McWeenie Options

[It's the blimp, Frank]

For a good time, click here: McWeenie (T-C-L-K-R-D) Oh, crap, it's gone already.

edit: But this survives:

One must never lose sight of the fact that your banned user is a veritable criminal mastermind. He changes IP addresses with the greatest of ease; he laughs at geolocators; no technical security feature can stop him. Yet there is one thing he cannot change, one tell-tale, DNA-like feature which will inevitably trip him up: his POV. Try as he may to change his spots, the banned user's POV will always surface, sooner or later. Therefore, we must not shrink from the only viable solution. Ultimately, we must publish an Index of Prohibited POVs. This will of course take time to prepare. In the meantime, we should instute a new feature, similar to the Village Pump, to be called the Wikipedia Post Office Wall. We will produce of gallery of known POVs attributed to banned users. Restoring, or creating, material that reflects these POVs will be considered prima facie evidence of guilt. Admins who represent the forces of righteousness must be empowered to take all necessary measures against these marauders from the outside world, including the ability to execute "spot bans" whenever a telltale POV is detected. Can we do any less to protect the project? --McWeenie (talk) 07:32, 30 August 2009 (UTC) Account clearly set up to mock Will Beback. I've blocked it. Cool Hand Luke 15:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

This post has been edited by It's the blimp, Frank: Mon 31st August 2009, 3:49pm

[A Horse With No Name]

For a good time, click here: McWeenie (T-C-L-K-R-D) Oh, crap, it's gone already.

edit: But this survives:

One must never lose sight of the fact that your banned user is a veritable criminal mastermind. He changes IP addresses with the greatest of ease; he laughs at geolocators; no technical security feature can stop him. Yet there is one thing he cannot change, one tell-tale, DNA-like feature which will inevitably trip him up: his POV. Try as he may to change his spots, the banned user's POV will always surface, sooner or later. Therefore, we must not shrink from the only viable solution. Ultimately, we must publish an Index of Prohibited POVs. This will of course take time to prepare. In the meantime, we should instute a new feature, similar to the Village Pump, to be called the Wikipedia Post Office Wall. We will produce of gallery of known POVs attributed to banned users. Restoring, or creating, material that reflects these POVs will be considered prima facie evidence of guilt. Admins who represent the forces of righteousness must be empowered to take all necessary measures against these marauders from the outside world, including the ability to execute "spot bans" whenever a telltale POV is detected. Can we do any less to protect the project? --McWeenie (talk) 07:32, 30 August 2009 (UTC) Account clearly set up to mock Will Beback. I've blocked it. Cool Hand Luke 15:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget this gem from the Talk Page:

"Blocked

This account seems set up to ridicule User:Will Beback. I don't appreciate you throwing your crap into a debate where we're trying to make progress. I'm blocking you indefinitely. Cool Hand Luke 15:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)"

I don't know what is funnier: "throwing your crap" or "a debate where we're trying to make progress."

[thekohser]

For a good time, click here: McWeenie (T-C-L-K-R-D) Oh, crap, it's gone already.

edit: But this survives:

One must never lose sight of the fact that your banned user is a veritable criminal mastermind. He changes IP addresses with the greatest of ease; he laughs at geolocators; no technical security feature can stop him. Yet there is one thing he cannot change, one tell-tale, DNA-like feature which will inevitably trip him up: his POV. Try as he may to change his spots, the banned user's POV will always surface, sooner or later. Therefore, we must not shrink from the only viable solution. Ultimately, we must publish an Index of Prohibited POVs. This will of course take time to prepare. In the meantime, we should instute a new feature, similar to the Village Pump, to be called the Wikipedia Post Office Wall. We will produce of gallery of known POVs attributed to banned users. Restoring, or creating, material that reflects these POVs will be considered prima facie evidence of guilt. Admins who represent the forces of righteousness must be empowered to take all necessary measures against these marauders from the outside world, including the ability to execute "spot bans" whenever a telltale POV is detected. Can we do any less to protect the project? --McWeenie (talk) 07:32, 30 August 2009 (UTC) Account clearly set up to mock Will Beback. I've blocked it. Cool Hand Luke 15:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget this gem from the Talk Page:

"Blocked

This account seems set up to ridicule User:Will Beback. I don't appreciate you throwing your crap into a debate where we're trying to make progress. I'm blocking you indefinitely. Cool Hand Luke 15:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)"

I don't know what is funnier: "throwing your crap" or "a debate where we're trying to make progress."

Or, it is juicy irony that holding a POV that there ought to be an Index of Prohibited POVs would be, itself, prohibited.

[Lar]

Or, it is juicy irony that holding a POV that there ought to be an Index of Prohibited POVs would be, itself, prohibited.

I'm not sure if that's advanced Doublethink ... or Crimethink.

[Cla68]

McWeenie's comment wasn't very helpful, but it was funny.

[Shalom]

McWeenie's comment wasn't very helpful, but it was funny.

Yes.

[gomi]

McWeenie's comment wasn't very helpful, but it was funny.

I beg to differ. Funny is helpful in these situations. If the account was created to mock Will Beback, then it is because he needed to be mocked. Those who take the MMPORG called Wikipedia as seriously as he does need to be satirized. If only we had the equivalent of The Daily Show for Wikipedia!

[A Horse With No Name]

If only we had the equivalent of The Daily Show for Wikipedia!

I would prefer the equivalent of The Benny Hill Show for Wikipedia!

This post has been edited by A Horse With No Name: Tue 1st September 2009, 5:58pm

[CharlotteWebb]

This account seems set up to ridicule User:Will Beback.

Well no shit, though it did take a day and a half to reach this conclusion.

You see, everyone lower than arbcom felt it safer and more prudent to suffer a troll's presence than to be banned (or at least shit-listed) for explaining how this user-name was problematic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...e=User:McWeenie

[Herschelkrustofsky]

McWeenie's comment wasn't very helpful, but it was funny.

I beg to differ. Funny is helpful in these situations.

I'll drink to that. Satirists like Jonathan Swift have historically been an important force for social progress.

I would prefer the equivalent of The Benny Hill Show for Wikipedia!

I thought that was what WP:ANI was for.

[gomi]

This account seems set up to ridicule User:Will Beback.

Well no shit, though it did take a day and a half to reach this conclusion.

You see, everyone lower than arbcom felt it safer and more prudent to suffer a troll's presence than to be banned (or at least shit-listed) for explaining how this user-name was problematic.

Is there some reason why we're not supposed to say that Will Beback (T-C-L-K-R-D) is actually someone named Will McWhinney? Not to be confused with his late father of the same name, he seems to be leading an unremarkable life, except for being a dweeb on Wikipedia.

[carbuncle]

Or, it is juicy irony that holding a POV that there ought to be an Index of Prohibited POVs would be, itself, prohibited.

Similar to the "abuse filter" filter that stops one from mentioning the abuse filter?

[A Horse With No Name]

I would prefer the equivalent of The Benny Hill Show for Wikipedia!

I thought that was what WP:ANI was for.

No, WP:ANI is the Wikipedia equivalent of WWE -- except we have 50 million teenagers, Xeno and Tan instead of John Cena and friends.

[Cedric]

McWeenie's comment wasn't very helpful, but it was funny.

I beg to differ. Funny is helpful in these situations.

I'll drink to that. Satirists like Jonathan Swift have historically been an important force for social progress.

Indeed. That is precisely why satirists are so deeply despised and distrusted on Wikipedia. Despite pretensions to the contrary, Wikipedia isn't about social or educational progress; it's about protecting its ideological "purity".

[One]

This account seems set up to ridicule User:Will Beback.

Well no shit, though it did take a day and a half to reach this conclusion.

You see, everyone lower than arbcom felt it safer and more prudent to suffer a troll's presence than to be banned (or at least shit-listed) for explaining how this user-name was problematic.

Is there some reason why we're not supposed to say that Will Beback (T-C-L-K-R-D) is actually someone named Will McWhinney?

What was the reason for not saying your name again?

[Lar]

Is there some reason why we're not supposed to say that Will Beback (T-C-L-K-R-D) is actually someone named Will McWhinney?

What was the reason for not saying your name again?

Because Will Beback edits on Wikipedia and Gomi doesn't... er no, that's not it.

Because people give Gomi a hard time about things but no one ever gives Will Beback a hard time about things... er no, that's not it either.

Because of the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

[One]

Because of the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

That's the answer I would pick too.

[CharlotteWebb]

Is there some reason why we're not supposed to say that...

That probably depends on how your definition of "we". Topic for another thread perhaps.

[The Joy]

Is there some reason why we're not supposed to say that Will Beback (T-C-L-K-R-D) is actually someone named Will McWhinney?

What was the reason for not saying your name again?

Because Will Beback edits on Wikipedia and Gomi doesn't... er no, that's not it.

Because people give Gomi a hard time about things but no one ever gives Will Beback a hard time about things... er no, that's not it either.

Because of the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Gomi is just a moderator on a small forum floating in the vast Internet. Will McWhinney/Will Beback is editing the most popular online "encyclopedia" to advance his own idea of "truth" on people and has never apologized for it. Will Beback causes more harm to people by editing Wikipedia than Gomi posting here.

Also, One, you just helped "out" Will Beback by stating that User:Weenie was made to mock Beback. I find that ironic!

[One]

Also, One, you just helped "out" Will Beback by stating that User:Weenie was made to mock Beback. I find that ironic!

Not at all. His user and talk page was a rip off of Beback's (copying photos and FA stars). If he was named User:KimWipe, it was still clearly set up to mock Beback.

This post has been edited by One: Wed 2nd September 2009, 11:06pm