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The "old" SlimVirgin is back. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/popcorn.gif)

Gone is the chastened, relatively civil, law-abiding SV. Over the past days, she has unleashed a torrential flood of edits on a subject dear to her heart, Lyndon LaRouche (T-H-L-K-D). Her rich palette of POV editing tactics, including intimidation and confusing and misleading edit summaries, is in play (for example, when adding some guy to the lead that says LaRouche is a fascist, her edit summary is "some tidying.") And, she has renewed her tag-team vows with Will Beback. They are so sweet when proclaiming that the two of them have together found "consensus." Was it good for you?
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It is probably also worth noting that the talk page for LaRouche is infrequently viewed at 318 times in July and 1,405 times in August compared to 4,662 times for my talk page. The talk page has only 3,492 edits, which isn't even enough to make the most edited talk page list. All of which seems on par for an article 3,071 hits a day (not even in the top 3,000 for for the site).
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QUOTE(MBisanz @ Wed 2nd September 2009, 10:54pm) *

It is probably also worth noting that the talk page for LaRouche is infrequently viewed at 318 times in July and 1,405 times in August compared to 4,662 times for my talk page. The talk page has only 3,492 edits, which isn't even enough to make the most edited talk page list. All of which seems on par for an article 3,071 hits a day (not even in the top 3,000 for for the site).

Only 127 for my talk page. Makes me feel so ronery.

Anyway that's just the main biography article. I don't suppose you could get a total figure for all articles/talk-pages related to LaRouche and the LaRouche "movement"?

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See that's the problem: for some people who prefer to keep importance in perspective, the articles on LaRouche should be short and pitiful compared to articles on people who make a real difference.

Yeah it's almost as if we need to actively recruit a bunch of boring, normal people to work on those articles. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)
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QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 3rd September 2009, 8:09am) *

QUOTE(Shalom @ Thu 3rd September 2009, 3:43am) *

See that's the problem: for some people who prefer to keep importance in perspective, the articles on LaRouche should be short and pitiful compared to articles on people who make a real difference.

Yeah it's almost as if we need to actively recruit a bunch of boring, normal people to work on those articles. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)
Yes, that's an admirable suggestion, except that they would just become shark-bait for Will Beback and SlimVirgin. Just ask Everyking.
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QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 3rd September 2009, 8:09am) *

QUOTE(Shalom @ Thu 3rd September 2009, 3:43am) *

See that's the problem: for some people who prefer to keep importance in perspective, the articles on LaRouche should be short and pitiful compared to articles on people who make a real difference.

Yeah it's almost as if we need to actively recruit a bunch of boring, normal people to work on those articles. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)
I would say that Leatherstocking (T-C-L-K-R-D) initially fit that description, but at this point he has become so annoyed at Will Beback and Virginia Slim that he is, if not a pro-LaRouche editor, at least an anti-anti-LaRouche editor.

Meanwhile, there is an interesting newcomer: Jayen466 (T-C-L-K-R-D) , who seems scrupulously neutral and willing to wade through the complicated issues at the LaRouche articles. I think he is really starting to piss Will off, but he is totally civil and can't be accused of taking a side. Is Jayen466 on anyone's rader screen hereabouts?
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Fri 25th September 2009, 8:10am) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 3rd September 2009, 8:09am) *

QUOTE(Shalom @ Thu 3rd September 2009, 3:43am) *

See that's the problem: for some people who prefer to keep importance in perspective, the articles on LaRouche should be short and pitiful compared to articles on people who make a real difference.

Yeah it's almost as if we need to actively recruit a bunch of boring, normal people to work on those articles. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)
I would say that Leatherstocking (T-C-L-K-R-D) initially fit that description, but at this point he has become so annoyed at Will Beback and Virginia Slim that he is, if not a pro-LaRouche editor, at least an anti-anti-LaRouche editor.

Meanwhile, there is an interesting newcomer: Jayen466 (T-C-L-K-R-D) , who seems scrupulously neutral and willing to wade through the complicated issues at the LaRouche articles. I think he is really starting to piss Will off, but he is totally civil and can't be accused of taking a side. Is Jayen466 on anyone's rader screen hereabouts?

Name rings a bell, don't remember why.
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QUOTE(MBisanz @ Fri 25th September 2009, 12:49pm) *

QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Fri 25th September 2009, 8:10am) *

Meanwhile, there is an interesting newcomer: Jayen466 (T-C-L-K-R-D) , who seems scrupulously neutral and willing to wade through the complicated issues at the LaRouche articles. I think he is really starting to piss Will off, but he is totally civil and can't be accused of taking a side. Is Jayen466 on anyone's rader screen hereabouts?

Name rings a bell, don't remember why.

Maybe you figured it sounds much like User:Jayron32.
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Herschelkrustofsky   Slim and Will put the smackdown on LaRouche  
Cedric   The "old" SlimVirgin is back. :popcorn:...  
Shalom   The "old" SlimVirgin is back. :popcorn:...  
CharlotteWebb   To be brutally honest, without Wikipedia I would ...  
Krimpet   Word. I first heard of him by reading an old arbc...  
everyking   Word. I first heard of him by reading an old arb...  
Shalom   [quote name='Krimpet' post='192526' date='Wed 2nd...  
dtobias   See that's the problem: for some people who p...  
Shalom   See that's the problem: for some people who ...  
Moulton   Yes, someone wrote on the web that the Britney Spe...  
Lar   Yes, someone wrote on the web that the Britney Sp...  
thekohser   [quote name='Shalom' post='192588' date='Thu 3rd ...  
EricBarbour   See that's the problem: for some people who pr...  
MBisanz   The 15 most edited article talk pages are: 1. Ta...  
tarantino   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='196028' da...  
MBisanz   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='196028' d...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Jayen is a follower of Shree Rajneesh and likely ...  
Eva Destruction   Should be interesting.  
written by he who wrote it   The "old" SlimVirgin is back. :popcorn:...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='192448' da...  
Cla68   The "old" SlimVirgin is back. :popcorn:...  
Casliber   Some unusual topics get quite a going over - for ...  
Casliber   Also the Liopleurodon talk page - should the appea...  
thekohser   Now, this is how I'd do an [b][color=#009900]a...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Leatherstocking is indignantly protesting her big ...  
Cla68   Leatherstocking is indignantly protesting her big...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Leatherstocking should just make a request for cl...  
It's the blimp, Frank   It's now at the ANI forum. I think that Leathe...  
gomi   It's now [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi...  
Cla68   [quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='193...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Ahem, Lar did [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/inde...  
Cedric   [quote name='Cla68' post='193038' date='Mon 7th S...  
gomi   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='193052' dat...  
Cedric   The exchange was funny enough I think it should b...  
Achromatic   Slim's shrill response on Lar's talk page...  
everyking   Slim's shrill response on Lar's talk pag...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Why must everything be interpreted as some kind o...  
Achromatic   Emphasis mine. This, ladies and gentleman, would...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='Achromatic' post='193267' date='Wed ...  
TungstenCarbide   There's much about SV that could be fixed with...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Ahem, Lar did [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/inde...  
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Cla68   I think it's interesting that Georgewiliamher...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Will Beback needs to realize that trying to tar a...  
Cla68   I thought that it was ok to use primary sources fo...  
Herschelkrustofsky   I hope any arbitrators reading this will take Lea...  
CharlotteWebb   If Leatherstocking hasn't been banned by next...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Why do you suppose SV said that she was "writ...  
Cla68   Why do you suppose SV said that she was "wri...  
Kelly Martin   Why do you suppose SV said that she was "writ...  
Cla68   Leatherstocking, in a couple of days, should go ah...  
TungstenCarbide   Leatherstocking, in a couple of days, should go a...  
Cla68   [quote name='Cla68' post='194413' date='Wed 16th ...  
It's the blimp, Frank   [quote name='Cla68' post='194413' date='Wed 16th ...  
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MBisanz   Notice that no uninvolved editors have commented ...  
Heat   Notice that no uninvolved editors have commented...  
The Joy   [quote name='MBisanz' post='194578' date='Wed 16t...  
TungstenCarbide   [quote name='MBisanz' post='194578' date='Wed 16t...  
Herschelkrustofsky   BTW, is misspelling "mess" as "met...  
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MBisanz   Why do you suppose SV said that she was "wri...  
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MBisanz   I saw my first ever LaRouchie today in real life. ...  
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Lar   I did immediately assume he was HK, as 99% of p...  
Cla68   I saw my first ever LaRouchie today in real life....  
MBisanz   [quote name='MBisanz' post='193838' date='Sat 12t...  
Malleus   Apparently you have never had Cosi's tomato ba...  
tarantino   That picture demonstrates quite well the problem ...  
MBisanz   [quote name='MBisanz' post='193906' date='Sun 13t...  
TungstenCarbide   That picture demonstrates quite well the problem t...  
Milton Roe   That picture demonstrates quite well the problem ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   It looks like the arbs are addressing themselves e...  
TungstenCarbide   It looks like the arbs are addressing themselves ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   How does the procedure work? For example, we now h...  
Herschelkrustofsky   :)  
Herschelkrustofsky   Carcharoth has added his comments to the arbcom re...  
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Appleby   Just because SlimVirgin owns an article doesn...  
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Achromatic   Uh oh. No-one told me we were not meant to be disc...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Will Slim 'n' Will play the BADSITES card?...  
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Cla68   JoshuaZ in particular thinks the way to win points...  
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Random832   LaRouche's contribution to the debate is the [...  
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Random832   I'm not sure what other "democrats = nazi...  
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The Joy   Could Leatherstocking be allowed to continue editi...  
Cla68   Could Leatherstocking be allowed to continue edit...  
It's the blimp, Frank   I'm waiting to see what happens when LaRouche...  
dogbiscuit   I'm waiting to see what happens when LaRouch...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='201...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='Cla68' post='198827' date='Fri 9th O...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Leatherstocking makes an effort to [url=http://e...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='Cla68' post='198827' date='Fri 9th O...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='Cla68' post='198827' date='Fri 9th ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Well, how can she verify them if she can't re...  
Herschelkrustofsky   After some initial comments by uninvolved editors ...  
Achromatic   Will Beback has made the observation that "cl...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Apparently, such factors that Will encourages the...  
EricBarbour   Now the Duggan article is (presto!) called ...  
Kelly Martin   Now the Duggan article is (presto!) called ...  
Achromatic   Now the Duggan article is (presto!) called ...  
It's the blimp, Frank   I see that the request for arbcom clarification ha...  
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Achromatic   Could someone who undertstands the Arbcom explain...  
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Cla68   And it turns out that the [url=http://en.wikipedi...  
Cla68   And, Leatherstocking was just [url=http://en.wiki...  
Hell Freezes Over   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='201844' da...  
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Hell Freezes Over   Well, for one thing, why have you and Will been ...  
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