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From "Yet another ageism thread": http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...r_ageism_thread

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The point of this thread is to attempt to put a stop to opposes based on false information, especially when the person making the false comment refuses to budge. Majorly talk 20:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


Of course, nobody listened. All anyone wanted to talk about was ageism, not whether it's okay to oppose someone based on a false statement.

Well then, Majorly, don't you think Iridescent's oppose on me was based on false information? Why didn't you protest then? Why did the whole admin community not protest then? Why did everyone smile and nod as Iridescent slandered me -- and continued to do so later by falsely alleging on her talk page that I had engaged in "campaigns of harassment" against "real life" individuals?

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The best part was Shalom's RFC demanding an apology from all of Wikipedia
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QUOTE(Apathetic @ Thu 26th March 2009, 3:51pm) *

The best part was Shalom's RFC demanding an apology from all of Wikipedia

I demanded an apology from those individuals who made false statements about me. Those were a small number of individuals. I asked for forgiveness from all of Wikipedia. I didn't receive it.

I'm willing to commit reputation suicide if I can kill Iridescent in the process. Nothing else I've tried has done any good. I tried legitimate dispute resolution. Fail. I tried talking with her on her talkpage. Fail. I tried again. Fail. I tried personally attacking her. Fail. I tried vandalizing her editnotice. Success for 13 hours, but ultimately, fail. I tried bringing it up on Wikipedia Review. Fail.

That's the story of my life right there. Fail.

I would be tempted to challenge Cool Hand Luke's confusing statement about how I linked to an attack site, except that it happens to be true. One of the ways I set up the Googlebomb was by creating a site on Yahoo Geocities with the fellow's name, photo and a hyperlink with the requisite anchor text. I removed that site a few months after I created it. I don't remember whether this was before or after I published the Googlebomb to friends. It was definitely before anything became known on Wikipedia.

I think I may as well just finish the self destruction and list all my sockpuppets for the world to see. If I really can't lose any more credibility in your eyes, CHL, I have nothing to lose. It would not be to clear my conscience, just a pure act of stupidity. But if that's what you want, that's what you might get. Then y'all can ban me from Wikipedia (including my current sock) and make it official.

CHL contends that Googlebombing public figures is not harassment but for private figures it is. However, in the case of public figures the Googlebomb itself becomes public, whereas in my case I told only a few friends, and again, the subject of the attack never became aware and was never adversely affected.

It's a frickin' shame that of all my hard work, this is what gets remembered. Yes, I chose to make a point of it. But really, there's no defense for what she said about me. I always trust Sarcasticidealist, and I know he's saying sense, but I still can't see it. I can't see how alleging harassment is okay. I can't see how all the other lies she said about me were okay. Call them half-truths or exaggerations, whatever, they're still not true. That Iridescent didn't substantively harm my reputation more than I did to myself, she said in her defense and I sense others agree. I just wish I hadn't screwed up my wiki career from the very beginning. Take away those early edits and start in July 2006 instead, and I'm an admin, possibly retired by now, or anyway in good standing. Instead I fucked up. There's nowhere to go from here but down.

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QUOTE(Malleus @ Thu 26th March 2009, 7:45pm) *
Speaking of dicks, Laralove was kind enough to include me in the valedictory posting she made on her talk page, saying "You're a dick of porn star proportions ...". I like to think that was a typo, and that what she meant to write was "You've ...". Robust self-esteem or hopeless fantasy? You decide. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)
Why not both? In my opinion, there's not enough rudeness in Wikipedia based on "trouser-snake" references. Every male Wikipedian should, at one time or another, have comments made regarding their "meat-and-two-veg" in drama situations. The project should become known as the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit and have their "love truncheons" talked about. I'll stop now.

QUOTE(Shalom @ Fri 27th March 2009, 12:24am) *
I'm willing to commit reputation suicide if I can kill Iridescent in the process.
Christ on a stick! You're starting to give me The Fear, Shalser!

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]That's the story of my life right there. Fail.
It's certainly beginning to look that way, Sh. But if you think about it - real hard - it's an achievement of sorts, isn't it? So it's not all doom and gloom.
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