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Posted by: victim of censorship

=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Goethean&diff=prev&oldid=391310415=
AKA...Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D)
As you know where I live, I know were you live as well, so I have committed to confined my augments with you to this cesspool and Wikpeidia Review so as not to have it spill out in the street and I hope you do the same.

Make no mistake, I have ABSOLUTELY no respect for your beliefs and methods of intellectual thuggery, bullying... You're a little man, pathetic and cowardly - intellectual, spiritual, and morally corrupt...your shameful ways of gaming Wikirulez, and other equally low games, in order to foist your rotten and flawed point of view, is reflective of your ethics I have seen on wikipeidia for years now. What is sad is no one calls you to task, with out getting wacked by your admin friends.

Now if you like to hide here, fine, but I make you a challenge, assuming you are brave enough and so sure of your beliefs, to crawl out from this dark and dank hiding place and on to Wikireview (a venue where you can't call an admin with tools, where you have to stand toe to toe on the merit of your augments and defend your sorry self, to the charges I make there, that your new age beliefs are garbage, and Ramakrishna's is just power mad homo erotic addict and your a sorry little thuggish boor.

Again, if you should MAN UP instead of being a coward, then I await your presence at Wikipedia Review so you can tell me and the, world at large, why your so right and the world is so wrong. MAN UP or hid like the weak bully boy you are.???

Any rate I be waiting for you there.

JoE

Addendum:
Looks like Goathed is crying to his little owl face turkey.. ...Tiptoety (T-C-L-K-R-D) ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tiptoety&diff=prev&oldid=391314076

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:76.202.241.182&diff=prev&oldid=391319049

Posted by: Alison

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Sun 17th October 2010, 2:57pm) *

Now if you like to hide here, fine, but I make you a challenge, assuming you are brave enough and so sure of your beliefs, to crawl out from this dark and dank hiding place and on to Wikireview (a venue where you can't call an admin with tools, where you have to stand toe to toe on the merit of your augments and defend your sorry self, to the charges I make there, that your new age beliefs are garbage, and Ramakrishna's is just power mad homo erotic addict and your a sorry little thuggish boor.

Again, if you should MAN UP instead of being a coward, then I await your presence at Wikipedia Review so you can tell me and the, world at large, why your so right and the world is so wrong. MAN UP or hid like the weak bully boy you are.???

Any rate I be waiting for you there.

JoE

I think it would be interesting and more than a little lulzy, if Goethean showed up here and you guys got talking. However I don't think either of you would get much resolved at the end of the day & I can see you getting more and more irate while Goethean BAWWWed to the mods to have you banned from WR (and failing laugh.gif ) Then he'd go off saying he challenged you on your own turf or whatev, while you would be saying that he ran off like a snivelling coward.

Then the next day, it would be back to business on WP for both of you bored.gif

Posted by: Jon Awbrey

Reader Advisory : Plot Spoiler Ahead —

QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 17th October 2010, 8:23pm) *

I think it would be interesting and more than a little lulzy, if Goethean showed up here and you guys got talking. However I don't think either of you would get much resolved at the end of the day & I can see you getting more and more irate while Goethean BAWWWed to the mods to have you banned from WR (and failing laugh.gif ) Then he'd go off saying he challenged you on your own turf or whatev, while you would be saying that he ran off like a snivelling coward.

Then the next day, it would be back to business on WP for both of you bored.gif



Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 17th October 2010, 7:23pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Sun 17th October 2010, 2:57pm) *

Now if you like to hide here, fine, but I make you a challenge, assuming you are brave enough and so sure of your beliefs, to crawl out from this dark and dank hiding place and on to Wikireview (a venue where you can't call an admin with tools, where you have to stand toe to toe on the merit of your augments and defend your sorry self, to the charges I make there, that your new age beliefs are garbage, and Ramakrishna's is just power mad homo erotic addict and your a sorry little thuggish boor.

Again, if you should MAN UP instead of being a coward, then I await your presence at Wikipedia Review so you can tell me and the, world at large, why your so right and the world is so wrong. MAN UP or hid like the weak bully boy you are.???

Any rate I be waiting for you there.

JoE

I think it would be interesting and more than a little lulzy, if Goethean showed up here and you guys got talking. However I don't think either of you would get much resolved at the end of the day & I can see you getting more and more irate while Goethean BAWWWed to the mods to have you banned from WR (and failing laugh.gif ) Then he'd go off saying he challenged you on your own turf or whatev, while you would be saying that he ran off like a snivelling coward.

Then the next day, it would be back to business on WP for both of you bored.gif


This little man is a coward. plain and simple.

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Sun 17th October 2010, 5:33pm) *
Reader Advisory : Plot Spoiler Ahead —

If this is a "plot", somebody please shoot the author.
Because his writing sucks.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Sun 17th October 2010, 5:57pm) *

=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Goethean&diff=prev&oldid=391310415=
AKA...Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D)
As you know where I live, I know were you live as well, so I have committed to confined my augments with you to this cesspool and Wikpeidia Review so as not to have it spill out in the street and I hope you do the same.

Make no mistake, I have ABSOLUTELY no respect for your beliefs and methods of intellectual thuggery, bullying... You're a little man, pathetic and cowardly - intellectual, spiritual, and morally corrupt...your shameful ways of gaming Wikirulez, and other equally low games, in order to foist your rotten and flawed point of view, is reflective of your ethics I have seen on wikipeidia for years now. What is sad is no one calls you to task, with out getting wacked by your admin friends.

Now if you like to hide here, fine, but I make you a challenge, assuming you are brave enough and so sure of your beliefs, to crawl out from this dark and dank hiding place and on to Wikireview (a venue where you can't call an admin with tools, where you have to stand toe to toe on the merit of your augments and defend your sorry self, to the charges I make there, that your new age beliefs are garbage, and Ramakrishna's is just power mad homo erotic addict and your a sorry little thuggish boor.

Again, if you should MAN UP instead of being a coward, then I await your presence at Wikipedia Review so you can tell me and the, world at large, why your so right and the world is so wrong. MAN UP or hid like the weak bully boy you are.???

Any rate I be waiting for you there.

JoE

Addendum:
Looks like Goathed is crying to his little owl face turkey.. ...Tiptoety (T-C-L-K-R-D) ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tiptoety&diff=prev&oldid=391314076

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:76.202.241.182&diff=prev&oldid=391319049


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Posted by: Somey

Hmm. Apparently what happened this time was, AnonIP 67.250.120.197 tried to add some "external links" to the article on Deborah Burlingame (T-H-L-K-D), who apparently is some sort of conservative 9/11 victims' advocate. Goethean reverted that, claiming that 67.250.120.197 was a "Joehazelton sock" and altering the relevant "SPI" page to reflect this claim. 67.250.120.197 may or may not be Mr. Victim (I'd guess not, since he's never posted here on WR from 67-anything), but in any event, Goathead then went on to accuse Spaceysrockets (T-C-L-K-R-D) of being "Joehazelton" as well, when Spaceysrockets voted to delete one of Goathead's pet articles on one of his new-age pals, Dawn Covington (T-H-L-K-D), and also tried to re-insert some criticism of another one of Goathead's pals, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=George_Berkeley&diff=prev&oldid=390976457. Both 67.250.120.197 and Spaceysrockets were blocked, apparently at Goathead's behest.

My guess is that Spaceysrockets probably was Mr. Victim, who in turn was alerted to the 67.250.120.197 situation by the change to the SPI page. But he did nothing with the account that was actually "blockworthy" - I understand that they block Mr. Victim's known IP addresses pretty much reflexively, but I don't see anything that would even have warranted a CheckUser on that account. So, my conclusion is that both blocks were abusive.

Why don't they just make Goathead an admin/bureaucrat/checkuser/steward, if they're just going to do whatever he wants them to? It would save time... it looks like they don't even bother to check these things, they just do whatever he says. Meanwhile, he continues to spam WP with BS about these marginal new-age guru-types whom nobody has ever heard of (and, I suspect, deservedly so).

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Sun 17th October 2010, 5:57pm) *

Again, if you should MAN UP instead of being a coward, then I await your presence at Wikipedia Review so you can tell me and the, world at large, why your so right and the world is so wrong. MAN UP or hid like the weak bully boy you are.???


Voc is really Sharron Angle? blink.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 18th October 2010, 11:51am) *

Hmm. Apparently what happened this time was, AnonIP 67.250.120.197 tried to add some "external links" to the article on Deborah Burlingame (T-H-L-K-D), who apparently is some sort of conservative 9/11 victims' advocate. Goethean reverted that, claiming that 67.250.120.197 was a "Joehazelton sock" and altering the relevant "SPI" page to reflect this claim. 67.250.120.197 may or may not be Mr. Victim (I'd guess not, since he's never posted here on WR from 67-anything), but in any event, Goathead then went on to accuse Spaceysrockets (T-C-L-K-R-D) of being "Joehazelton" as well, when Spaceysrockets voted to delete one of Goathead's pet articles on one of his new-age pals, Dawn Covington (T-H-L-K-D), and also tried to re-insert some criticism of another one of Goathead's pals, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=George_Berkeley&diff=prev&oldid=390976457. Both 67.250.120.197 and Spaceysrockets were blocked, apparently at Goathead's behest.

My guess is that Spaceysrockets probably was Mr. Victim, who in turn was alerted to the 67.250.120.197 situation by the change to the SPI page. But he did nothing with the account that was actually "blockworthy" - I understand that they block Mr. Victim's known IP addresses pretty much reflexively, but I don't see anything that would even have warranted a CheckUser on that account. So, my conclusion is that both blocks were abusive.

Why don't they just make Goathead an admin/bureaucrat/checkuser/steward, if they're just going to do whatever he wants them to? It would save time... it looks like they don't even bother to check these things, they just do whatever he says. Meanwhile, he continues to spam WP with BS about these marginal new-age guru-types whom nobody has ever heard of (and, I suspect, deservedly so).


I bet Goathead loves to suck the dicks of some of the admins, like MuZemike (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

This is why I spit on Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, and Goathed and the rest of the despicable jagoffs that admin Wikipedia .... god help them if their paths ever cross mine in real life.

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:39pm) *


This is why I spit on Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, and Goathed and the rest of the despicable jagoffs that admin Wikipedia .... god help them if their paths ever cross mine in real life.


Why? What would you do to them? ermm.gif

Posted by: Alison

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 18th October 2010, 6:21pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:39pm) *


This is why I spit on Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, and Goathed and the rest of the despicable jagoffs that admin Wikipedia .... god help them if their paths ever cross mine in real life.

Why? What would you do to them? ermm.gif

Give 'em a big ol' wedgie, I suspect tongue.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:23pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 18th October 2010, 6:21pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:39pm) *


This is why I spit on Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, and Goathed and the rest of the despicable jagoffs that admin Wikipedia .... god help them if their paths ever cross mine in real life.

Why? What would you do to them? ermm.gif

Give 'em a big ol' wedgie, I suspect tongue.gif


TO BAD you ENABLE GOETHEAN's abuse... so I have no respect.

Posted by: Alison

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 6:28pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:23pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 18th October 2010, 6:21pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:39pm) *


This is why I spit on Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, and Goathed and the rest of the despicable jagoffs that admin Wikipedia .... god help them if their paths ever cross mine in real life.

Why? What would you do to them? ermm.gif

Give 'em a big ol' wedgie, I suspect tongue.gif


TO BAD you ENABLE GOETHEAN's abuse... so I have no respect.

TOO BAD you Use RanDoM cAPs ... .. so I have no reshpekt.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 18th October 2010, 6:23pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 18th October 2010, 6:21pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:39pm) *


This is why I spit on Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, and Goathed and the rest of the despicable jagoffs that admin Wikipedia .... god help them if their paths ever cross mine in real life.

Why? What would you do to them? ermm.gif

Give 'em a big ol' wedgie, I suspect tongue.gif

Image

I wonder if this will this make it through Ottava's child-porn filter? ermm.gif

Posted by: TungstenCarbide

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 19th October 2010, 12:39am) *
I bet Goathead loves to suck the dicks of some of the admins, like MuZemike (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

I've never made more than a handful of edits per month, most of them unproblematic, yet MuZemike just blocked tens of thousands of IP addresses because of littl'ol me. I win. ImageImageImageImageImageImage

I'm usually too lazy to proxy in, but I just might spend the 4 minutes it takes to go there and gloat. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Mon 18th October 2010, 6:43pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 19th October 2010, 12:39am) *
I bet Goathead loves to suck the dicks of some of the admins, like MuZemike (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

I've never made more than a handful of edits per month, most of them unproblematic, yet MuZemike just blocked tens of thousands of IP addresses because of littl'ol me. I win. ImageImageImageImageImageImage

I'm usually too lazy to proxy in, but I just might spend the 4 minutes it takes to go there and gloat. biggrin.gif


Speaking of wedgies, what has Durova's iron panties in a vice-grip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Joeperez69/Archive#Evidence_submitted_by_Durova. If she worked that hard finding WMF and Wales COI issues, she'd be banniated to Kohs Hell by now.

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 7:39pm) *
I bet Goathead loves to suck the dicks of some of the admins, like MuZemike (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

Well, some people will provide oral sex to just about anybody. But without more details about his personal life, we can't really say if he actually likes it or not...

This doesn't answer the question at hand, though, which is whether or not you (i.e., Mr. Victim) were the person behind the AnonIP 67.250.120.197 and/or User:Spaceysrockets. Also, we need a special term to describe these Goethean vs. Mr. Victim threads... something like "another Joeblock" or, if you like allusions to German philosophy, "another German philosophers suck thread."

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 18th October 2010, 7:34pm) *

This doesn't answer the question at hand, though, which is whether or not you (i.e., Mr. Victim) were the person behind the AnonIP 67.250.120.197 and/or User:Spaceysrockets. Also, we need a special term to describe these Goethean vs. Mr. Victim threads... something like "another Joeblock" or, if you like allusions to German philosophy, "another German philosophers suck thread."

Oh nooos, not the Randroid shit again! noooo.gif

HK, you know that when LaRouche dies and goes to Hell, they're going to put him in a double-cell with Ms. Rand, replacing Kant. Due to the special properties of Hell, the implied matter-antimatter reaction will be forever suppressed.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 18th October 2010, 9:34pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 7:39pm) *
I bet Goathead loves to suck the dicks of some of the admins, like MuZemike (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

Well, some people will provide oral sex to just about anybody. But without more details about his personal life, we can't really say if he actually likes it or not...

This doesn't answer the question at hand, though, which is whether or not you (i.e., Mr. Victim) were the person behind the AnonIP 67.250.120.197 and/or User:Spaceysrockets. Also, we need a special term to describe these Goethean vs. Mr. Victim threads... something like "another Joeblock" or, if you like allusions to German philosophy, "another German philosophers suck thread."


To answer your question about 67.250.120.197, that answer is no, that was not me.

Now I have a question for Alison?...Why is Goethean allowed to to run like a wild feral animal on Wikipedia and be the abusive jackass he is???



QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:31pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 6:28pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:23pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 18th October 2010, 6:21pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:39pm) *


This is why I spit on Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, and Goathed and the rest of the despicable jagoffs that admin Wikipedia .... god help them if their paths ever cross mine in real life.

Why? What would you do to them? ermm.gif

Give 'em a big ol' wedgie, I suspect tongue.gif


TO BAD you ENABLE GOETHEAN's abuse... so I have no respect.

TOO BAD you Use RanDoM cAPs ... .. so I have no reshpekt.


To bad you don't ban Goethean

Posted by: Alison

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:36pm) *

Now I have a question for Alison?...Why is Goethean allowed to to run like a wild feral animal on Wikipedia and be the abusive jackass he is???

[...]

To bad you don't ban Goethean

For what? Being a dick? dry.gif There wouldn't be many editors left if bannination was being handed out for that. What has he specifically done that requires admin action? Seriously - I've not really followed the whole Goethean thing (largely because of your own attitude, to be honest, and the fact that I'm trying to disconnect from WP) - at least point me to some *genuine* misdeeds here. Yes, he constantly cries to admins to have your many, many socks banned - and some that clearly aren't yours - I've stepped in before over other innocent editors, as well you know. Oh, and he's got some New Age bee in his bonnet rolleyes.gif

But other than that, and your personalized campaign against him - what exactly is there?? Help me out here.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 18th October 2010, 10:44pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 8:36pm) *

Now I have a question for Alison?...Why is Goethean allowed to to run like a wild feral animal on Wikipedia and be the abusive jackass he is???

[...]

To bad you don't ban Goethean

For what? Being a dick? dry.gif There wouldn't be many editors left if bannination was being handed out for that. What has he specifically done that requires admin action? Seriously - I've not really followed the whole Goethean thing (largely because of your own attitude, to be honest, and the fact that I'm trying to disconnect from WP) - at least point me to some *genuine* misdeeds here. Yes, he constantly cries to admins to have your many, many socks banned - and some that clearly aren't yours - I've stepped in before over other innocent editors, as well you know. Oh, and he's got some New Age bee in his bonnet rolleyes.gif

But other than that, and your personalized campaign against him - what exactly is there?? Help me out here.


WP:CIVIL... WP:AGF.... WP:HARSSMENT...and simple fair play. The simple fact is there is no governance or fair review on Wikipedia??? Just street gangs, warlords and jagoffs (like those who enable GOATHED) and who have no fear of due to the admins that protect the jagoffs like Goathed. I have some history (which was removed) and see how the much respect there was...

http://www.bazpedia.com/en/j/o/e/User_talk~Joehazelton_be25.html Just a little note all of this was removed from Wikipedia by the lovely jackass admins in violation of GNU Free Documentation License to hide the total abuse of me by the ackass admins. In my my attempt to see the my friend Bio was treated fairly, I was treated like subhuman and in the end was abused by a wild eyed partisan democrat in total violation of WP:COI Rob Gamaliel, and his friend Goethean.

I spit on those enablers who help make Wikipedia evil. DAM right it's personal. WIKIPEDIA IS A CESSPOOL OF EVIL and those who enable it are the scum of the earth. I will live a 100 years to see wikipedia diminished to a JOKE and repudiated for the crater of sewerage it is.

Posted by: Alison

Ok, so I got the gratuitous insult, etc. I was expecting that. But all I'm seeing here is some dispute back in - what - 2006? And, in fairness, it looks like you got picked on, too unhappy.gif I wasn't even an admin back in those days.

Anyways - this is now. What exactly can I do here? You've not given me much reason to even chide the guy, let alone banhammer him! confused.gif Point out where he's repeatedly breaking the rules, show me the stuff & I'll try to deal with it. From what I can see, he's got some sort of hair-trigger JoeHazelton thing going on, where he sees your socks just about *everywhere* and uses that as a justification to shut down other editors. Now *that* is not cool. I can watch our for and possibly deal with that sort of thing. But what else?

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 18th October 2010, 11:36pm) *

Now I have a question for Alison?...Why is Goethean allowed to to run like a wild feral animal on Wikipedia and be the abusive jackass he is???


C'mon, Joe...there are better questions to ask Alison. For instance:

* What's a nice girl like you doing in a place like this?
* If I told you that you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?
* Where have you been all of my life?

Turn off the Wiki-hate, Joe, and turn on the Wiki-Love. evilgrin.gif

Posted by: Cock-up-over-conspiracy

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 19th October 2010, 3:44am) *
... and the fact that I'm trying to disconnect from WP) - at least point me to some *genuine* misdeeds here.

We are all bidding on Ebay for your admin account ...

I have MuZemike for the first Wikpedian admin to commit suicide online in real time as he finally looks up from his PC, accepts how empty his bedroom and life is, and how futile it all is fighting the tide of scum as it rolls up against Jimbo's massively bloated organ.

Ja, be nice to Alison. She cannot fix everything but she has fixed more than a few.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 19th October 2010, 2:03am) *

Ok, so I got the gratuitous insult, etc. I was expecting that. But all I'm seeing here is some dispute back in - what - 2006? And, in fairness, it looks like you got picked on, too unhappy.gif I wasn't even an admin back in those days.

Anyways - this is now. What exactly can I do here? You've not given me much reason to even chide the guy, let alone banhammer him! confused.gif Point out where he's repeatedly breaking the rules, show me the stuff & I'll try to deal with it. From what I can see, he's got some sort of hair-trigger JoeHazelton thing going on, where he sees your socks just about *everywhere* and uses that as a justification to shut down other editors. Now *that* is not cool. I can watch our for and possibly deal with that sort of thing. But what else?



This guy is a real bad actor, and giving him access to the Google juice, which wikipedia has is like giving an addict truck full of coke.

See one small example... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Vedvyasa&diff=prev&oldid=350641969 This kind of garbage alone is enough to ban him. lets include has constant bullying and edit warring as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Goethean/2009#Warnings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Goethean/2009#Civility
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Goethean/2009#Warnings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Goethean/Archive_4#Civility_Please
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Goethean/Archive_4#Stop_the_personal_attacks

and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Goethean/2005#I_do_not_make_edits_in_bad_faith ....

... on and on and on this guy is out of control, has been for 5 years and shows no sign of letting up.

What else??? Well, you can see that Mr Goathed toes the absolute middle line as to Wikipedia policy of WP:CIVIL, WP:DISPUTE, WP:NPV, WP:GAME, WP:NOTABILITY, WP:OWN etc... and for you to have the same kind of "hair trigger" as this goon has, when he steps off of the thin, narrow middle line. There is enough history. Goeathen is example of why Wikipedia is a hell hole it is.

Wake up and look... Blindness is not a very good trait to have as an admin?




Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 19th October 2010, 3:03am) *

From what I can see, he's got some sort of hair-trigger JoeHazelton thing going on, where he sees your socks just about *everywhere* and uses that as a justification to shut down other editors. Now *that* is not cool. I can watch our for and possibly deal with that sort of thing. But what else?


Perhaps, but he doesn't block them himself that I can see, just files the sock reports. Scrolling down through the lengthy Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joehazelton (T-H-L-K-D), seems like a hell of a lot of confirmations by a variety of admins.

So Joe, this is really all about civility? You stalk a guy for 4 years because he was mean to you on teh internets? I figured it was something political or ideological, which while also retarded, would at least be understandable.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 19th October 2010, 11:53am) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 19th October 2010, 3:03am) *

From what I can see, he's got some sort of hair-trigger JoeHazelton thing going on, where he sees your socks just about *everywhere* and uses that as a justification to shut down other editors. Now *that* is not cool. I can watch our for and possibly deal with that sort of thing. But what else?


Perhaps, but he doesn't block them himself that I can see, just files the sock reports. Scrolling down through the lengthy Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joehazelton (T-H-L-K-D), seems like a hell of a lot of confirmations by a variety of admins.

So Joe, this is really all about civility? You stalk a guy for 4 years because he was mean to you on teh internets? I figured it was something political or ideological, which while also retarded, would at least be understandable.


It was always about "RIGHT" not about the religion of "Wiki"

Lest not forget that "WIKI" is a http://www.cow.net/transcript.txt.

and http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=63722

as well as all the other "http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=4?

Finely, you Tac ... apparently your drunk on Grape Jimmy Juice, with out regard to any collective good for the rest of humanity.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 19th October 2010, 6:23pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 19th October 2010, 11:53am) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 19th October 2010, 3:03am) *

From what I can see, he's got some sort of hair-trigger JoeHazelton thing going on, where he sees your socks just about *everywhere* and uses that as a justification to shut down other editors. Now *that* is not cool. I can watch our for and possibly deal with that sort of thing. But what else?


Perhaps, but he doesn't block them himself that I can see, just files the sock reports. Scrolling down through the lengthy Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joehazelton (T-H-L-K-D), seems like a hell of a lot of confirmations by a variety of admins.

So Joe, this is really all about civility? You stalk a guy for 4 years because he was mean to you on teh internets? I figured it was something political or ideological, which while also retarded, would at least be understandable.


It was always about "RIGHT" not about the religion of "Wiki"

Lest not forget that "WIKI" is a http://www.cow.net/transcript.txt.

and http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=63722

as well as all the other "http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=4?

Finely, you Tac ... apparently your drunk on Grape Jimmy Juice, with out regard to any collective good for the rest of humanity.


In spectacular JoeHazleton fashion, you didn't even address what I said.

Someone was mean to you on the internet. Big deal. You come across like a newbie that got banned from /b/.


Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 20th October 2010, 10:38am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 19th October 2010, 6:23pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 19th October 2010, 11:53am) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 19th October 2010, 3:03am) *

From what I can see, he's got some sort of hair-trigger JoeHazelton thing going on, where he sees your socks just about *everywhere* and uses that as a justification to shut down other editors. Now *that* is not cool. I can watch our for and possibly deal with that sort of thing. But what else?


Perhaps, but he doesn't block them himself that I can see, just files the sock reports. Scrolling down through the lengthy Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joehazelton (T-H-L-K-D), seems like a hell of a lot of confirmations by a variety of admins.

So Joe, this is really all about civility? You stalk a guy for 4 years because he was mean to you on teh internets? I figured it was something political or ideological, which while also retarded, would at least be understandable.


It was always about "RIGHT" not about the religion of "Wiki"

Lest not forget that "WIKI" is a http://www.cow.net/transcript.txt.

and http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=63722

as well as all the other "http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=4?

Finely, you Tac ... apparently your drunk on Grape Jimmy Juice, with out regard to any collective good for the rest of humanity.


In spectacular JoeHazleton fashion, you didn't even address what I said.

Someone was mean to you on the internet. Big deal. You come across like a newbie that got banned from /b/.


Again, you fail to pick up what I said. I will stated in plain language.

First and foremost, I don't recognize your cult religion of wiki.

Second, http://wikipediareview.com/blog/category/social-irresponsibility/ and in the long term needs to be shut down.

Third, In the short term, it's fair game to point out Hypocrisy, hate, and hurt Wikipedia and its admin do, as well I will use the rules to protect some of my friends whose (so called) bios exist on Wikipedia, in the short term, even though the wiki rules are almost nonexistent.

Fourth, To use Goethean as a "poster child" of the malfeasance on Wikipedia by pointing out Wikpedia governance, on a micro level.

Fifth, It's personal.

Ps... I did no wrong, under natural law, but me and my friends where wronged. You defend the evil by saying I deserved it... your really are drunk on Jimmy Juice. Wikipedia is wrong and that fact is proven on this web site (WR) by testimony and published fact beyond doubt. Wikipedia wrong should be blamed for the evil, hurt, lies, defamation, and enabling little religious bigots like Geothean to ply his trade on a website with such Google juice (high Google search engine placement).

Posted by: The Joy

The only way to truly get rid of someone on Wikipedia is to have the patience of an Ent (T-H-L-K-D) and the stealthiness of a ninja.

1-) Start a new account preferably with a new IP address.

2-) Edit in non-controversial areas for several months.

3-) Do several content-happy things such as "Did You Knows?", Good Articles, and Featured Articles.

4-) Work on content with a few administrator editors.

5-) Ask these administrators for help on minor and major things (content, behavioral issues, etc.)

6-) During this time, note Goethean's contributions and the articles he edits. Do not cross with him for the first few months until you are sure that you have a good rapport with the administrators you have befriended.

7-) Make edits on articles near and dear to Goethean's heart. Be sure your edits are within WP's content policy and backed by proper citations, but make sure this counters Goethean's biases on the articles. Eventually, he will confront you.

8-) Argue your case for making the changes based strictly on WP policy. Ask one or more of your administrator friends for guidance in dealing with the dispute.

9-) Back off from the subject for a while (a month or so) to show that you are humble. Revisit Goethean's articles and do Steps 7 and 8 until you and Goethean's dispute is brought up to a public noticeboard. Never initiate the proceedings yourself.

10-) These actions will inevitably reach public noticeboards like the Administrator Noticeboards. Keep calm and again argue your cause for your edits based strictly on WP policy. Ask one or more of your administrator friends that have seen or taken part in mediating between you and Goethean.

11-) At no point on Wikipedia (especially on the noticeboards) should you attack Goethean personally. Note with "diffs" his violations of WP's "CIVIL" and "NO PERSONAL ATTACKS" policies. Note also your attempts to work with him and his resistance. Your administrator friends will likely back you up and provide evidence of their own.

12-) Agree to work on Dispute Resolution (Wikiquette Alerts, Requests for Mediation, Requests for Comment, etc.) with Goethean. If he's as hot-tempered as you make him out to be, he'll refuse. If he doesn't refuse, just go along with it and focus only on Wikipedia policy and how you've adhered to it while Goethean has not. Suggest politely how Goethean could change his behavior and, humbly, admit how you may have done wrong and how you will change yourself to be a better beloved Wikipedian. Humor Goethean's suggestions to change your own behavior.

13-) After completing Dispute Resolution, repeat Step 9 and, if necessary, 10, 11, and 12.

14-) Repeat Step 13 until Goethean finally explodes and commits gross violations of CIVIL and NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. Ask your administrator friends for help. They will likely tell you to take it for wider public comment. Bring this to a public noticeboard like AN/I. The Community will likely sanction or ban Goethean or tell you take it to Arbitration.

15-) By now, you've completed Dispute Resolution and had multiple witnesses, including your powerful administrator friends, to Goethean's violations. You have given him enough rope and have enough evidence to get the Arbitration Committee or the Community to ban him.

16-) Goethean may return after a time on wiki-parole or after his ban. If he still gets your goat, simply repeat this process and always take the high road of kindness and wiki-love. He'll be banned again before you know it! It's even better when he socks and you can go to Tiptoety and ask him to ban Goethean's socks! The irony!

That is how you successfully remove your enemies from Wikipedia. The downside is it takes months, a year, or more than a year to go through all the necessary steps, but that's how it is. How does a flea drain an elephant of it's blood? Little by little over a very long time. You must have patience (and maybe even be psychotic) to go through all this trouble.

What's also sad is that if this were television, you would at the end win a million dollars from Jeff Probst (T-H-L-K-D). dry.gif

Anything else I missed? unsure.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(The Joy @ Thu 21st October 2010, 2:34am) *

The only way to truly get rid of someone on Wikipedia is to have the patience of an Ent (T-H-L-K-D) and the stealthiness of a ninja.

1-) Start a new account preferably with a new IP address.

2-) Edit in non-controversial areas for several months.

3-) Do several content-happy things such as "Did You Knows?", Good Articles, and Featured Articles.

4-) Work on content with a few administrator editors.

5-) Ask these administrators for help on minor and major things (content, behavioral issues, etc.)

6-) During this time, note Goethean's contributions and the articles he edits. Do not cross with him for the first few months until you are sure that you have a good rapport with the administrators you have befriended.

7-) Make edits on articles near and dear to Goethean's heart. Be sure your edits are within WP's content policy and backed by proper citations, but make sure this counters Goethean's biases on the articles. Eventually, he will confront you.

8-) Argue your case for making the changes based strictly on WP policy. Ask one or more of your administrator friends for guidance in dealing with the dispute.

9-) Back off from the subject for a while (a month or so) to show that you are humble. Revisit Goethean's articles and do Steps 7 and 8 until you and Goethean's dispute is brought up to a public noticeboard. Never initiate the proceedings yourself.

10-) These actions will inevitably reach public noticeboards like the Administrator Noticeboards. Keep calm and again argue your cause for your edits based strictly on WP policy. Ask one or more of your administrator friends that have seen or taken part in mediating between you and Goethean.

11-) At no point on Wikipedia (especially on the noticeboards) should you attack Goethean personally. Note with "diffs" his violations of WP's "CIVIL" and "NO PERSONAL ATTACKS" policies. Note also your attempts to work with him and his resistance. Your administrator friends will likely back you up and provide evidence of their own.

12-) Agree to work on Dispute Resolution (Wikiquette Alerts, Requests for Mediation, Requests for Comment, etc.) with Goethean. If he's as hot-tempered as you make him out to be, he'll refuse. If he doesn't refuse, just go along with it and focus only on Wikipedia policy and how you've adhered to it while Goethean has not. Suggest politely how Goethean could change his behavior and, humbly, admit how you may have done wrong and how you will change yourself to be a better beloved Wikipedian. Humor Goethean's suggestions to change your own behavior.

13-) After completing Dispute Resolution, repeat Step 9 and, if necessary, 10, 11, and 12.

14-) Repeat Step 13 until Goethean finally explodes and commits gross violations of CIVIL and NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. Ask your administrator friends for help. They will likely tell you to take it for wider public comment. Bring this to a public noticeboard like AN/I. The Community will likely sanction or ban Goethean or tell you take it to Arbitration.

15-) By now, you've completed Dispute Resolution and had multiple witnesses, including your powerful administrator friends, to Goethean's violations. You have given him enough rope and have enough evidence to get the Arbitration Committee or the Community to ban him.

16-) Goethean may return after a time on wiki-parole or after his ban. If he still gets your goat, simply repeat this process and always take the high road of kindness and wiki-love. He'll be banned again before you know it! It's even better when he socks and you can go to Tiptoety and ask him to ban Goethean's socks! The irony!

That is how you successfully remove your enemies from Wikipedia. The downside is it takes months, a year, or more than a year to go through all the necessary steps, but that's how it is. How does a flea drain an elephant of it's blood? Little by little over a very long time. You must have patience (and maybe even be psychotic) to go through all this trouble.

What's also sad is that if this were television, you would at the end win a million dollars from Jeff Probst (T-H-L-K-D). dry.gif

Anything else I missed? unsure.gif


How do you know I'm not in process.

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 21st October 2010, 3:28am) *
How do you know I'm not in process.

Because you wouldn't have time to post new threads about Goatbag here if you were doing all that stuff...? unsure.gif

I actually consider User:Goethean's most egregious offenses to be some of the more recent ones, which suggests that he's burning out and losing patience to some degree. In particular, his insistence on http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=28921&view=findpost&p=246690 seemed like the sort of thing someone would do once he started getting less interested in the gamesmanship and more interested in just getting pissed off at anyone who disagrees with him.

Alison, you participated in that thread - were you not reading the posts about what he was actually doing? IMO people have been banned for less than that before, at least when it was Christian or Jewish religious figures being attacked in that fashion. Then again, they banned User:Ptmccain and a variety of others for trying to defend Western religious figures too... but hey, inconsistent application of rules is what Wikipedia is all about, I suppose.

Posted by: Sxeptomaniac

QUOTE(The Joy @ Thu 21st October 2010, 12:34am) *

The only way to truly get rid of someone on Wikipedia is to have the patience of an Ent (T-H-L-K-D) and the stealthiness of a ninja.

Patience and cunning... I'm sure everyone immediately thinks of VOC when those words come up.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 21st October 2010, 3:58am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 21st October 2010, 3:28am) *
How do you know I'm not in process.

Because you wouldn't have time to post new threads about Goatbag here if you were doing all that stuff...? unsure.gif

I actually consider User:Goethean's most egregious offenses to be some of the more recent ones, which suggests that he's burning out and losing patience to some degree. In particular, his insistence on http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=28921&view=findpost&p=246690 seemed like the sort of thing someone would do once he started getting less interested in the gamesmanship and more interested in just getting pissed off at anyone who disagrees with him.

Alison, you participated in that thread - were you not reading the posts about what he was actually doing? IMO people have been banned for less than that before, at least when it was Christian or Jewish religious figures being attacked in that fashion. Then again, they banned User:Ptmccain and a variety of others for trying to defend Western religious figures too... but hey, inconsistent application of rules is what Wikipedia is all about, I suppose.


Actually, I have been doing a lot of walking precincts for Brady, Fortner, Hultgen and don't have that kind of time, since Real life is more important the the religion of wiki.

Maybe 3 or 4 years ago I would have taken the time, but in the present, I push in efforts to educate the local elected officials, particularity the congressmen (personally know 3) to change section 260 CDMA and the total evil and lies which wiki is all about.

Any rate Alison, by her ignoring Gothed's antics is enabling them and by her inaction, consents to them. No amount of apologetic will change that fact.

Any rate, I watch and wait.

http://www.strippingthegurus.com/stgsamplechapters/integralcensorship.asp

Posted by: Sxeptomaniac

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 21st October 2010, 1:16pm) *

Real life is more important the the religion of wiki.

wtf.gif

This is a sensible, fairly wise statement.

Posted by: Subtle Bee

QUOTE(Sxeptomaniac @ Thu 21st October 2010, 1:40pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 21st October 2010, 1:16pm) *

Real life is more important the the religion of wiki.

wtf.gif

This is a sensible, fairly wise statement.

well, almost.

Posted by: victim of censorship

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=User_talk:Goethean

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGoethean&action=historysubmit&diff=391331802&oldid=391318728


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Goethean&diff=cur&oldid=391845004

What are you afraid of? Are you afraid that, me, (an uneducated person) will show you to be worng? Whats the matter, You can't face your accuser and tell me why your so right and the world at large so wrong??? You may have friends who enable your antics here (Wikipedia) but in real life, you're just a little man, wound to tight and full of nonsense. Again show me, at Wikipedia review, why you are not an evil pimple on the ass of life.~~~~"

Update.... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Goethean&diff=cur&oldid=391845004

Posted by: Subtle Bee

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 21st October 2010, 2:41pm) *

Again show me, at Wikipedia review, why you are not an evil pimple on the ass of life.~~~~"

For the love of God, please make this the next site tagline. Thx!

Posted by: TungstenCarbide

QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Thu 21st October 2010, 10:06pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 21st October 2010, 2:41pm) *

Again show me, at Wikipedia review, why you are not an evil pimple on the ass of life.~~~~"
For the love of God, please make this the next site tagline. Thx!

+1

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 21st October 2010, 3:16pm) *
...in the present, I push in efforts to educate the local elected officials, particularity the congressmen (personally know 3) to change section 260 CDMA...

Well, no wonder we're not making more progress on this issue! You're trying to get them to change the wrong section! ohmy.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 21st October 2010, 8:48pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 21st October 2010, 3:16pm) *
...in the present, I push in efforts to educate the local elected officials, particularity the congressmen (personally know 3) to change section 260 CDMA...

Well, no wonder we're not making more progress on this issue! You're trying to get them to change the wrong section! ohmy.gif


230... sorry ...

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Thu 21st October 2010, 4:45pm) *

QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Thu 21st October 2010, 10:06pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 21st October 2010, 2:41pm) *

Again show me, at Wikipedia review, why you are not an evil pimple on the ass of life.~~~~"
For the love of God, please make this the next site tagline. Thx!

+1

Yeah, Somey, you have to do it for at least a week. biggrin.gif

(Damn, for all our effort, we were unable to actually prove it mathematically...)

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 21st October 2010, 11:02pm) *
Yeah, Somey, you have to do it for at least a week. biggrin.gif

Come on, now you sound like my sex therapist!

I thought we were supposed to be a "family" website? I don't think I've ever put anything truly vulgar up there - maybe there's another word we could use for "ass" that wouldn't ruin the line?

Besides, it makes no sense unless it's in context. If it just says, "Show us why you are not an evil pimple on the ass of life," casual readers might think they're being insulted, i.e., it's directed at whoever happens to read it. But if it says, "Show us why Goethean is not an evil pimple on the ass of life," then it only makes sense to people who know who "Goethean" is, which (perhaps thankfully) isn't a very large number of people. What's more, why should they have to show us? That's not their job.

If there's a way to make it more universally appealing without being taken the wrong way by casual visitors, then sure... there must be a way, right? I'll have to think about it - right now, though, I'm coming off a lengthy work-jag and I can't think so creatively.

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 21st October 2010, 11:03pm) *


230... sorry ...


You need to lose weight, Joe. Cut the kielbasa and try to get some aerobics in. ermm.gif

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

QUOTE(Somey @ Fri 22nd October 2010, 6:24am) *

I thought we were supposed to be a "family" website? […]

You might consider rephrasing that for the sarcasm-impaired. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 21st October 2010, 11:24pm) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 21st October 2010, 11:02pm) *
Yeah, Somey, you have to do it for at least a week. biggrin.gif

Come on, now you sound like my sex therapist!

I thought we were supposed to be a "family" website? I don't think I've ever put anything truly vulgar up there - maybe there's another word we could use for "ass" that wouldn't ruin the line?

Besides, it makes no sense unless it's in context. If it just says, "Show us why you are not an evil pimple on the ass of life," casual readers might think they're being insulted, i.e., it's directed at whoever happens to read it. But if it says, "Show us why Goethean is not an evil pimple on the ass of life," then it only makes sense to people who know who "Goethean" is, which (perhaps thankfully) isn't a very large number of people. What's more, why should they have to show us? That's not their job.

If there's a way to make it more universally appealing without being taken the wrong way by casual visitors, then sure... there must be a way, right? I'll have to think about it - right now, though, I'm coming off a lengthy work-jag and I can't think so creatively.

I was thinking of the WR tagline. Inistead of "Clearly stated, strength is always health" (sounds like Neitzsche after reading Marcus Aurelius again), you could have something like:

Wikipedia Review: We can't prove we are not an evil pimple on the ass of life. mellow.gif

Which suggests a caption motto contest for WR, to run along side our long-standing one for WP. smile.gif

BTW, anybody writing a book about WR could do worse than use a lot of those for chapter-header quotes. And maybe a end chapter with the rest of them. Sort of a "Raspberries for Wikipedia."

She wore a
Raspberry beret
The kind you notice if you're kind of gay
Raspberry beret
If she wore just that I would be really bored
Raspberry beret
I think I love me...

Posted by: EricBarbour

Nobody noticed http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=27751?

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 21st October 2010, 3:58am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Thu 21st October 2010, 3:28am) *
How do you know I'm not in process.

Because you wouldn't have time to post new threads about Goatbag here if you were doing all that stuff...? unsure.gif

I actually consider User:Goethean's most egregious offenses to be some of the more recent ones, which suggests that he's burning out and losing patience to some degree. In particular, his insistence on http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=28921&view=findpost&p=246690 seemed like the sort of thing someone would do once he started getting less interested in the gamesmanship and more interested in just getting pissed off at anyone who disagrees with him.

Alison, you participated in that thread - were you not reading the posts about what he was actually doing? IMO people have been banned for less than that before, at least when it was Christian or Jewish religious figures being attacked in that fashion. Then again, they banned User:Ptmccain and a variety of others for trying to defend Western religious figures too... but hey, inconsistent application of rules is what Wikipedia is all about, I suppose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atheism_Dispute&diff=prev&oldid=392842307
This little man needs to be kicked off of Wikipedia.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 20th October 2010, 11:56am) *

Fifth, It's personal.


Actually, that's really the heart of 1-4 as well. You don't honestly care about the "Evils of Wikipedia" itself; it is just ammo to use against this gothean guy because it's something he likes/does.

Posted by: Zoloft

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 26th October 2010, 9:29am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 20th October 2010, 11:56am) *

Fifth, It's personal.


Actually, that's really the heart of 1-4 as well. You don't honestly care about the "Evils of Wikipedia" itself; it is just ammo to use against this gothean guy because it's something he likes/does.

I feel that Joe's feelings about Wikipedia are genuine. He has a vision of the corruption and naked aggression displayed by some Wikipedians that is fierce and vivid - worthy almost of Dante Alighieri.

Ye have been cast into a lake of burning feces in Joe's eyes.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Zoloft @ Tue 26th October 2010, 12:05pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 26th October 2010, 9:29am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 20th October 2010, 11:56am) *

Fifth, It's personal.


Actually, that's really the heart of 1-4 as well. You don't honestly care about the "Evils of Wikipedia" itself; it is just ammo to use against this gothean guy because it's something he likes/does.

I feel that Joe's feelings about Wikipedia are genuine. He has a vision of the corruption and naked aggression displayed by some Wikipedians that is fierce and vivid - worthy almost of Dante Alighieri.

Ye have been cast into a lake of burning feces in Joe's eyes.


Try this for intercultural violence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Joehazelton/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=386949668

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atheism_Dispute&diff=393097947&oldid=392904999and the rest of the bullies of Wikipedia.


again, the people who run Wikipedia are scummy, deceitful, lying cowards.

Wikipedia is unworthy of any thing now, but vandalism, (which is legal) and any and all legal means to destroy it. Wikipedia is evil of the worst kind. a wolf in sheep clothing, pretending as to be something good, but evil in its actions by evil people with the morels of rat and the soul of Pol Pot.

I SPIT ON IT and all who enable it.

Finely to Goethean. This man is a shameful corrupt lowlife.. What is frighting is He works a private trade-school/university and spreads his filth to those who don't know any better.

This coward is afraid to defend himself under real debate of his point of view. I have no respect for a bullyboy like this little prick.

All admins are enablers to the violence and corruption of Wikipedia.

Posted by: Alison

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 26th October 2010, 6:14pm) *

All admins are enablers to the violence and corruption of Wikipedia.

Sure, but http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASockpuppet_investigations%2FJoehazelton%2FArchive&action=historysubmit&diff=386891587&oldid=386866951, Joe? blink.gif

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 7:49pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 26th October 2010, 6:14pm) *

All admins are enablers to the violence and corruption of Wikipedia.

Sure, but http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASockpuppet_investigations%2FJoehazelton%2FArchive&action=historysubmit&diff=386891587&oldid=386866951, Joe? blink.gif

I had to look that one up. Indeed, "zipperhead" is Asian ethnic slur, so says Google. huh.gif

Proposed etymology doesn't look too http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zipperhead. Gotta be an old foggy term used by military who served in continental Asia before the Vietnam era. Which would put Joe in his mid 60's, at least. blink.gif Which I suppose doesn't surprise me. He probably actually remembers sock hops.

Or, maybe he just saw Grand Torino too many times.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 9:49pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 26th October 2010, 6:14pm) *

All admins are enablers to the violence and corruption of Wikipedia.

Sure, but http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASockpuppet_investigations%2FJoehazelton%2FArchive&action=historysubmit&diff=386891587&oldid=386866951, Joe? blink.gif

FUCK YOU and FUCK your out of context, personal attack with your race card BULLSHIT.

zipper head is a Frankenstein with a criminal brain dropped in to the brain pan...
That's the context of the statement, you need do be more in tune with US slang.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zipperhead&page=2 see in particular definition 8,9,10,~ 14

http://www.spirithalloween.com/product/12pk-zipperhead-clown-mnxl/


http://www.wordspy.com/words/zipperhead.asp

The meaning of words evolve and change over time, see the word Gay as an example...

But you had to drop the race card, typical of the liberal jackasses who are better the thou...
and who can not win the augment with out ad houminum, smear and lies.
Fuck you for enabling the cowards on Wikipedia.
PC is dead honey bun... I will not be censored my some moron drinking PCU. juice.

Lastly, I have no feeling of ill will for "Asian" but what is disturbing is your ease which you assume I was some how guilty of a "thought crime" and your were so eager to condemn me of this, even though your are ignorant of the meanings of the word I use has and the context of my use.

PS Goethean is of "German descent" not India (I have proof in the form of a picture of him as well as his full name, which I can share in private if you like), I would think they (Asian Indians) would not want a lowlife like Goathed among them.

Posted by: Alison

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 26th October 2010, 8:33pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 9:49pm) *

Sure, but http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASockpuppet_investigations%2FJoehazelton%2FArchive&action=historysubmit&diff=386891587&oldid=386866951, Joe? blink.gif

FUCK YOU and FUCK your out of context, personal attack with your race card BULLSHIT.

zipper head is a Frankenstein with a criminal brain dropped in to the brain pan...
That's the context of the statement, you need do be more in tune with US slang.

Joe, I work and live in an area where http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Cupertino.htm - I know what it fucking means angry.gif In fact, spout that kinda shit around here and you'll learn pretty quickly what it means, too ohmy.gif
QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 26th October 2010, 8:33pm) *

and who can not win the augment with out ad houminum, smear and lies.

Who was first with the ad hominems, Joe? laugh.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 10:39pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 26th October 2010, 8:33pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 9:49pm) *

Sure, but http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASockpuppet_investigations%2FJoehazelton%2FArchive&action=historysubmit&diff=386891587&oldid=386866951, Joe? blink.gif

FUCK YOU and FUCK your out of context, personal attack with your race card BULLSHIT.

zipper head is a Frankenstein with a criminal brain dropped in to the brain pan...
That's the context of the statement, you need do be more in tune with US slang.

Joe, I work and live in an area where http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Cupertino.htm - I know what it fucking means angry.gif In fact, spout that kinda shit around here and you'll learn pretty quickly what it means, too ohmy.gif



I live in Chicago, and the term has changed and evolved.


You were first with the race card attack... I don't like it as it was a personal and slanderous attack on my personal character.

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 10:39pm) *
Joe, I work and live in an area where http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Cupertino.htm - I know what it fucking means angry.gif

Seriously, Alison, in the Midwest we just don't know that definition. I didn't know it until just now, and I'm originally from the East Coast - the Washington DC area, where Asian folks represent a fairly substantial minority. In Chicago, I can definitely see how someone might not be aware of that meaning.

And one more thing - why do we avoid mentioning Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's real name? He's used it on so many websites at this point, it's utterly trivial to find it now, including photos. Are we just holding back because we know he'll accuse us of "outing" him anyway? And if so, doesn't anybody over there on WP realize this guy is basically full of shit?

I'll admit that Mr. Victim's activities regarding "Goethean" are rather obsessive, and like many others here I do wish he'd tone it down, but the fact remains, Goethean is a classic WP "POV pusher" and hardly anything is ever done to stop him.

Posted by: Alison

QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 26th October 2010, 8:59pm) *

Seriously, Alison, in the Midwest we just don't know that definition. I didn't know it until just now, and I'm originally from the East Coast - the Washington DC area, where Asian folks represent a fairly substantial minority. In Chicago, I can definitely see how someone might not be aware of that meaning.

Does that mean I somehow saved Joe from getting punched on the snot next time he's out West and drops that one into polite conversation? Dayum! tongue.gif

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 11:06pm) *
Does that mean I somehow saved Joe from getting punched on the snot next time he's out West and drops that one into polite conversation? Dayum! tongue.gif

I doubt "Joe" would ever come within 300 miles of the Bay Area, for fear of the cooties from all the gay guys. Besides, his true ambitions lie in the opposite direction... evilgrin.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 26th October 2010, 10:59pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 10:39pm) *
Joe, I work and live in an area where http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Cupertino.htm - I know what it fucking means angry.gif

Seriously, Alison, in the Midwest we just don't know that definition. I didn't know it until just now, and I'm originally from the East Coast - the Washington DC area, where Asian folks represent a fairly substantial minority. In Chicago, I can definitely see how someone might not be aware of that meaning.

And one more thing - why do we avoid mentioning Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's real name? He's used it on so many websites at this point, it's utterly trivial to find it now, including photos. Are we just holding back because we know he'll accuse us of "outing" him anyway? And if so, doesn't anybody over there on WP realize this guy is basically full of shit?

I'll admit that Mr. Victim's activities regarding "Goethean" are rather obsessive, and like many others here I do wish he'd tone it down, but the fact remains, Goethean is a classic WP "POV pusher" and hardly anything is ever done to stop him.


My Obsessive interest is due to goatherd obsessive Joe Hazelton complex as well as his stalking me on Wikipedia. Since he wants to play, that way, then I'm game, my goal is to get him removed. Now Alison you could release me from Mr Mdick the beaded whale, if you keep an eye on this dude and bannhammer him out, when he gets rowdy again (which he will). Then I will be done and back to my light hobby of destroying wiki rather then Goathed.

Posted by: TungstenCarbide

QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Tue 19th October 2010, 1:43am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 19th October 2010, 12:39am) *
I bet Goathead loves to suck the dicks of some of the admins, like MuZemike (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

I've never made more than a handful of edits per month, most of them unproblematic, yet MuZemike just blocked tens of thousands of IP addresses because of littl'ol me. I win. ImageImageImageImageImageImage

I'm usually too lazy to proxy in, but I just might spend the 4 minutes it takes to go there and gloat. biggrin.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Titleblacklist&diff=prev&oldid=393156681

Holy Cow, MuZemike is really mad. He blocked my latest proxy for 5 years!. Good thing they are free and easy to find and inexhaustible smile.gif

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

I did confront vic about his use of this epithet once before.

Unfortunately he responded in non sequiturs.

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 14th July 2010, 12:07am) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Tue 13th July 2010, 10:12pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 13th July 2010, 8:10pm) *

But a zipper head…

You might experiment with less offensive phrases such as "shit head", "dick head", "meat head", "knuckle head", "fuck head", "piss head", etc. Thanks.

But yes, Gran Torino is one of my favorite films too.

There are two kinds in the world, real people, who understand and operate in social acceptable ways, and there the Malignant JACK ASSES THAT ARE WIPEDITOTS.


Posted by: Sxeptomaniac

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 26th October 2010, 8:43pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 10:39pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 26th October 2010, 8:33pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 9:49pm) *

Sure, but http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASockpuppet_investigations%2FJoehazelton%2FArchive&action=historysubmit&diff=386891587&oldid=386866951, Joe? blink.gif

FUCK YOU and FUCK your out of context, personal attack with your race card BULLSHIT.

zipper head is a Frankenstein with a criminal brain dropped in to the brain pan...
That's the context of the statement, you need do be more in tune with US slang.

Joe, I work and live in an area where http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Cupertino.htm - I know what it fucking means angry.gif In fact, spout that kinda shit around here and you'll learn pretty quickly what it means, too ohmy.gif


I live in Chicago, and the term has changed and evolved.


You were first with the race card attack... I don't like it as it was a personal and slanderous attack on my personal character.

You see, VIC, the intelligent thing would be to say that you were unaware of that meaning, did not mean it that way, and will not use it again. The jackass response is pretty close to what you've chosen (no surprise). Don't make excuses about how the term has "evolved," because that's bullshit and I think you know it.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Sxeptomaniac @ Thu 28th October 2010, 1:00am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 26th October 2010, 8:43pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 10:39pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 26th October 2010, 8:33pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 9:49pm) *

Sure, but http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASockpuppet_investigations%2FJoehazelton%2FArchive&action=historysubmit&diff=386891587&oldid=386866951, Joe? blink.gif

FUCK YOU and FUCK your out of context, personal attack with your race card BULLSHIT.

zipper head is a Frankenstein with a criminal brain dropped in to the brain pan...
That's the context of the statement, you need do be more in tune with US slang.

Joe, I work and live in an area where http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Cupertino.htm - I know what it fucking means angry.gif In fact, spout that kinda shit around here and you'll learn pretty quickly what it means, too ohmy.gif


I live in Chicago, and the term has changed and evolved.


You were first with the race card attack... I don't like it as it was a personal and slanderous attack on my personal character.

You see, VIC, the intelligent thing would be to say that you were unaware of that meaning, did not mean it that way, and will not use it again. The jackass response is pretty close to what you've chosen (no surprise). Don't make excuses about how the term has "evolved," because that's bullshit and I think you know it.

Why don't blame the cause, you blame the victim, (those like me and my friends who are hurt by the pricks on Wikipedia) in this case, wheres you indignation for those like Goethean, you, and the wikipeidiots, maleficent admins and other enablers who consent to the evil on Wikipedia. Where to you check in concerning the classic WP POV PUSHER, Goethean, who is not stopped, or even called to task, and when any one does call Goathean to task, he get bannhammered, with no proof or justification. I accuse you as the problem, an enabler to this thuggery, but you attack me, ad-houmium as a raciest and that's ok.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 27th October 2010, 4:39am) *

QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 26th October 2010, 10:59pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 10:39pm) *
Joe, I work and live in an area where http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Cupertino.htm - I know what it fucking means angry.gif

Seriously, Alison, in the Midwest we just don't know that definition. I didn't know it until just now, and I'm originally from the East Coast - the Washington DC area, where Asian folks represent a fairly substantial minority. In Chicago, I can definitely see how someone might not be aware of that meaning.

And one more thing - why do we avoid mentioning Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's real name? He's used it on so many websites at this point, it's utterly trivial to find it now, including photos. Are we just holding back because we know he'll accuse us of "outing" him anyway? And if so, doesn't anybody over there on WP realize this guy is basically full of shit?

I'll admit that Mr. Victim's activities regarding "Goethean" are rather obsessive, and like many others here I do wish he'd tone it down, but the fact remains, Goethean is a classic WP "POV pusher" and hardly anything is ever done to stop him.


My Obsessive interest is due to goatherd obsessive Joe Hazelton complex as well as his stalking me on Wikipedia. Since he wants to play, that way, then I'm game, my goal is to get him removed. Now Alison you could release me from Mr Mdick the beaded whale, if you keep an eye on this dude and bannhammer him out, when he gets rowdy again (which he will). Then I will be done and back to my light hobby of destroying wiki rather then Goathed.


Seeing how you are an utter failure on both fronts so far, Joe, I don't think either the WMF or gothean has much to worry about.

WMF:

We've never really seen anything of substance from you regarding the WMF...whatever happened with that vague hand-waving about pending lawsuits or the local politicians you're allegedly buddies with?

Gothean:

You're never going to accomplish anything regarding him by doing this lame sock-of-the-day shtick, especially when you're so retardedly obvious, i.e. User:Chicago nights suburban days (T-H-L-K-D)]. In many ways, Wikipedia really is an MMORPG, and if you want to slay the monsters then you have to actually play the game of AN/I/s, RFCs, ArbComs and such.

If I thought you were capable, I'd suggest trying to maintain a legitimate account and then engage gothean in some form of dispute resolution, get some more outside eyes on whatever the beef is.

Posted by: Alison

QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 1st November 2010, 9:43am) *

Seeing how you are an utter failure on both fronts so far, Joe, I don't think either the WMF or gothean has much to worry about.

WMF:

We've never really seen anything of substance from you regarding the WMF...whatever happened with that vague hand-waving about pending lawsuits or the local politicians you're allegedly buddies with?

Gothean:

You're never going to accomplish anything regarding him by doing this lame sock-of-the-day shtick, especially when you're so retardedly obvious, i.e. User:Chicago nights suburban days (T-H-L-K-D)]. In many ways, Wikipedia really is an MMORPG, and if you want to slay the monsters then you have to actually play the game of AN/I/s, RFCs, ArbComs and such.

If I thought you were capable, I'd suggest trying to maintain a legitimate account and then engage gothean in some form of dispute resolution, get some more outside eyes on whatever the beef is.

Goethean went running straight to WP:SPI with the above sock - why, I don't know, as it's painfully obvious who it is. I ran the case anyways - largely so http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGoethean&action=historysubmit&diff=394195771&oldid=393615418 on his http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ben_Lowe&action=history on the Ben Lowe article, and because I've started watching the "Joe and Goathead Show" since it recently came up on here.

It's pretty clear that *both* of them are off the mark here. From the article above, it's clear that Joe wants to remove some apologetics from Ben Lowe's own site that Goethean insists on including. Joe wants to paint the Democrat in a bad light, whereas Goathead will hear nothing bad of the guy, and will be happy to cite Ben Lowe making excuses for himself (in violation of WP:SPS).

In short; it's like watching two Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots, where two wingnuts beat each other endlessly over the head. The major difference, really, being that Goathead knows how to play the WikiGameâ„¢, but Joe does not bored.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 1st November 2010, 11:43am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 27th October 2010, 4:39am) *

QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 26th October 2010, 10:59pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 26th October 2010, 10:39pm) *
Joe, I work and live in an area where http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Cupertino.htm - I know what it fucking means angry.gif

Seriously, Alison, in the Midwest we just don't know that definition. I didn't know it until just now, and I'm originally from the East Coast - the Washington DC area, where Asian folks represent a fairly substantial minority. In Chicago, I can definitely see how someone might not be aware of that meaning.

And one more thing - why do we avoid mentioning Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's real name? He's used it on so many websites at this point, it's utterly trivial to find it now, including photos. Are we just holding back because we know he'll accuse us of "outing" him anyway? And if so, doesn't anybody over there on WP realize this guy is basically full of shit?

I'll admit that Mr. Victim's activities regarding "Goethean" are rather obsessive, and like many others here I do wish he'd tone it down, but the fact remains, Goethean is a classic WP "POV pusher" and hardly anything is ever done to stop him.


My Obsessive interest is due to goatherd obsessive Joe Hazelton complex as well as his stalking me on Wikipedia. Since he wants to play, that way, then I'm game, my goal is to get him removed. Now Alison you could release me from Mr Mdick the beaded whale, if you keep an eye on this dude and bannhammer him out, when he gets rowdy again (which he will). Then I will be done and back to my light hobby of destroying wiki rather then Goathed.


Seeing how you are an utter failure on both fronts so far, Joe, I don't think either the WMF or gothean has much to worry about.

WMF:

We've never really seen anything of substance from you regarding the WMF...whatever happened with that vague hand-waving about pending lawsuits or the local politicians you're allegedly buddies with?

Gothean:

You're never going to accomplish anything regarding him by doing this lame sock-of-the-day shtick, especially when you're so retardedly obvious, i.e. User:Chicago nights suburban days (T-H-L-K-D)]. In many ways, Wikipedia really is an MMORPG, and if you want to slay the monsters then you have to actually play the game of AN/I/s, RFCs, ArbComs and such.

If I thought you were capable, I'd suggest trying to maintain a legitimate account and then engage gothean in some form of dispute resolution, get some more outside eyes on whatever the beef is.


I did, but Goethean just stalks me now. AS for as a MMORPG game, F that, The game is about truth and if if Wikipedia operates as a "thugology" then so be it. More proof that Wikipedia is a cesspool.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 1st November 2010, 12:25pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 1st November 2010, 9:43am) *

Seeing how you are an utter failure on both fronts so far, Joe, I don't think either the WMF or gothean has much to worry about.

WMF:

We've never really seen anything of substance from you regarding the WMF...whatever happened with that vague hand-waving about pending lawsuits or the local politicians you're allegedly buddies with?

Gothean:

You're never going to accomplish anything regarding him by doing this lame sock-of-the-day shtick, especially when you're so retardedly obvious, i.e. User:Chicago nights suburban days (T-H-L-K-D)]. In many ways, Wikipedia really is an MMORPG, and if you want to slay the monsters then you have to actually play the game of AN/I/s, RFCs, ArbComs and such.

If I thought you were capable, I'd suggest trying to maintain a legitimate account and then engage gothean in some form of dispute resolution, get some more outside eyes on whatever the beef is.

Goethean went running straight to WP:SPI with the above sock - why, I don't know, as it's painfully obvious who it is. I ran the case anyways - largely so http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGoethean&action=historysubmit&diff=394195771&oldid=393615418 on his http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ben_Lowe&action=history on the Ben Lowe article, and because I've started watching the "Joe and Goathead Show" since it recently came up on here.

It's pretty clear that *both* of them are off the mark here. From the article above, it's clear that Joe wants to remove some apologetics from Ben Lowe's own site that Goethean insists on including. Joe wants to paint the Democrat in a bad light, whereas Goathead will hear nothing bad of the guy, and will be happy to cite the Ben Lowe making excuses for himself (in violation of WP:SPS).

In short; it's like watching two Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots, where two wingnuts beat each other endlessly over the head. The major difference, really, being that Goathead knows how to play the WikiGameâ„¢, but Joe does not bored.gif

Looks like Goathed is thumbing his New Age finger at you http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Goethean&diff=prev&oldid=394211736

But this is nice... this self righteous nut job's arrogance knows no bounds.

"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Goethean&diff=prev&oldid=394211736"

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 1st November 2010, 12:25pm) *

It's pretty clear that *both* of them are off the mark here. From the article above, it's clear that Joe wants to remove some apologetics from Ben Lowe's own site that Goethean insists on including. Joe wants to paint the Democrat in a bad light, whereas Goathead will hear nothing bad of the guy, and will be happy to cite Ben Lowe making excuses for himself (in violation of WP:SPS).




Whats funny is I want the race baiting stuff on the wikipedia site. This will play real well in the 6th. Since Ben Lowe never grew up here (the 6th) he has no idea it a Big fat negative.

Pandering race baiting will not set well with most of the voters of the 6th as it is a sure way to look like an ass to the rank and file voters in the 6th... That's why I (my friends) never tried to hard to get rid of it. I'm delighted its there...

I went up to challenge the more egregious example of SPS as a matter to bait and bring Goathed up to the light and show what he's really about. I'm not as dumb as I look.

Btw, on e Nov3, I fully expect this failed, Non-notable politician bio be removed from wiki.

Addendum: Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ben_Lowe&diff=prev&oldid=394245165 Whats interesting is Goathed's sense of ownership, entitlement of his point of view, with out respecting others. This man is with out ethics and has a "win at all cost, ends justified the means, moral relativistic point of view and hates any one calling to task flaws to his warped and bigoted world view.

This man is out of control and enabled by the little rodents that run Wikipedia.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 1st November 2010, 3:53pm) *

Btw, on e Nov3, I fully expect this failed, Non-notable politician bio be removed from wiki.


Don't hold your breath. I first tried to simply redirect, then send to AfD, several articles for people who are just nominees. No prior notability (state congress, mayors, etc..) at all, but got avalanched by a coalition of partisan hacks propping up their favorite articles and the predicable "keep everything" ARSeholes.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 2nd November 2010, 9:33am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 1st November 2010, 3:53pm) *

Btw, on e Nov3, I fully expect this failed, Non-notable politician bio be removed from wiki.


Don't hold your breath. I first tried to simply redirect, then send to AfD, several articles for people who are just nominees. No prior notability (state congress, mayors, etc..) at all, but got avalanched by a coalition of partisan hacks propping up their favorite articles and the predicable "keep everything" ARSeholes.



I am watching the Bio now. But, understand, I have no respect, for wikipedia and its
ability to administer fairly and with justice.
ARSehle, and partisan hack like your Tarc . You are the typical liberal: condescending, arrogant full of lies and thug bullying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ben_Lowe_%282nd_nomination%29&diff=prev&oldid=397239518, it's not about Joe Hazelton, it's about what right and wrong. Goathead is so juiced up on mubojumbo coolaid, his brain is now a walking zombie.

Posted by: Alison

And http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FBen_Lowe_%282nd_nomination%29&action=historysubmit&diff=398188218&oldid=398174733 to have it kept. Shocked, I am!! laugh.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 21st November 2010, 11:22pm) *

And http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FBen_Lowe_%282nd_nomination%29&action=historysubmit&diff=398188218&oldid=398174733 to have it kept. Shocked, I am!! laugh.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif


Looks like Wiki is Goeathed's personal ashram...

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Sun 21st November 2010, 11:34pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 21st November 2010, 11:22pm) *

And http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FBen_Lowe_%282nd_nomination%29&action=historysubmit&diff=398188218&oldid=398174733 to have it kept. Shocked, I am!! laugh.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif


Looks like Wiki is Goeathed's personal ashram...


Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) appears to be using Wikipedia for his personal ashram... see his
user page, and contribution and article he wildly defends and then consider wikipolicy...

QUOTE

Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion
"WP:SOAP" redirects here. For the Soap Operas WikiProject, see WP:SOAPS.
Policy shortcuts:
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WP:NOTADVOCATE
WP:NOTOPINION
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Wikipedia is not a soapbox, a battleground, or a vehicle for propaganda, advertising and showcasing. This applies to articles, categories, templates, talk page discussions, and user pages. Therefore, content hosted in Wikipedia is not for:

1. Advocacy, propaganda, or recruitment of any kind: commercial, political, religious, or otherwise. Of course, an article can report objectively about such things, as long as an attempt is made to describe the topic from a neutral point of view. You might wish to start a blog or visit a forum if you want to convince people of the merits of your favorite views.[1]
2. Opinion pieces. Although some topics, particularly those concerning current affairs and politics, may stir passions and tempt people to "climb soapboxes" (i.e. passionately advocate their pet point of view), Wikipedia is not the medium for this. Articles must be balanced to put entries, especially for current events, in a reasonable perspective, and represent a neutral point of view. Furthermore, Wikipedia authors should strive to write articles that will not quickly become obsolete. However, Wikipedia's sister project Wikinews allows commentaries on its articles.
3. Scandal mongering, something "heard through the grapevine" or gossip. Articles and content about living people are required to meet an especially high standard, as they may otherwise be libellous or infringe the subjects' right to privacy. Articles should not be written purely to attack the reputation of another person.
4. Self-promotion. It can be tempting to write about yourself or projects in which you have a strong personal involvement. However, do remember that the standards for encyclopedic articles apply to such pages just like any other. This includes the requirement to maintain a neutral point of view, which is difficult when writing about yourself or about projects close to you. Creating overly abundant links and references to autobiographical sources is unacceptable. See Wikipedia:Autobiography, Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest.
5. Advertising. All information about companies and products are written in an objective and unbiased style. Article topics must be third-party verifiable, so articles about very small "garage" or local companies are typically unacceptable. External links to commercial organizations are acceptable if they identify major organizations which are the topic of the article. Wikipedia neither endorses organizations nor runs affiliate programs. See also Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) for guidelines on corporate notability. Those promoting causes or events, or issuing public service announcements, even if noncommercial, should use a forum other than Wikipedia to do so.

Non-disruptive statements of opinion on internal Wikipedia policies and guidelines may be made on user pages, as they are relevant to the current and future operation of the project.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 23rd November 2010, 1:22am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Sun 21st November 2010, 11:34pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 21st November 2010, 11:22pm) *

And http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FBen_Lowe_%282nd_nomination%29&action=historysubmit&diff=398188218&oldid=398174733 to have it kept. Shocked, I am!! laugh.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif


Looks like Wiki is Goeathed's personal ashram...


Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) appears to be using Wikipedia for his personal ashram... see his
user page, and contribution and article he wildly defends and then consider wikipolicy...

QUOTE

Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion
"WP:SOAP" redirects here. For the Soap Operas WikiProject, see WP:SOAPS.
Policy shortcuts:
WP:NOTSOAPBOX
WP:NOTADVOCATE
WP:NOTOPINION
WP:NOTSCANDAL
WP:NOTADVERTISING
WP:PROMOTION
WP:SOAP
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"Bumped and grind" or as the typical Wikipeidiot would say. Troll onward.

PS... I have nominated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gogo_Dodo I think this guy may be a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Baseball_Bugs. Note.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gogo_Dodo

Posted by: victim of censorship

Bump and grind... again...


I'm watching U

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Sun 17th October 2010, 4:57pm) *

=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Goethean&diff=prev&oldid=391310415=
AKA...Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D)
As you know where I live, I know were you live as well, so I have committed to confined my augments with you to this cesspool and Wikpeidia Review so as not to have it spill out in the street and I hope you do the same.

Make no mistake, I have ABSOLUTELY no respect for your beliefs and methods of intellectual thuggery, bullying... You're a little man, pathetic and cowardly - intellectual, spiritual, and morally corrupt...your shameful ways of gaming Wikirulez, and other equally low games, in order to foist your rotten and flawed point of view, is reflective of your ethics I have seen on wikipeidia for years now. What is sad is no one calls you to task, with out getting wacked by your admin friends.

Now if you like to hide here, fine, but I make you a challenge, assuming you are brave enough and so sure of your beliefs, to crawl out from this dark and dank hiding place and on to Wikireview (a venue where you can't call an admin with tools, where you have to stand toe to toe on the merit of your augments and defend your sorry self, to the charges I make there, that your new age beliefs are garbage, and Ramakrishna's is just power mad homo erotic addict and your a sorry little thuggish boor.

Again, if you should MAN UP instead of being a coward, then I await your presence at Wikipedia Review so you can tell me and the, world at large, why your so right and the world is so wrong. MAN UP or hid like the weak bully boy you are.???

Any rate I be waiting for you there.

JoE

Addendum:
Looks like Goathed is crying to his little owl face turkey.. ...Tiptoety (T-C-L-K-R-D) ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tiptoety&diff=prev&oldid=391314076

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:76.202.241.182&diff=prev&oldid=391319049




Looks like Goethean is stalking and trying to hurt people/ business with his slander... http://www.dexknows.com/business_profiles/aurora_tallow_inc-b177682/reviews

Why would this guy bother with this business, unless Goethean is making more friends on the internet?

Posted by: Zoloft

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 31st August 2011, 1:44pm) *
Looks like Goethean is stalking and trying to hurt people/ business with his slander... http://www.dexknows.com/business_profiles/aurora_tallow_inc-b177682/reviews

Why would this guy bother with this business, unless Goethean is making more friends on the internet?

If you want to flag this, I'd use this http://www.dexknows.com/info/contactUs.asp and complain there. Come off as a potential advertiser, paste in the same link, and I bet it's gone in a day or two.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Sun 17th October 2010, 3:57pm) *

=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Goethean&diff=prev&oldid=391310415=
AKA...Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D)
As you know where I live, I know were you live as well, so I have committed to confined my augments with you to this cesspool and Wikpeidia Review so as not to have it spill out in the street and I hope you do the same.

Make no mistake, I have ABSOLUTELY no respect for your beliefs and methods of intellectual thuggery, bullying... You're a little man, pathetic and cowardly - intellectual, spiritual, and morally corrupt...your shameful ways of gaming Wikirulez, and other equally low games, in order to foist your rotten and flawed point of view, is reflective of your ethics I have seen on wikipeidia for years now. What is sad is no one calls you to task, with out getting wacked by your admin friends.

Now if you like to hide here, fine, but I make you a challenge, assuming you are brave enough and so sure of your beliefs, to crawl out from this dark and dank hiding place and on to Wikireview (a venue where you can't call an admin with tools, where you have to stand toe to toe on the merit of your augments and defend your sorry self, to the charges I make there, that your new age beliefs are garbage, and Ramakrishna's is just power mad homo erotic addict and your a sorry little thuggish boor.

Bounce it up the ladder...
Again, if you should MAN UP instead of being a coward, then I await your presence at Wikipedia Review so you can tell me and the, world at large, why your so right and the world is so wrong. MAN UP or hid like the weak bully boy you are.???

Any rate I be waiting for you there.

JoE

Addendum:
Looks like Goathed is crying to his little owl face turkey.. ...Tiptoety (T-C-L-K-R-D) ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tiptoety&diff=prev&oldid=391314076

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:76.202.241.182&diff=prev&oldid=391319049


Posted by: victim of censorship

Just making sure this thread never dies, as Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) lays his shit down in wikipeidia, unimpeded by the the shitheads that run it...