well thoug...  
the fieryangel   Okay, Jonny, is that your sock or not??? If that...  
Jonny Cache   Okay, Jonny, is that your sock or not??? If that...  
the fieryangel   Okay, Jonny, is that your sock or not??? If tha...  
Jonny Cache   If this whole point of this is to be able to say ...  
guy   Well, we don't want to be picking on Guys as ...  
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='50640' date='Tue ...  
Joseph100   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='50640' date='Tue...  
jorge   Okay, Jonny, is that your sock or not??? If that...  
Jonny Cache   It is probably easiest for me if I begin with the ...  
Joseph100   [b]No More Monsieur Nice Guy After all this time...  
The Joy   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='50605' date='Tue ...  
Jonny Cache   Didn't Lenin say something similar? If you r...  
Jonny Cache   Let us revisit the Evidence Presented by SlimVirgi...  
Joseph100   Let us revisit the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w...  
GlassBeadGame   See a true picture of a typical wikiadminidiot.....  
Castle Rock   [b]No More Monsieur Nice Guy After all this time...  
Jonny Cache   A threat to society. I think you are vastly over...  
GlassBeadGame   A threat to society. I think you are vastly over...  
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Castle Rock' post='51281' date='Sat ...  
Emperor   A threat to society. I think you are vastly over...  
Jonny Cache   In the US, as WE (Da Ppl) like to say, it is the l...  
WhispersOfWisdom   In his book about this very topic, "the cult ...  
Jonny Cache   In his book about this very topic, "the cult...  
SqueakBox   In his book about this very topic, "the cult...  
Jonny Cache   Give me one SlimVirgin over 100 messedrockers â...  
The Joy   I'll admit that I've been editing WP more ...  
WhispersOfWisdom   I'll admit that I've been editing WP more...  
Jonny Cache   Wild west and Al Capone all mixed in with Lord of...  
Emperor   Wild west and Al Capone all mixed in with Lord o...  
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='51826' date='Tue ...  
Jonny Cache   Speak o' th' Dust Devil — have you ...  
The Joy   Speak o' th' Dust Devil — have you...  
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='51785' date='Tue ...  
Nathan   (aside) I love those Star Trek references.  
Jonny Cache   (aside) I love those Star Trek references. Then...  
Nathan   (aside) I love those Star Trek references. The...  
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Nathan' post='52392' date='Sun 30th...  
Jonny Cache   Wikipedia puts the Public at risk in two main ways...  
Jonny Cache   Okay, that was fun, but threats to society are no ...  
Jonny Cache   Any list of required readings on the psychology of...  
Jon Awbrey   A Re*Currently Timely Reference — Any lis...  
Kato   http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb311/Kato90125...  
Jonny Cache   http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb311/Kato90125...  
Jonny Cache   [img]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb311/Kat...  
Jonny Cache   There is a [topic=13330]discussion in the so-call...  
Somey   There is a [topic=13330]discussion in the so-calle...  
Joseph100   "Don't attribute evil to what may be s...  
Somey   But.... Wikipeidia does "evil" though it...  
Moulton   I define "evil" as a toxic combination ...  
Kato   [b]Evil = Power + Fear + Obliviousness + Ruthlessn...  
Jonny Cache   RE: Wikipedia: A Threat To Civil Society  
GlassBeadGame   Funny thing is Burroughs wrote that in 1959. ...  
Jonny Cache   Funny thing is Burroughs wrote that in 1959. In ...  
Jon Awbrey   A Re*Currently Timely Quote —  
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='57048' date='Mon ...  
Jon Awbrey   Let us continue with our study of the Social Cont...  
Jonny Cache   RE: Wikipedia: A Threat To Civil Society  
Jonny Cache   It's been thirty years since I read Naked L...  
Jon Awbrey   The Algebra Of Need —  
victim of censorship   [b]The Algebra Of Need — [Youtube]WM...  
Jon Awbrey   Reviving this thread for the sake of a current dis...  


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

-   Lo-Fi Version Time is now:
 
     
FORUM WARNING [2] Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home2/wikipede/public_html/int042kj398.php:242) (Line: 0 of Unknown)