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> Philosophy: remind me not to be so stupid, Who needs experts
Peter Damian
post Tue 17th June 2008, 9:00pm
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Well the gargantuan battle seems to have ended satisfactorily

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=219968423

But was it worth it, given it has ended up at pretty much the same point as a year ago?
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post Tue 17th June 2008, 9:12pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 17th June 2008, 5:00pm) *

Well the gargantuan battle seems to have ended satisfactorily:

the diff that doesn't make a diff

But was it worth it, given it has ended up at pretty much the same point as a year ago?


… and flowers never bend …

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post Mon 30th June 2008, 6:37pm
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I just found the noblest thing I have ever seen on Wikipedia. Snowded, who by no means agrees with my views on the opening of the Philosophy article, has spotted my absence and write this:

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(I note by the way that Peter has been blocked indefinitely for reasons not connected with the page so we should at least try and respect his opinions in resolving this) --Snowded (talk) 21:17, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


Well done, sir. Sadly I shall not be back. Although I suspect there is just a touch of self-interest there as he is now seeing what it is like to take care of that article. Not one but two nutcases have descended on the article. One is arguing that the Greek philosophers were really African.

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In reality, it is proven to be known that Egyptian philosophy was the first philosophy in existence. Several reputable sources(one being a book by the name of Stolen Legacy by George G.M. James) have clearly stated that Greek philosophy came from Egyptian philosophy. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=221017225


The other that it is really Indo-Iranian or whatever.

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However, the subject had existed before amongst the Indo-Iranians by the name of Mazad-Yasna, meaning worship of wisdom. <Ref>Oxford dictionary of philosophy, page409.


This latter one constantly inserts edits without any attempt at discussion. Someone reverts here

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=222606175

with the comment "Rv. Will an admin to something here???". Look: there are no admins here. Remember the bit near the end of Apocalypse now where they reach the bridge and Charlie is everywhere, and they ask where is the commanding officer. The dude replies 'There ain't no fuckin' CO'
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post Mon 30th June 2008, 6:44pm
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10 Don't Bee So Stupid.
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post Mon 30th June 2008, 6:55pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Mon 30th June 2008, 7:37pm) *

I just found the noblest thing I have ever seen on Wikipedia. Snowded, who by no means agrees with my views on the opening of the Philosophy article, has spotted my absence and write this:

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(I note by the way that Peter has been blocked indefinitely for reasons not connected with the page so we should at least try and respect his opinions in resolving this) --Snowded (talk) 21:17, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


Well done, sir. Sadly I shall not be back. Although I suspect there is just a touch of self-interest there as he is now seeing what it is like to take care of that article. Not one but two nutcases have descended on the article. One is arguing that the Greek philosophers were really African.

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In reality, it is proven to be known that Egyptian philosophy was the first philosophy in existence. Several reputable sources(one being a book by the name of Stolen Legacy by George G.M. James) have clearly stated that Greek philosophy came from Egyptian philosophy. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=221017225


The other that it is really Indo-Iranian or whatever.

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However, the subject had existed before amongst the Indo-Iranians by the name of Mazad-Yasna, meaning worship of wisdom. <Ref>Oxford dictionary of philosophy, page409.


This latter one constantly inserts edits without any attempt at discussion. Someone reverts here

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=222606175

with the comment "Rv. Will an admin to something here???". Look: there are no admins here. Remember the bit near the end of Apocalypse now where they reach the bridge and Charlie is everywhere, and they ask where is the commanding officer. The dude replies 'There ain't no fuckin' CO'



We got an admin Peter and had him banned - it works out in the end as I hope it will for you - I see lots of opposition to your banning form some senior admins and will weigh in with support for your reinstatement if and when it would make a difference.
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post Mon 30th June 2008, 6:57pm
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QUOTE(snowded @ Mon 30th June 2008, 7:55pm) *

We got an admin Peter and had him banned - it works out in the end as I hope it will for you - I see lots of opposition to your banning form some senior admins and will weigh in with support for your reinstatement if and when it would make a difference.


Well done and thanks for your kind support. Forgive me for my earlier rudeness.

But as you see from my comments elsewhere here, I am not sanguine about the prospects for any of this. Good luck my friend.
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post Mon 30th June 2008, 7:42pm
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The lead is a bunch of amateur worded gobbledygook. Someone (cartagraph?) just tried to apply the KISS principle, which seemed very good in comparison to what was there... well, is still there now because they were reverted. wacko.gif

Lacking NPOV?


(I can't write, but I can critique. lol)

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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 11:24pm) *


And why not bring some doody into this... we already have another thread about pissing!
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post Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:35pm
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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Fri 6th June 2008, 6:26pm) *

One subtheme in the Dialogue On Knowledge (DOK) that's been going on for the last umpteen years or so has been this very question about the proper relationship between Democracy and Inquiry. I could put together a reading list if anyone wants to cache up, but needles to say the level of discussion has progressed rather far beyond the kinds of oeuvre-simple-fixations that we currently see in Wikiputia and its Wikiparishes.


Hiya John,

Yes I'd appreciate that for one.

I've been trying to explain to various sets of undergraduates this time of year the phenomenon of Wikipedia in the context of social construction of knowledge, and how so few people have managed to formulate a comprehensive response to it in that context (sociologists for example). So yes- Any DOK references you particularly like - I'll be particularly interested to see!
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QUOTE(Angela Kennedy @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 5:35pm) *

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Fri 6th June 2008, 6:26pm) *

One subtheme in the Dialogue On Knowledge (DOK) that's been going on for the last umpteen years or so has been this very question about the proper relationship between Democracy and Inquiry. I could put together a reading list if anyone wants to cache up, but needles to say the level of discussion has progressed rather far beyond the kinds of oeuvre-simple-fixations that we currently see in Wikiputia and its Wikiparishes.


Yes I'd appreciate that for one.

I've been trying to explain to various sets of undergraduates this time of year the phenomenon of Wikipedia in the context of social construction of knowledge, and how so few people have managed to formulate a comprehensive response to it in that context (sociologists for example). So yes — Any DOK references you particularly like — I'll be particularly interested to see!


The all-time must-read in this connection is John Dewey's Quest for Certainty.

I had been collecting some readings along these lines here.

There are a number of related papers here.

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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 5th June 2008, 2:02am) *

Someone please tell me, and keep reminding me, that anyone who gets involved with this project is fundamentally insane. Thank You.

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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Sat 30th May 2009, 3:42pm) *


Periodic Reminder


QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Thu 5th June 2008, 2:02am) *

Someone please tell me, and keep reminding me, that anyone who gets involved with this project is fundamentally insane. Thank You.




I forgot.
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Everyone hopes that after four years you have managed to remember much of what you forgot.

And four years from now, who knows what the whole Jimbocracy will look like?

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