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Selina
post Sat 18th February 2012, 5:29pm
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QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Sat 18th February 2012, 4:43pm) *
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Just for future reference, the animation was kept, by the editor who opined just a little while ago on Jimbo's talk page:
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When I masturbate in public, I don't really feel any different than when I do it in private; can you possibly tell us why when you masturbate in public, it hurts? [[User:Russavia|Y u no be Russavia]] <sup>[[User talk:Russavia|ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)]]</sup> 19:42, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Sounds like content management of this charitable educational project is in safe hands, then.

god the culture really is toxic... and they wonder why people leave???
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post Sat 18th February 2012, 5:39pm
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It is worthwhile noting the close of that deletion discussion:
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Kept: On Commons, we concern ourselves with two main issues. Firstly, and most importantly, only freely-licenced materials can be hosted here. Secondly, and once the freely-licenced aspect is met, materials must be within our scope; in particular the provision of educational media.

Reviewing the history of the file, prior to this DR, I see that the file has seen use on both English Wikipedia (en:Donkey punch) since 21 October 2010[7], and Spanish Wikipedia (es:Donkey punch) since 16 February 2011[8]. Whether other WMF projects use this image is not decided at Commons, but on local projects. Commons should not be used as a tool to skirt local project discussions on usability of media on those projects.

Having said that, there are potential copyright issues with this file, which will not be resolved by way of this DR. There is another DR underway at present, which will determine whether the underlying work on this particular file is kept or deleted. If deleted, this image as a derivative of that work, will also be deleted. If kept, as I noted to an editor here, there are alleged Encyclopedia Dramatica IRC logs which indicate that the uploader is not the "copyright" owner of this image. (Quote: [2010-10-21 05:43:18] <ptime> I'll list it as my own work). As the uploader is not an established member of the community, the image has been marked with {{No permission}}, which is going to require OTRS processing. As mentioned to the editor, if any permission is received, it is going to be a stringent OTRS verification, given the source. russavia (talk) 19:35, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Russavia is quite clearly saying that this image will be deleted soon, because they know the conditions that they set cannot be met (astute observers will note that these conditions are completely bogus and not applied to other images on Commons). Since they think they have found a way to delete the image, they don't have to agree with people who want the images deleted, which would be a problem for Russavia since they probably think this is another WR plot. Doubleplusgood.
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post Sat 18th February 2012, 9:50pm
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QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Sat 18th February 2012, 4:43pm) *

Just for future reference, the animation was kept, by the editor who opined just a little while ago on Jimbo's talk page:
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When I masturbate in public, I don't really feel any different than when I do it in private; can you possibly tell us why when you masturbate in public, it hurts? [[User:Russavia|Y u no be Russavia]] <sup>[[User talk:Russavia|ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)]]</sup> 19:42, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Sounds like content management of this charitable educational project is in safe hands, then.


Sod that, doesn't the dipshit know that fucking in public is far more fun?
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post Sat 18th February 2012, 10:00pm
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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Sat 18th February 2012, 9:50pm) *

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When I masturbate in public, I don't really feel any different than when I do it in private; can you possibly tell us why when you masturbate in public, it hurts? [[User:Russavia|Y u no be Russavia]] <sup>[[User talk:Russavia|ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)]]</sup> 19:42, 27 January 2012 (


Sod that, doesn't the dipshit know that fucking in public is far more fun?


It is my sad duty to inform you that Russavia has been killed but at least he died doing that which he most loved to do.

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post Wed 22nd February 2012, 12:46am
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QUOTE(lilburne @ Sat 18th February 2012, 10:00pm) *

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When I masturbate in public, I don't really feel any different than when I do it in private; can you possibly tell us why when you masturbate in public, it hurts? [[User:Russavia|Y u no be Russavia]] <sup>[[User talk:Russavia|ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)]]</sup> 19:42, 27 January 2012 (


Sod that, doesn't the dipshit know that fucking in public is far more fun?


It is my sad duty to inform you that Russavia has been killed but at least he died doing that which he most loved to do.

It seems he still managed "begrudgingly" to delete the file, and the file it was derived from.
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post Wed 22nd February 2012, 7:37am
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QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Wed 22nd February 2012, 12:46am) *

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When I masturbate in public, I don't really feel any different than when I do it in private; can you possibly tell us why when you masturbate in public, it hurts? [[User:Russavia|Y u no be Russavia]] <sup>[[User talk:Russavia|ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)]]</sup> 19:42, 27 January 2012 (


Sod that, doesn't the dipshit know that fucking in public is far more fun?


It is my sad duty to inform you that Russavia has been killed but at least he died doing that which he most loved to do.

It seems he still managed "begrudgingly" to delete the file, and the file it was derived from.


Bleedin' POLTERGEIST.
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post Mon 19th March 2012, 12:38pm
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And...it's back! At least a copy of it in slightly smaller form. I wonder if any Commons admins still read WR?
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post Mon 19th March 2012, 1:16pm
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 19th March 2012, 12:38pm) *

And...it's back! At least a copy of it in slightly smaller form. I wonder if any Commons admins still read WR?

Of course they do. They need to know when we will next campaign against valued editors convicted for distributing child pornographers and individuals who claim to parliament that they help BLP subjects sort out problems whilst in reality contributing to those problems themselves.
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post Mon 19th March 2012, 7:03pm
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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Thu 16th February 2012, 1:18pm) *

You would have thought someone would have done this by now...

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Or indeed, Jimbo's face image super-imposed on the woman... or would that be 'beyond the pale'?
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post Mon 19th March 2012, 7:08pm
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QUOTE(Angela Kennedy @ Mon 19th March 2012, 2:03pm) *
Or indeed, Jimbo's face image super-imposed on the woman... or would that be 'beyond the pale'?

It should be superimposed on both figures, actually.

However, finding a photo for the female figure for which Jimbo has the right facial expression might be tricky... He's always been good at avoiding the grimace-look when cameras are present.

Anyway...

I don't think we should kid ourselves about what's going on here. Wikipedia is teaching people how to abuse, torture and rape women, and they're not even trying to hide it anymore. Without the image, you could almost argue that the article was comical; with the image, it crosses the line. They never really had any shame to begin with, but now they're actively trying to impose an evil and malicious set of anti-values on society, consequences be damned.

Sorry, but that's just how I feel about this.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 19th March 2012, 7:08pm) *

They never really had any shame to begin with, but now they're actively trying to impose an evil and malicious set of anti-values on society, consequences be damned.

Wikipedia Dramatica.
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QUOTE(Angela Kennedy @ Mon 19th March 2012, 2:03pm) *
Or indeed, Jimbo's face image super-imposed on the woman... or would that be 'beyond the pale'?

No, you need Sue Gardner's face on the woman, and then have a debate about whether it's beyond the pale. It might actually be a good metaphor, tbh.

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QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 19th March 2012, 7:08pm) *

QUOTE(Angela Kennedy @ Mon 19th March 2012, 2:03pm) *
Or indeed, Jimbo's face image super-imposed on the woman... or would that be 'beyond the pale'?

It should be superimposed on both figures, actually.

However, finding a photo for the female figure for which Jimbo has the right facial expression might be tricky... He's always been good at avoiding the grimace-look when cameras are present.

Anyway...

I don't think we should kid ourselves about what's going on here. Wikipedia is teaching people how to abuse, torture and rape women, and they're not even trying to hide it anymore. Without the image, you could almost argue that the article was comical; with the image, it crosses the line. They never really had any shame to begin with, but now they're actively trying to impose an evil and malicious set of anti-values on society, consequences be damned.

Sorry, but that's just how I feel about this.


Hey Somey, don't apologise. I'm with you on this. I guess I was looking to see how far pleas of 'no censorship' would go if the god-king himself was being donkey-punched in animation parody: Cos I don't know if cunningly linguistic is misogynist, trolling, delightfully ironic, or pushing a pro-wikipedia agenda. Could be any of them.


QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Mon 19th March 2012, 8:55pm) *

QUOTE(Angela Kennedy @ Mon 19th March 2012, 2:03pm) *
Or indeed, Jimbo's face image super-imposed on the woman... or would that be 'beyond the pale'?

No, you need Sue Gardner's face on the woman, and then have a debate about whether it's beyond the pale. It might actually be a good metaphor, tbh.

"Calling all vandals..." laugh.gif


Why Sue Gardner?
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QUOTE(Angela Kennedy @ Mon 19th March 2012, 10:59pm) *
delightfully ironic


There ya go
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QUOTE(Proabivouac @ Mon 19th March 2012, 2:58pm) *
Wikipedia Dramatica.

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(I mean that figuratively, of course.)
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All odd. Not being following this as I've not been involved with Wikipedia in an editing sense for years (or year and months, can't remember) and forgot my password for my account on this site. And the email address.

But enough woe is me.

One issue I have is an apparent "this doesn't actually happen" like donkey punch could, theoretically, become so well-known through Wikipedia and its related Google juice to then inspire enough real-world comment to get an article.

Not really the situation with donkey punch as the expression pre-dated Wikipedia and there was a motion picture made with the same title, but it does raise the issue of Wikipedia fulfilling its own prophecies by giving marginal/worthless/etc articles the promotion they need to then be mainstream and, lo and behold, worthy of a Wikipedia article.
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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Mon 19th March 2012, 11:21pm) *

QUOTE(Angela Kennedy @ Mon 19th March 2012, 10:59pm) *
delightfully ironic


There ya go


I do wonder what would be people's responses if this cartoon was representing gay sex and a MAN was being punched in the head by another man - you know - to enhance the sexual experience 'n all.

And by people, I mean those who are so enamoured with producing a Donkey Punch article and their little animation.
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QUOTE(Angela Kennedy @ Tue 20th March 2012, 2:12am) *
I do wonder what would be people's responses if this cartoon was representing gay sex and a MAN was being punched in the head by another man - you know - to enhance the sexual experience 'n all.

Probably a moot question - I'm pretty sure that if it were a strictly gay thing, they'd have live-action video.
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Why Sue Gardner?

Because she's head of the WMF...
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QUOTE(Angela Kennedy @ Mon 19th March 2012, 7:03pm) *

Or indeed, Jimbo's face image super-imposed on the woman... or would that be 'beyond the pale'?

The Snowballing (sexual practice) (T-H-L-K-D) article used to have an image of two women cum-swapping, even though the text described an act between a man and a woman. When the image was changed, so the man was the receiver, complaints went up, even though it now at least matched the text.

Go figure.

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