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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Mon 14th July 2008, 2:13pm) Don't neglect its parent page, WP:WIKISPEAK... (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Thanks. QUOTE bureaucrat n. An administrator so bland that they haven't managed to upset anyone. See red tape. Some of these are worthy of The Devil's Dictionary: "Uninvolved administrator; see Involved administrator" (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 15th July 2008, 11:38am) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Mon 14th July 2008, 6:13pm) Don't neglect its parent page, WP:WIKISPEAK... spam Any article about a company or product you've never heard of. These articles can be dealt with in one of three ways: - If the article is unreferenced, it can be safely deleted as nobody will bother to check how important it is.
- If the article is referenced, it can be safely deleted and the author blocked for adding external links.
- If the article is referenced and well-written but you've either never heard of, or don't like, the author, it can be deleted and the author tagged as suspected sockpuppet of Wikipedia Review or Runcorn.
Iridescent is a big fan of yours, it seems (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE(Giggy @ Mon 14th July 2008, 9:48pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 15th July 2008, 11:38am) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Mon 14th July 2008, 6:13pm) Don't neglect its parent page, WP:WIKISPEAK... spam Any article about a company or product you've never heard of. These articles can be dealt with in one of three ways: - If the article is unreferenced, it can be safely deleted as nobody will bother to check how important it is.
- If the article is referenced, it can be safely deleted and the author blocked for adding external links.
- If the article is referenced and well-written but you've either never heard of, or don't like, the author, it can be deleted and the author tagged as suspected sockpuppet of Wikipedia Review or Runcorn.
Iridescent is a big fan of yours, it seems (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif) "referenced and well-written"... if that's my Wikipedia legacy, I'm happy.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 14th July 2008, 10:38pm) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Mon 14th July 2008, 2:13pm) Don't neglect its parent page, WP:WIKISPEAK... (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Thanks. QUOTE bureaucrat n. An administrator so bland that they haven't managed to upset anyone. See red tape. Some of these are worthy of The Devil's Dictionary: "Uninvolved administrator; see Involved administrator" (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) I have a copy of the Devil's Dictionary somewhere in my book pile. I should pull it out and start adding quotes from it to the top of my userpage or to my signature here. Anyway, this list is funny and some of the guide points are spot on.
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Tue 15th July 2008, 3:45pm) QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 14th July 2008, 10:38pm) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Mon 14th July 2008, 2:13pm) Don't neglect its parent page, WP:WIKISPEAK... (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Thanks. QUOTE bureaucrat n. An administrator so bland that they haven't managed to upset anyone. See red tape. Some of these are worthy of The Devil's Dictionary: "Uninvolved administrator; see Involved administrator" (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) I have a copy of the Devil's Dictionary somewhere in my book pile. I should pull it out and start adding quotes from it to the top of my userpage or to my signature here. Anyway, this list is funny and some of the guide points are spot on. I hope you're on the lookout for a "Oppose, too quick to be involved in drama." (#21) next time you're up for RfA. I just wonder if anyone will pull a "Support per clean talkpage/block log/contribs/" (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE(Alex @ Tue 15th July 2008, 11:01am) This page shows precisely what a joke RfA is. Why can't it just be a straight vote, with no comments? It would certainly remove a lot of the nastiness.
Because then, A would vote "oppose" on B's RFA, but without giving an explanation B would then come to A's talkpage to ask why, thus spreading the incoherent ramblings across multiple pages; at least this way it keeps all the bitching and backstabbing on a single page which is auto-archived after five days. I could make a case for a secret ballot of established editors (along the lines of the WMF election), although I suspect you'd get a lot of "opposes" for really lame reasons. At least forcing people to explain their actions prevents the cabal of 12 year olds, for instance, from blatantly block-voting their buddies through. The RFA process is undoubtedly a mess – lest we forget, it used to look like this – but nobody seems able to come up with a viable alternative. (I don't include "splitting the tools" as a viable alternative; even splitting off the relatively uncontroversial rollback function has caused huge amounts of idiocy and huge chunks of valid material "accidentaly" reverted. Once you get to the "high power" core admin functions, I can't imagine any grounds when I'd trust someone to block users but not to delete articles, for instance, so we'd still need an approval process for protect/block/delete.) This post has been edited by Eva Destruction:
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QUOTE(guy @ Tue 15th July 2008, 1:06pm) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Tue 15th July 2008, 12:24pm) The RFA process is undoubtedly a mess – lest we forget, it used to look like thisAh yes, much more civilised then. It's still like that on some of the minor wikis. It's amusing looking over those old admins and noting "Hey, there's Stevertigo, who got desysoped in a rather ugly way"; "Ah, RickK, the sockpuppeting sysop" (it's been conclusively proven now that Zoe and RickK are the same person, although the proof is not widely known); and of course Alex756, aka Alex Roshuk, who is well-known for leaving Wikipedia in a huff when Jimmy & Co. dememberized the Foundation.
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 15th July 2008, 3:24pm) QUOTE(guy @ Tue 15th July 2008, 1:06pm) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Tue 15th July 2008, 12:24pm) The RFA process is undoubtedly a mess – lest we forget, it used to look like thisAh yes, much more civilised then. It's still like that on some of the minor wikis. It's amusing looking over those old admins and noting "Hey, there's Stevertigo, who got desysoped in a rather ugly way"; "Ah, RickK, the sockpuppeting sysop" (it's been conclusively proven now that Zoe and RickK are the same person, although the proof is not widely known); and of course Alex756, aka Alex Roshuk, who is well-known for leaving Wikipedia in a huff when Jimmy & Co. dememberized the Foundation. RickK, as in " Poster boy of the automated tools brigade" RickK? This post has been edited by Eva Destruction:
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 15th July 2008, 8:06am) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Tue 15th July 2008, 2:35pm) That's the one. Also known as User:Zoe. We long suspected that Zoe and RickK were one and the same, but had no proof, until recently. It's a moot point as Zoe hasn't edited since February 2007. If Rick is still around, he's editing under some other account that is, as of yet, not known to anyone other than him. Seriously? RickK was Zoe? How as this proof obtained? Did he admit to it, or what?
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