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Posted by: thekohser
Twitter.com has a http://twitter.zendesk.com/forums/26810/entries/78525 that allows you to disclose the location from which your tweet is twittering.
It looks like Jimbo Wales tried out the feature on http://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/13093255182. Now, when you learn where his location was, it might strike you as a bit funny -- indeed, it may even make you twitter. Jimbo doesn't like people giggling at him, so it's possible he will exercise his right to...
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You may delete all location information from your past tweets.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
Therefore, we have helped to keep free information open and free, posting Jimbo's self-disclosed location http://www.wikipediareview.com/File:Jimbo_in_Golden_Acres.jpg for posterity.
Jimbo's Twitter account posted from http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Golden+Acres,+Dunedin,+FL&sll=41.073277,-111.971053&sspn=0.032223,0.077162&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Golden+Acres,+Dunedin,+Florida&ll=28.021151,-82.776146&spn=0.037733,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=28.021025,-82.77616&panoid=xNRTwO7yNZ3nUuRjL_u7yA&cbp=12,0,,0,5.
Apart from the somewhat unsightly water tower, that's a rather nice trailer park, even by Florida's http://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/Forms/BMHRV/15C1Finl.pdf for trailer parks! You're living the life, Jimbo, aren't you? We're glad you've landed on your feet after Christine kicked you out of the old house. I wonder if you're on a http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=357634924&oldid=357634748?
By the way, just to test how accurate is this Twitter geo-location feature, I gave it a try, and it properly pegged me to my http://eastbradford.org/publicinfo/Maps/ZoningMap.pdf, despite living quite close to its southern boundary.
Posted by: MZMcBride
This is like the 1,000th Jimmy Wales-related topic you've started. I can't decide if you're bored, obsessed, creepy, or some combination of the three. I'm considering staging an intervention.
Posted by: the fieryangel
QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 8:26pm) 
This is like the 1,000th Jimmy Wales-related topic you've started. I can't decide if you're bored, obsessed, creepy, or some combination of the three. I'm considering staging an intervention.
um, since this is a Wikipedia Criticism site...and Jimbo has something to do with Wikipedia...I would think that this is pretty much on topic....and living in a trailer park kinda goes against the "rock star" lifestyle that the media likes to grant to Mr. Wales.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 4:26pm)
...like the 1,000th Jimmy Wales-related topic you've started...
How about you do an actual count of all the topics I've started here at WR, then you count all that are Jimmy Wales-related, and then we'll assess whether or not I need a "WR intervention" or a "Jimmy Wales-related on WR intervention"?
Posted by: GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 3:55pm)
QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 4:26pm)
...like the 1,000th Jimmy Wales-related topic you've started...
How about you do an actual count of all the topics I've started here at WR, then you count all that are Jimmy Wales-related, and then we'll assess whether or not I need a "WR intervention" or a "Jimmy Wales-related on WR intervention"?
I alway enjoy your jabs at Mr. Wales.
Posted by: dogbiscuit
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 10:08pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 3:55pm)
QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 4:26pm)
...like the 1,000th Jimmy Wales-related topic you've started...
How about you do an actual count of all the topics I've started here at WR, then you count all that are Jimmy Wales-related, and then we'll assess whether or not I need a "WR intervention" or a "Jimmy Wales-related on WR intervention"?
I alway enjoy your jabs at Mr. Wales.
I rarely enjoy Mr McBride's jabs at Greg.
Posted by: anthony
QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 8:41pm)
living in a trailer park kinda goes against the "rock star" lifestyle that the media likes to grant to Mr. Wales.
I'm also pretty sure there are rock stars that have a trailer park as their "sole residence". After all, if you're a rock star, you're pretty much a transient anyway.
Nevermind. Misread your post.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 12:26pm)
Twitter.com has a http://twitter.zendesk.com/forums/26810/entries/78525 that allows you to disclose the location from which your tweet is twittering.
It looks like Jimbo Wales tried out the feature on http://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/13093255182. Now, when you learn where his location was, it might strike you as a bit funny -- indeed, it may even make you twitter. Jimbo doesn't like people giggling at him, so it's possible he will exercise his right to...
QUOTE
You may delete all location information from your past tweets.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
Therefore, we have helped to keep free information open and free, posting Jimbo's self-disclosed location http://www.wikipediareview.com/File:Jimbo_in_Golden_Acres.jpg for posterity.
Jimbo's Twitter account posted from http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Golden+Acres,+Dunedin,+FL&sll=41.073277,-111.971053&sspn=0.032223,0.077162&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Golden+Acres,+Dunedin,+Florida&ll=28.021151,-82.776146&spn=0.037733,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=28.021025,-82.77616&panoid=xNRTwO7yNZ3nUuRjL_u7yA&cbp=12,0,,0,5.
Apart from the somewhat unsightly water tower, that's a rather nice trailer park, even by Florida's http://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/Forms/BMHRV/15C1Finl.pdf for trailer parks! You're living the life, Jimbo, aren't you? We're glad you've landed on your feet after Christine kicked you out of the old house. I wonder if you're on a http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=357634924&oldid=357634748?
Okay, this totally invites the question of whether he actually LIVES there, or just happens to be sleeping with a trailer-
Trailers for rent or sleep,
Rooms to get, pretty cheap.
No wife, no Wii, no weed;
I now have a twitter feed--
But ah, two hours of blocking trolls
Gives me back concrete goals;
I'm the king of my domain--
King of my s
Posted by: GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 5:23pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 12:26pm)
Twitter.com has a http://twitter.zendesk.com/forums/26810/entries/78525 that allows you to disclose the location from which your tweet is twittering.
It looks like Jimbo Wales tried out the feature on http://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/13093255182. Now, when you learn where his location was, it might strike you as a bit funny -- indeed, it may even make you twitter. Jimbo doesn't like people giggling at him, so it's possible he will exercise his right to...
QUOTE
You may delete all location information from your past tweets.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
Therefore, we have helped to keep free information open and free, posting Jimbo's self-disclosed location http://www.wikipediareview.com/File:Jimbo_in_Golden_Acres.jpg for posterity.
Jimbo's Twitter account posted from http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Golden+Acres,+Dunedin,+FL&sll=41.073277,-111.971053&sspn=0.032223,0.077162&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Golden+Acres,+Dunedin,+Florida&ll=28.021151,-82.776146&spn=0.037733,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=28.021025,-82.77616&panoid=xNRTwO7yNZ3nUuRjL_u7yA&cbp=12,0,,0,5.
Apart from the somewhat unsightly water tower, that's a rather nice trailer park, even by Florida's http://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/Forms/BMHRV/15C1Finl.pdf for trailer parks! You're living the life, Jimbo, aren't you? We're glad you've landed on your feet after Christine kicked you out of the old house. I wonder if you're on a http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=357634924&oldid=357634748?
Okay, this totally invites the question of whether he actually LIVES there, or just happens to be sleeping with a trailer-
Trailers for rent or sleep
Rooms to get, pretty cheap
No wife, no Wii, no weed
I now have a twitter feed
But ah, two hours of blocking trolls
Gives me back concrete goals;
I'm the god-king of my domain name
King of my s
Only one way to find out. Watch eBay auctions.
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 6:23pm)
Okay, this totally invites the question of whether he actually LIVES there, or just happens to be sleeping with a trailer-
Damn right. "Slumming", outside of urban areas, generally involves trailer parks. Many trailer parks offer broadband wifi these days.
Face it, Greg: Jimmy Wales is the Tiger Woods of the interwebs. He's always gonna get more pootintang than, say, you
.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 3:29pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 5:23pm)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 12:26pm)
Twitter.com has a http://twitter.zendesk.com/forums/26810/entries/78525 that allows you to disclose the location from which your tweet is twittering.
It looks like Jimbo Wales tried out the feature on http://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/13093255182. Now, when you learn where his location was, it might strike you as a bit funny -- indeed, it may even make you twitter. Jimbo doesn't like people giggling at him, so it's possible he will exercise his right to...
QUOTE
You may delete all location information from your past tweets.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
Therefore, we have helped to keep free information open and free, posting Jimbo's self-disclosed location http://www.wikipediareview.com/File:Jimbo_in_Golden_Acres.jpg for posterity.
Jimbo's Twitter account posted from http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Golden+Acres,+Dunedin,+FL&sll=41.073277,-111.971053&sspn=0.032223,0.077162&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Golden+Acres,+Dunedin,+Florida&ll=28.021151,-82.776146&spn=0.037733,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=28.021025,-82.77616&panoid=xNRTwO7yNZ3nUuRjL_u7yA&cbp=12,0,,0,5.
Apart from the somewhat unsightly water tower, that's a rather nice trailer park, even by Florida's http://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/Forms/BMHRV/15C1Finl.pdf for trailer parks! You're living the life, Jimbo, aren't you? We're glad you've landed on your feet after Christine kicked you out of the old house. I wonder if you're on a http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=357634924&oldid=357634748?
Okay, this totally invites the question of whether he actually LIVES there, or just happens to be sleeping with a trailer-
Trailers for rent or sleep
Rooms to get, pretty cheap
No wife, no Wii, no weed
I now have a twitter feed
But ah, two hours of blocking trolls
Gives me back concrete goals;
I'm the king of my domain--
King of my s
Only one way to find out. Watch eBay auctions.
No, no, that's for the fine Canadian tail. The trailer sort, just shoot you. We'll have to watch COPS, or American Justice. However, I believe it's the case that women who shoot people don't get their own BLPs if they're in any way related to WMF.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 12:26pm)
Twitter.com has a http://twitter.zendesk.com/forums/26810/entries/78525 that allows you to disclose the location from which your tweet is twittering.
It looks like Jimbo Wales tried out the feature on http://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/13093255182. Now, when you learn where his location was, it might strike you as a bit funny -- indeed, it may even make you twitter. Jimbo doesn't like people giggling at him, so it's possible he will exercise his right to...
QUOTE
You may delete all location information from your past tweets.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
Therefore, we have helped to keep free information open and free, posting Jimbo's self-disclosed location http://www.wikipediareview.com/File:Jimbo_in_Golden_Acres.jpg for posterity.
Jimbo's Twitter account posted from http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Golden+Acres,+Dunedin,+FL&sll=41.073277,-111.971053&sspn=0.032223,0.077162&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Golden+Acres,+Dunedin,+Florida&ll=28.021151,-82.776146&spn=0.037733,0.077162&z=14&layer=c&cbll=28.021025,-82.77616&panoid=xNRTwO7yNZ3nUuRjL_u7yA&cbp=12,0,,0,5.
Apart from the somewhat unsightly water tower, that's a rather nice trailer park, even by Florida's http://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/Forms/BMHRV/15C1Finl.pdf for trailer parks! You're living the life, Jimbo, aren't you? We're glad you've landed on your feet after Christine kicked you out of the old house. I wonder if you're on a http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=357634924&oldid=357634748?
http://www.city-data.com/neighborhood/Golden-Acres-Dunedin-FL.html
Considering the name also, the whole thing seems to certered around low-income retirement stuff.
Probably it is mom. Though still true Jimbo's always gunna get more 'tang than you, Greg.
Posted by: anthony
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 11:01pm)
Probably it is mom.
"I bought Jimmy Wales his first World Book Encyclopedia and all I got was this lousy mobile home"?
Posted by: Somey
QUOTE(anthony @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 6:14pm)
"I bought Jimmy Wales his first World Book Encyclopedia and all I got was this lousy mobile home"?
You'd think Jimbo would want his mom to live in a highly individualistic and bold architectural statement of some sort, surely?
Posted by: anthony
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 11:01pm)
Considering the name also, the whole thing seems to certered around low-income retirement stuff.
Images from http://www.goldenacresfl.com/www.goldenacresfl.com/Newsletter.html used without permission
Posted by: SB_Johnny
QUOTE(Somey @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 7:16pm)
QUOTE(anthony @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 6:14pm)
"I bought Jimmy Wales his first World Book Encyclopedia and all I got was this lousy mobile home"?
You'd think Jimbo would want his mom to live in a highly individualistic and bold architectural statement of some sort, surely?
Well, surely he also wants to maintain some sort of connection to "the little people". Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he parked his mom in a trailer to get some "street cred".
After all, I can't imagine his mom was all too thrilled with the porn search thing, and we all know how well he treats people who disagree with him.
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 3:26pm)
This is like the 1,000th Jimmy Wales-related topic you've started. I can't decide if you're bored, obsessed, creepy, or some combination of the three. I'm considering staging an intervention.
That would be quite a sight.
Posted by: Somey
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 6:26pm)
Well, surely he also wants to maintain some sort of connection to "the little people"...
I thought you were more familiar with the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_%28Ayn_Rand%29 than that? As Ayn might have said, the little people deserve their littleness, simply by virtue of their lack of bigness.
Posted by: Cock-up-over-conspiracy
QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 11:26pm)
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he parked his mom in a trailer to get some "street cred".
After all, I can't imagine his mom was all too thrilled with the porn search thing, and we all know how well he treats people who disagree with him.
After all, I can't imagine his mom was all too thrilled with the porn search thing, and we all know how well he treats people who disagree with him.
Or because he is a mean b'tard who knows about how to give back to people as little as possible (nothing) who made him (mothers and Wikipedia contributors) ... May be his ex-wife's published opinion is more to the point.
Hold on ... this is the guy that makes five figured speaking fees ($x0,000) and you are saying his mom lives inhttp://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&q=golden+acres+dunedin&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=&hnear=Golden+Acres,+Dunedin,+Florida&ll=28.021303,-82.770224&spn=0.005361,0.018325&z=16&layer=c&cbll=28.021222,-82.776164&panoid=acQep4blrThvy7JUaop1TQ&cbp=11,95.95,,0,5.13? Does she know what her son does? Can this confirmed? The whole area is Google mapped so you can take a drive around.
Meanwhile ... over at http://hunch.com/people/jimmywales/ where Jimmy of Dunedin, FL is a board director, he is worth 27,065 banjos for his 22 contributions (certainly more banjos than Greg too). He tells us that he "Supports curiosity and innovation in the child" ... which probably explains why he is so keen to have his educational Encyclopedia to be filled full of amateur porn and pederastry.
Posted by: Cock-up-over-conspiracy
The Hunch crew seem to http://hunch.com/collective-knowledge-sites/wikipedia/1227483/ too.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(anthony @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 4:18pm)
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 11:01pm)
Considering the name also, the whole thing seems to [be] certered around low-income retirement stuff.
Images from http://www.goldenacresfl.com/www.goldenacresfl.com/Newsletter.html used without permission
You know, I can say "Would one of you just shoot me before I go to..." all I like, and I know it won't happen. And I myself will change my mind.
It's all part of the cycle of life. I've actually seen far worse. Far, far, worse.
Hakuna matata. Sans souci. Chill. Maybe they will have legallized really good
Posted by: Moulton
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 6:23pm)
Trailers for rent or sleep,
Rooms to get, pretty cheap.
No wife, no Wii, no weed;
I now have a twitter feed--
But ah, two hours of blocking trolls
Gives me back concrete goals;
I'm the god-king of my domain name--
King of my shite
Rooms to get, pretty cheap.
No wife, no Wii, no weed;
I now have a twitter feed--
But ah, two hours of blocking trolls
Gives me back concrete goals;
I'm the god-king of my domain name--
King of my s
Moar song parodies!
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(Moulton @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 6:23pm)
Moar song parodies!
Don't encourage me.
Larry, Sanger
Give us your answer, do.
We'd all like to
Know WP's in poo.
But we think that sec. 230
Will keep them getting dirty.
And you'll go right
Back to your site
That we know no one ever views....
Posted by: NotARepublican55
QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 3:26pm)
This is like the 1,000th Jimmy Wales-related topic you've started. I can't decide if you're bored, obsessed, creepy, or some combination of the three. I'm considering staging an intervention.
What's the difference between obsessed and creepy?
Posted by: Cock-up-over-conspiracy
Where ever Jimmy lives, and who ever it is with, you can rest assured ... it is a HOUSE OF FUN!
It is Madness.
.
QUOTE
Good morning Jimmy
Can I help you mom?
More porn today?
I am up for fun
I'm a big boy now
Did Sue say?
Search my servers
It'll make your day!
Pages of nudes
With legs spread great
Animated cocks
That ejaculate
Woman in a dog mask
Kneeling on all fours
Tied up in rubber
Little Richie shagging her indoors
Welcome to the House of Fun
We dont care your age
Welcome to the House of Fun
Welcome to the Wiki porn
Temptation's on your way
Welcome to the House of
N-n-n-n-n-n-no no Jimmy
You misunderstood
You're my little boy
Put away your manhood
The kids see it all
It cannot stay
So if you will delete
We'll be on our way
Welcome to the House of Fun
We dont care your age
Welcome to the House of Fun
Welcome to the Wiki porn
Temptation's on your way
Welcome to the House of (Fun)
I'm sorry son
You're starting to shock
Skinflick whores?
You've lost the plot
Autofellation?
That's just not done
You call this education
For a developing nation!
Pedophiles ...
A pissing goat
Fisted vagina
That woman will choke!
Bondage dykess
With clamped up tits
Naked children's
Showing their bits
A cartoon of incest
Daddy showing daughter what mommy likes best.
Welcome to the House of Fun
We dont care your age
Welcome to the House of Fun
Welcome to the Wiki porn
Temptation's on your way
Welcome to the House of (Fun)
Welcome to the House of Fun.
Can I help you mom?
More porn today?
I am up for fun
I'm a big boy now
Did Sue say?
Search my servers
It'll make your day!
Pages of nudes
With legs spread great
Animated cocks
That ejaculate
Woman in a dog mask
Kneeling on all fours
Tied up in rubber
Little Richie shagging her indoors
Welcome to the House of Fun
We dont care your age
Welcome to the House of Fun
Welcome to the Wiki porn
Temptation's on your way
Welcome to the House of
N-n-n-n-n-n-no no Jimmy
You misunderstood
You're my little boy
Put away your manhood
The kids see it all
It cannot stay
So if you will delete
We'll be on our way
Welcome to the House of Fun
We dont care your age
Welcome to the House of Fun
Welcome to the Wiki porn
Temptation's on your way
Welcome to the House of (Fun)
I'm sorry son
You're starting to shock
Skinflick whores?
You've lost the plot
Autofellation?
That's just not done
You call this education
For a developing nation!
Pedophiles ...
A pissing goat
Fisted vagina
That woman will choke!
Bondage dykess
With clamped up tits
Naked children's
Showing their bits
A cartoon of incest
Daddy showing daughter what mommy likes best.
Welcome to the House of Fun
We dont care your age
Welcome to the House of Fun
Welcome to the Wiki porn
Temptation's on your way
Welcome to the House of (Fun)
Welcome to the House of Fun.
Posted by: Cock-up-over-conspiracy
Actually, this topic was very old news ... good article. It looks like it was the family bungalow before the split. Not a trailer.
QUOTE
http://reason.com/archives/2007/05/30/wikipedia-and-beyond (abridged)
Katherine Mangu-Ward from the June 2007 issue
Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia, lives in a house fit for a grandmother. The progenitor and public face of one of the 10 most popular websites in the world beds down in a one-story bungalow on a cul-de-sac near St. Petersburg, Florida. The neighborhood, with its scrubby vegetation and plastic lawn furniture, screams "Bingo Night." Inside the house, the décor is minimal, and the stucco and cool tile floors make the place echo. A few potted plants bravely attempt domesticity. Out front sits a cherry red Hyundai.
I arrive at Wales' house on a gray, humid day in December. It's 11 a.m., and after wrapping up some emails on his white Mac iBook, Wales proposes lunch. We hit the mean streets of Gulf Coast Florida in the Hyundai, in search of "this really great Indian place that's part of a motel," and wind up cruising for hours-stopping at Starbucks, hitting the mall, and generally duplicating the average day of millions of suburban teenagers.
Despite his modest digs, Wales is an Internet rock star .. Asked about the secret to Wikipedia's success, Wales says simply, "We make the Internet not suck." ...
Wales characterizes the dispute with Sanger as a fight over the "project's radically open nature" and the question of "whether there was a role for an editor in chief" in the new project. Sanger says he wanted to implement the "common-sense" rules that "experts and specialists should be given some particular respect when writing in their areas of expertise." ...
They also differed over whether advertising should be permitted on the site. Not only does Wikipedia allow anyone to write or edit any article, but the site contains no ads.
Wikipedia's other major scandal hasn't been quite as easy for Wales to laugh off, because he was the culprit. In 2005 he was caught with his hand on the edit button, taking advantage of Wikipedia's open editing policy to remove Larry Sanger from the encyclopedia's official history of itself.
Wikipedia's decision not to censor its content selectively in order to meet the demands of the Chinese government was easy, since it would be almost impossible to do anyway.
Daughter Kira stands in front of a board, wearing a dirndl and reciting facts about Germany. Asked where she did her research, she cops to using Wikipedia for part of the project.
Wales smiles sheepishly; the Wikipedia revolution has penetrated even his own small bungalow.
Katherine Mangu-Ward from the June 2007 issue
Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia, lives in a house fit for a grandmother. The progenitor and public face of one of the 10 most popular websites in the world beds down in a one-story bungalow on a cul-de-sac near St. Petersburg, Florida. The neighborhood, with its scrubby vegetation and plastic lawn furniture, screams "Bingo Night." Inside the house, the décor is minimal, and the stucco and cool tile floors make the place echo. A few potted plants bravely attempt domesticity. Out front sits a cherry red Hyundai.
I arrive at Wales' house on a gray, humid day in December. It's 11 a.m., and after wrapping up some emails on his white Mac iBook, Wales proposes lunch. We hit the mean streets of Gulf Coast Florida in the Hyundai, in search of "this really great Indian place that's part of a motel," and wind up cruising for hours-stopping at Starbucks, hitting the mall, and generally duplicating the average day of millions of suburban teenagers.
Despite his modest digs, Wales is an Internet rock star .. Asked about the secret to Wikipedia's success, Wales says simply, "We make the Internet not suck." ...
Wales characterizes the dispute with Sanger as a fight over the "project's radically open nature" and the question of "whether there was a role for an editor in chief" in the new project. Sanger says he wanted to implement the "common-sense" rules that "experts and specialists should be given some particular respect when writing in their areas of expertise." ...
They also differed over whether advertising should be permitted on the site. Not only does Wikipedia allow anyone to write or edit any article, but the site contains no ads.
Wikipedia's other major scandal hasn't been quite as easy for Wales to laugh off, because he was the culprit. In 2005 he was caught with his hand on the edit button, taking advantage of Wikipedia's open editing policy to remove Larry Sanger from the encyclopedia's official history of itself.
Wikipedia's decision not to censor its content selectively in order to meet the demands of the Chinese government was easy, since it would be almost impossible to do anyway.
Daughter Kira stands in front of a board, wearing a dirndl and reciting facts about Germany. Asked where she did her research, she cops to using Wikipedia for part of the project.
Wales smiles sheepishly; the Wikipedia revolution has penetrated even his own small bungalow.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Tue 11th May 2010, 12:40am)
Actually, this topic was very old news ... good article. It looks like it was the family bungalow before the split. Not a trailer.
You're decidedly wrong about this, Cock-up.
The bungalow was http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3911+Harrisburg+Street+Northeast,+St.+Petersburg,+FL&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.847644,77.958984&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=3911+Harrisburg+St+NE,+St+Petersburg,+Pinellas,+Florida+33703&ll=27.80784,-82.606137&spn=0.009224,0.019033&z=16&layer=c&cbll=27.807736,-82.606175&panoid=Qg0bSVMNSmzpKvMUAsP3Ew&cbp=12,96.51,,0,4.7, former headquarters mailing address of the Wikimedia Foundation and the Wales manor. They sold that http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3911-Harrisburg-St-NE-Saint-Petersburg-FL-33703/46978829_zpid/. There is no earthly reason why Jimbo would be tweeting recently from that location, and then having Twitter mark it as Golden Acres, some 23 miles away from the old homestead.
Posted by: Cock-up-over-conspiracy
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 11th May 2010, 12:03pm)
You're decidedly wrong about this, Cock-up.
My apologies, I stand corrected.
I'd download Google Earth and start scouring the neighborhood for a Red Hyundai ... or did that go to the wife as well?
Good article above though, I thought.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Tue 11th May 2010, 9:24am)
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 11th May 2010, 12:03pm)
You're decidedly wrong about this, Cock-up.
My apologies, I stand corrected.
I'd download Google Earth and start scouring the neighborhood for a Red Hyundai ... or did that go to the wife as well?
Good article above though, I thought.
Agreed.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE
Pointing to a data set he feels could benefit from less transparency, Wales discussed Florida property records, which are now required to be posted online, allowing everyone to see how much people paid for their homes.
While he agrees these records should be available to the public, Wales said in the past such information was available to people who went to a courthouse to actively seek it, but "it's a different animal" when it's up on the Internet.
"Information that was previously legally public was a lot of work to go and get it," he said. "I would say some of the things we thought of as OK to be public in past we may not want to be public anymore."
(http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=466&doc_id=192787)
While he agrees these records should be available to the public, Wales said in the past such information was available to people who went to a courthouse to actively seek it, but "it's a different animal" when it's up on the Internet.
"Information that was previously legally public was a lot of work to go and get it," he said. "I would say some of the things we thought of as OK to be public in past we may not want to be public anymore."
Posted by: Cock-up-over-conspiracy
QUOTE
Pointing to a data set he feels could benefit from less transparency, Wales discussed Florida property records, which are now required to be posted online, allowing everyone to see how much people paid for their homes.
While he agrees these records should be available to the public, Wales said in the past such information was available to people who went to a courthouse to actively seek it, but "it's a different animal" when it's up on the Internet.
"Information that was previously legally public was a lot of work to go and get it," he said. "I would say some of the things we thought of as OK to be public in past we may not want to be public anymore."
While he agrees these records should be available to the public, Wales said in the past such information was available to people who went to a courthouse to actively seek it, but "it's a different animal" when it's up on the Internet.
"Information that was previously legally public was a lot of work to go and get it," he said. "I would say some of the things we thought of as OK to be public in past we may not want to be public anymore."
Hmmn ... a nine page mortgage in joint names with SUNTRUST BANK, power of attorney over Christine etc ... yah, its all there in the name of Jimmy Wales ... may be more.
Try, https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order?thisPage=MyFloridaCounty.ORI.Order.state.Start if you want to buy a copy of the original documents.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Fri 4th June 2010, 11:44am)
Hmmn ... a nine page mortgage in joint names with SUNTRUST BANK, power of attorney over Christine etc ... yah, its all there in the name of Jimmy Wales ... may be more.
Try, https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order?thisPage=MyFloridaCounty.ORI.Order.state.Start if you want to buy a copy of the original documents.
Order From To Date Document Type County Instrument Number Book/Page Pages
COUNTRYWIDE HOME LOANS INC;
COUNTRYWIDE FUNDING CORP WALES CHRISTINE A;
WALES JIMMY D 01/07/2008 SATISFACTION PINELLAS 2008005324 16108/886 1
Description:
SUNTRUST BANK WALES JIMMY D;
WALES CHRISTINA A;
WALES CHRISTINE 01/10/2008 SATISFACTION PINELLAS 2008010298 16114/1113 1
Description:
WALES CHRISTINA A;
WALES JIMMY D;
WALES CHRISTINE SUNTRUST BANK 03/20/2006 MORTGAGE PINELLAS 2006101586 14999/1924 9
Description: LT 23 BLK 18 OVERLOOK SEC SHORE ACRES
WALES CHRISTINE A;
FIDELITY NATL TITLE INS CO;
WALES JIMMY D 12/18/2007 AFFIDAVIT PINELLAS 2007396196 16091/1558 2
Description:
WALES JIMMY DONAL WALES CHRISTINE ANNE 12/18/2007 POWER OF ATTORNEY PINELLAS 2007396195 16091/1552 6
Description:
WALES JIMMY D;
WALES CHRISTINE A KARIPODI ABDUL K;
MAHMOOD JAZBEEN 12/18/2007 DEED PINELLAS 2007396197 16091/1560 2
Description: LT 23 BLK 18 OVERLOOK SEC SHORE ACRES
I would say this is simply the paper trail from when Jimmy and Christine sold their house at 3911 Harrisburg Street (post separation, presumably) to Abdul Karipodi and Jazbeen Mahmood. Then the mortgage was cleared through the bank and (probably) another bank that was doing the servicing.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3911-Harrisburg-St-NE-Saint-Petersburg-FL-33703/46978829_zpid/ Zillow.com, Jimbo purchased the home in June 2002 for $180,000, then after five years in the home listed it for sale for $264,000 on Veterans Day 2007. After 5 weeks on the market, Jimbo and Christine settled for an offer of $230,000 by Abdul and Jazbeen. Jimbo then had his affair with Rachel in February of 2008.
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 4th June 2010, 9:39am)
QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Fri 4th June 2010, 11:44am)
Hmmn ... a nine page mortgage in joint names with SUNTRUST BANK, power of attorney over Christine etc ... yah, its all there in the name of Jimmy Wales ... may be more.
Try, https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order?thisPage=MyFloridaCounty.ORI.Order.state.Start if you want to buy a copy of the original documents.
Order From To Date Document Type County Instrument Number Book/Page Pages
COUNTRYWIDE HOME LOANS INC;
COUNTRYWIDE FUNDING CORP WALES CHRISTINE A;
WALES JIMMY D 01/07/2008 SATISFACTION PINELLAS 2008005324 16108/886 1
Description:
SUNTRUST BANK WALES JIMMY D;
WALES CHRISTINA A;
WALES CHRISTINE 01/10/2008 SATISFACTION PINELLAS 2008010298 16114/1113 1
Description:
WALES CHRISTINA A;
WALES JIMMY D;
WALES CHRISTINE SUNTRUST BANK 03/20/2006 MORTGAGE PINELLAS 2006101586 14999/1924 9
Description: LT 23 BLK 18 OVERLOOK SEC SHORE ACRES
WALES CHRISTINE A;
FIDELITY NATL TITLE INS CO;
WALES JIMMY D 12/18/2007 AFFIDAVIT PINELLAS 2007396196 16091/1558 2
Description:
WALES JIMMY DONAL WALES CHRISTINE ANNE 12/18/2007 POWER OF ATTORNEY PINELLAS 2007396195 16091/1552 6
Description:
WALES JIMMY D;
WALES CHRISTINE A KARIPODI ABDUL K;
MAHMOOD JAZBEEN 12/18/2007 DEED PINELLAS 2007396197 16091/1560 2
Description: LT 23 BLK 18 OVERLOOK SEC SHORE ACRES
I would say this is simply the paper trail from when Jimmy and Christine sold their house at 3911 Harrisburg Street (post separation, presumably) to Abdul Karipodi and Jazbeen Mahmood. Then the mortgage was cleared through the bank and (probably) another bank that was doing the servicing.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3911-Harrisburg-St-NE-Saint-Petersburg-FL-33703/46978829_zpid/ Zillow.com, Jimbo purchased the home in June 2002 for $180,000, then after five years in the home listed it for sale for $264,000 on Veterans Day 2007. After 5 weeks on the market, Jimbo and Christine settled for an offer of $230,000 by Abdul and Jazbeen. Jimbo then had his affair with Rachel in February of 2008.
Okay, it's reliably-sourced verifiable public info about a notable person. Please add it to his BLP.
Posted by: Moulton
More to the point, shouldn't Dunedin have an article at least as long as Wyandanch?
Posted by: Kelly Martin
QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 11th May 2010, 7:03am)
There is no earthly reason why Jimbo would be tweeting recently from that location, and then having Twitter mark it as Golden Acres, some 23 miles away from the old homestead.
When Jimbo sold the old house he bought another one, but that house was vested into a trust so that they could conceal his address from public records.It's fairly clear that Jimmy's attitude on public records is that they're great for everyone else but he, personally, needs to be kept out of them. It's fairly obvious that Jimmy ascribes to the Heinleinian notion that rules and laws are for ordinary people only, and that extraordinary people like himself should not be required to follow them. I find his comments on the sex offender registry especially curious; I've never heard even the slightest rumor to suggest that any of the many women he's had affairs with over the years were anything but of legal age.
Posted by: Moulton
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Fri 4th June 2010, 3:16pm)
It's fairly obvious that Jimmy ascribes to the Heinleinian notion that rules and laws are for ordinary people only, and that extraordinary people like himself should not be required to follow them.
Assuming that the above is true, what's the best ethical practice for dealing with such a person?
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 4th June 2010, 12:29pm)
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Fri 4th June 2010, 3:16pm)
It's fairly obvious that Jimmy ascribes to the Heinleinian notion that rules and laws are for ordinary people only, and that extraordinary people like himself should not be required to follow them.
Assuming that the above is true, what's the best ethical practice for dealing with such a person?
Heinleinian Coventry! A trip to an isolated place where everybody is just like him. Before that, we're stuck with eye-for-an-eye.
And no, eye-for-eye doesn't make the whole world blind. Just the sons-of-bitches.
Posted by: CharlotteWebb
QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 4th June 2010, 7:29pm)
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Fri 4th June 2010, 3:16pm)
It's fairly obvious that Jimmy ascribes to the Heinleinian notion that rules and laws are for ordinary people only, and that extraordinary people like himself should not be required to follow them.
Assuming that the above is true, what's the best ethical practice for dealing with such a person?
If you can't enforce 'em, repeal 'em.
Posted by: One
QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 10:12pm)
I rarely enjoy Mr McBride's jabs at Greg.
I didn't know that MZMcBride made regular jabs. I was under the impression that MZM made some sort of ballsy defense of Thekohser on Wikipedia, which led to something or another. Details hazy in my mind.
Anyhow, I would stop (just) short of calling it "creepy," but this obsession is certainly Thekohser's least attractive feature on Wikipedia Review.
Posted by: Moulton
Kato was similarly obsessed, but gradually toned it down. In the end, I rather doubt all this needling will enhance or damage either of their statures, or the stature of W-R.
Greg is at his best when he's being creative. Some of his more creative exercises were quite delightful.
Posted by: Cock-up-over-conspiracy
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Fri 4th June 2010, 7:16pm)
It's fairly clear that Jimmy's attitude on public records is that they're great for everyone else but he, personally, needs to be kept out of them.
It's fairly obvious that Jimmy ascribes to the Heinleinian notion that rules and laws are for ordinary people only, and that extraordinary people like himself should not be required to follow them.
It's fairly obvious that Jimmy ascribes to the Heinleinian notion that rules and laws are for ordinary people only, and that extraordinary people like himself should not be required to follow them.
And in this there is the justification for having a closer look.
Strange from the man who suggest that everyone's biography should be documented on the Wikipedia where it could be edited by any jerk off at any time requiring a slavish, cult-like commitment from everyone to monitor and protect it ... the King of Crowd Source BLPs.
Do we know the name of the trust?
What we need is local Wales Hunter to ride around on a Sunday morning looking for that giveaway red Hyundai.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(One @ Fri 4th June 2010, 6:25pm)
Anyhow, I would stop (just) short of calling it "creepy," but this obsession is certainly Thekohser's least attractive feature on Wikipedia Review.
Well, if I'm "creepy", you're "creepy minus 1" for being nearly obsessed with pointing out how often I point out how silly Jimmy Wales is.
You want me to switch to another subject or something, like the Detroit Lions, or maybe online gambling?
Here's something I am honestly curious about -- out of my last X threads started, what percentage have their topical focus on Jimbo alone? Since you're nearly obsessed with it, could you do the math for me, One?
Posted by: GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 4th June 2010, 6:43pm)
You want me to switch to another subject or something, like the Detroit Lions, or maybe online gambling?
I'm surprised at your silence on the Armando Galarraga perfect game heist.
Posted by: EricBarbour
QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Fri 4th June 2010, 5:25pm)
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Fri 4th June 2010, 7:16pm)
It's fairly clear that Jimmy's attitude on public records is that they're great for everyone else but he, personally, needs to be kept out of them.
Strange from the man who suggest that everyone's biography should be documented on the Wikipedia where it could be edited by any jerk off at any time requiring a slavish, cult-like commitment from everyone to monitor and protect it ... the King of Crowd Source BLPs.When you boil it all down, Mr. Wales is an arrogant little toad, with an unusual talent for manipulating people.
And a consummate liar (though not especially talented in the lying area).
50 years ago a guy like him might have been a door-to-door salesman, or perhaps a pawnshop owner.
Wikipedia is nothing more than a gigantic online pawnshop. With warfare.
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 4th June 2010, 5:43pm)
QUOTE(One @ Fri 4th June 2010, 6:25pm)
Anyhow, I would stop (just) short of calling it "creepy," but this obsession is certainly Thekohser's least attractive feature on Wikipedia Review.
Well, if I'm "creepy", you're "creepy minus 1" for being nearly obsessed with pointing out how often I point out how silly Jimmy Wales is.(bonk)
Arise, Duke of Luke, And Holy Hero Of Ye Arbcom!
Ye Knight Of The Realm! Defender Of The Hapless Jimbo!
Posted by: One
QUOTE(thekohser @ Sat 5th June 2010, 12:43am)
QUOTE(One @ Fri 4th June 2010, 6:25pm)
Anyhow, I would stop (just) short of calling it "creepy," but this obsession is certainly Thekohser's least attractive feature on Wikipedia Review.
Well, if I'm "creepy", you're "creepy minus 1" for being nearly obsessed with pointing out how often I point out how silly Jimmy Wales is.
Or (just) short of creepy minus One, as the case may be.
I'm not really interested in the question, but if you ask nicely, I might make a chart. I don't think it consumes your life or anything, just that it tends to be your least interesting commentary.
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sat 5th June 2010, 12:50am)
I'm surprised at your silence on the Armando Galarraga perfect game heist.
More famous for being "robbed" than he would have ever been for having a perfect game.
Posted by: dogbiscuit
QUOTE(One @ Sat 5th June 2010, 2:30am)
I don't think it consumes your life or anything, just that it tends to be your least interesting commentary.
Much as there is a side of me that enjoys a fool having his foolishness pointed out, I'm afraid that Greg does overdo it. I don't think Jimbo is at all trustworthy or able, but Greg's continuous digs lack the killer blow, Jimbo's money indiscretions are small beer in the grand scheme of things. Greg's tireless research though, where he picks out the sheer empty-headedness of Our Leader, is worthwhile.
I think the tactics are wrong, and the scatter-gun approach just creates an immunity to him. Wikipedia needs its own blockade-breeching flotilla, where Jimbo's response is so appallingly ill-thought out that the world finally takes notice. The Porn Saga got close. Perhaps some really crass reporting of the Cumberland shootings would help.
Posted by: GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(One @ Fri 4th June 2010, 7:30pm)
More famous for being "robbed" than he would have ever been for having a perfect game.
Although a perfect game on the books is nothing to sneer at I think that's right. "We've been robbed" has a great tradition in baseball. I heard Ken Burns comment on the matter last night. He thinks Galarraga will ultimately get the perfect game credited but only after much time passes and it doesn't signal a general loosening up on baseball's closet of wrongs. That's probably the best of all worlds to Galarraga.
Posted by: anthony
QUOTE(thekohser @ Sat 5th June 2010, 12:43am)
You want me to switch to another subject or something, like the Detroit Lions, or maybe online gambling?
Is there any software available for online "home games" (no rake, everyone knows each other, winnings are settled via gentle(wo)man's honor)? What's the legal status of such games? Is there a federal law, or is it state by state? Which state law applies, all states where there are participants?
Posted by: Milton Roe
QUOTE(anthony @ Fri 4th June 2010, 7:14pm)
Is there any software available for online "home games" (no rake, everyone knows each other, winnings are settled via gentle(wo)man's honor)?
Putting on Horsey personna. Yeah, let's have those games where winnings are settled via some gentlewoman's honor! Sounds like strip poker but better.
Oh, wait. You said no rake.
Posted by: anthony
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 5th June 2010, 2:25am)
QUOTE(anthony @ Fri 4th June 2010, 7:14pm)
Is there any software available for online "home games" (no rake, everyone knows each other, winnings are settled via gentle(wo)man's honor)?
Putting on Horsey personna. Yeah, let's have those games where winnings are settled via some gentlewoman's honor! Sounds like strip poker but better.
Oh, wait. You said no rake.
oops
Posted by: A Horse With No Name
QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 4th June 2010, 3:29pm)
Assuming that the above is true, what's the best ethical practice for dealing with such a person?
With tongs.
QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Fri 4th June 2010, 10:25pm)
QUOTE(anthony @ Fri 4th June 2010, 7:14pm)
Is there any software available for online "home games" (no rake, everyone knows each other, winnings are settled via gentle(wo)man's honor)?
Putting on Horsey personna. Yeah, let's have those games where winnings are settled via some gentlewoman's honor! If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I am flattened!
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(anthony @ Fri 4th June 2010, 10:14pm)
Is there any software available for online "home games" (no rake, everyone knows each other, winnings are settled via gentle(wo)man's honor)? What's the legal status of such games? Is there a federal law, or is it state by state? Which state law applies, all states where there are participants?
Years ago, before the whole USA vs. Rest-of-world led to a criminal prosecution of their CEO (if memory serves), PokerRoom.com used to let you invite together a table of player-friends for a tournament for cash, but there was still the dreaded rake.
I don't even want to open my mouth about the laws that surround any online gaming. I'm not qualified, they're too nebulous anyway, and I disagree with most of them.
As for Gallaraga, I got that all out of my system on Facebook the night it happened. In the aftermath, both Jim Joyce and Armando have conducted themselves in the most upstanding and respectful ways you could ever imagine, along with (for the most part) the fans in Detroit. And, yes, I remember in early 1983 when Milt Wilcox gave up a hit to the 27th batter.
Gallaraga will get his own Wikipedia biography, plus an article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armando_Galarraga%27s_near-perfect_game to this one game, even if this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tsutarja494 (who is obviously just a trolling account) tried to have it deleted.
Posted by: thekohser
QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 2nd May 2010, 3:26pm)
It looks like Jimbo Wales tried out the feature on http://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/13093255182. Now, when you learn where his location was, it might strike you as a bit funny -- indeed, it may even make you twitter. Jimbo doesn't like people giggling at him, so it's possible he will exercise his right to...
QUOTE
You may delete all location information from your past tweets.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
This may take up to 30 minutes.
Therefore, we have helped to keep free information open and free, posting Jimbo's self-disclosed location http://www.wikipediareview.com/File:Jimbo_in_Golden_Acres.jpg for posterity.
Sure enough, Jimbo has http://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/13093255182 of his post from "via web from Golden Acres, Dunedin" to "via web".