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From "Yet another ageism thread": http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...r_ageism_thread

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The point of this thread is to attempt to put a stop to opposes based on false information, especially when the person making the false comment refuses to budge. Majorly talk 20:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


Of course, nobody listened. All anyone wanted to talk about was ageism, not whether it's okay to oppose someone based on a false statement.

Well then, Majorly, don't you think Iridescent's oppose on me was based on false information? Why didn't you protest then? Why did the whole admin community not protest then? Why did everyone smile and nod as Iridescent slandered me -- and continued to do so later by falsely alleging on her talk page that I had engaged in "campaigns of harassment" against "real life" individuals?

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QUOTE(Malleus @ Thu 26th March 2009, 3:45pm) *

Speaking of dicks, Laralove was kind enough to include me in the valedictory posting she made on her talk page, saying "You're a dick of porn star proportions ...". I like to think that was a typo, and that what she meant to write was "You've ...". Robust self-esteem or hopeless fantasy? You decide. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)
Hey now... that was no typo! Just because we're dating doesn't mean I'm putting out, so your insinuations that I would even know... naughty, naughty. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Shalom @ Thu 26th March 2009, 8:24pm) *

I'm willing to commit reputation suicide if I can kill Iridescent in the process. Nothing else I've tried has done any good. I tried legitimate dispute resolution. Fail. I tried talking with her on her talkpage. Fail. I tried again. Fail. I tried personally attacking her. Fail. I tried vandalizing her editnotice. Success for 13 hours, but ultimately, fail. I tried bringing it up on Wikipedia Review. Fail.
The fact that you resorted to personal attacks and vandalism (again), in my eyes, pretty much justifies her oppose comments. To be honest, I don't think you had a snowball's chance in Hell of passing RFA with or without Iridescent's comments, but either way, if this is how you react over her comments, how on Earth would you act in response to the shit admins have to put up with? From those who keep the "end justifies the means" mentality, you get no sympathy. And I do hope that by "kill Iridescent", you mean her wiki-career. That's how I took it, and I think you should give up because it's not possible. You've already committed reputation suicide. You tried to bring yourself back from the dead but, well, that was fail.

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That's the story of my life right there. Fail.
I think this is where there's a clear indication that this whole things ranks way too high on your priority list. Just a website, dude.

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I think I may as well just finish the self destruction and list all my sockpuppets for the world to see. If I really can't lose any more credibility in your eyes, CHL, I have nothing to lose.
I'm not sure you could lose anymore credibility in anyone's eyes. List 'em out. Let's see how prolific you've been.

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It's a frickin' shame that of all my hard work, this is what gets remembered. Yes, I chose to make a point of it. But really, there's no defense for what she said about me. <snip> I just wish I hadn't screwed up my wiki career from the very beginning. Take away those early edits and start in July 2006 instead, and I'm an admin, possibly retired by now, or anyway in good standing. Instead I fucked up. There's nowhere to go from here but down.
At least you appear to be taking most of the responsibility for your downfall, though it seems a bit too easy for you to judge Iridescent's comments as indefensible considering everything you've done.
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I'll take a pass on your "end justifies the means" comment. I disagree but I don't expect to convince you that you are wrong. There are enough bad things I really did do so that nobody needs to fabricate defamatory lies of things I didn't do. As I said on the infamous self-RFC: "I understand if people oppose me for things I actually did. I don't understand why it's okay to oppose me for things I didn't do."
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QUOTE(Shalom @ Thu 26th March 2009, 8:24pm) *

I think I may as well just finish the self destruction and list all my sockpuppets for the world to see. If I really can't lose any more credibility in your eyes, CHL, I have nothing to lose.
I'm not sure you could lose anymore credibility in anyone's eyes. List 'em out. Let's see how prolific you've been.

Okay, I'll start back in April 2007. On my last RFA I really did list every single sockpuppet and almost every IP address I had used up to that time. It's not possible to find every last IP address, but I've remembered which articles I edited, so I could track down the large majority of them.

My first edit that I can recall making was http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&oldid=21828568 to "Chess problem terminology" on 25 November 2005. I wrote:

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Battery - a pair of pieces, where the front piece moves away to discover an attack from the back piece. For example, if a White knight stands between a White rook and the Black king, moving the knight - that is, "firing" the battery - leads to check.

Three and a half years later, the content still stands. My first logged in edit, to ChessGames.com, occurred two days later: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&oldid=29405127 It was far from perfect, and I would never make an edit like that nowadays, but most of its content was useful at the time. The article was deleted in November 2007 and rewritten almost from scratch in someone's userspace, then restored in December.

Curiously, the [[Battery (chess)]] article uses the over-the-board definition of "battery", which differs from the problemist's definition. Maybe I'll update that article.

Going back to my original point, the one IP address I deliberately did not bother to track down for the purpose of my RFA was the one I used to make the following edit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=130469943

The edit summary refers to the words atop the Auschwitz concentration camp entrance. The article was the university I was attending at that time.

The wikisuicide has begun, folks.

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