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Can anyone recommend any sites that show step by step how to set up your own wiki encyclopaedia?
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you do know about Encyc.org, right?!
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QUOTE(wikademia.org @ Fri 8th January 2010, 4:28pm) *

you do know about Encyc.org, right?!


I don't think Encyc.org will challenge wikipedia anytime soon. All their articles are basically one to two sentence stubs.
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QUOTE(WikiWatch @ Fri 8th January 2010, 4:14am) *

I don't think Encyc.org will challenge wikipedia anytime soon. All their articles are basically one to two sentence stubs.


WikiWatch, who are you? (If you're disclosing.)

What are you trying to accomplish? Trying to challenge Wikipedia with an alternate venue? Do you have at least $1,000,000? Because those are the bare minimum table stakes to create a site that will get into the Alexa 1000.

What is your unique proposition that will make your site a challenge to Wikipedia?

On my site, I dreamed optimistically that editors' "ownership" of articles about yourself or your business, plus transitory ownership of articles about other legal entities, coupled with the ability to earn AdSense revenues (keeping 100% of them for themselves), topped off with the wonders of Semantic Web architecture for search engine optimization and internal multi-layered search capabilities, would have me at 3% of Wikipedia's market share within two years.

Well, after two years, my site earns 0.000856% of the English Wikipedia's page traffic, as the 37,789th most visited site on the Internet, among Americans.

Although (according to Alexa), my site has a wider global reach than the web home of the Brazilian government (brasil.gov.br), as well as the home page of the 10th largest company in America (Valero.com).

So, while you're pooh-poohing Encyc.org, let me just say that your asking how to install wiki software suggests to me that you likewise don't have what it takes to "challenge Wikipedia anytime soon".

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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 8th January 2010, 3:14pm) *

Well, after two years, my site earns 0.000856% of the English Wikipedia's page traffic, as the 37,789th most visited site on the Internet, among Americans.


Ha, did you know you're more popular than Citizendium?
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QUOTE(anthony @ Sat 13th March 2010, 7:28pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 8th January 2010, 3:14pm) *

Well, after two years, my site earns 0.000856% of the English Wikipedia's page traffic, as the 37,789th most visited site on the Internet, among Americans.


Ha, did you know you're more popular than Citizendium?


In the United States, and according to Alexa... wow, I guess that's true.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 14th March 2010, 4:02am) *

QUOTE(anthony @ Sat 13th March 2010, 7:28pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 8th January 2010, 3:14pm) *

Well, after two years, my site earns 0.000856% of the English Wikipedia's page traffic, as the 37,789th most visited site on the Internet, among Americans.


Ha, did you know you're more popular than Citizendium?


In the United States, and according to Alexa... wow, I guess that's true.

You're still behind Boobpedia in both the worldwide and US traffic rankings, though.
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Emperor,

Your Wiki seems to suffer from some of the same ills as Wikipedia: dweeb admins like Nathan running around pushing buttons willy nilly.

It also appears to be an experiment in social media rather than an earnest attempt at encyclopedia building...?

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QUOTE(DawnofMan @ Sun 14th March 2010, 7:07pm) *

Emperor,

Your Wiki seems to suffer from some of the same ills as Wikipedia: dweeb admins like Nathan running around pushing buttons willy nilly.

It also appear to be an experiment in social media rather than an earnest attempt at encyclopedia building?


Nathan used to be a moderator here on Wikipedia Review. He's also a great administrator, and has donated significant amounts of time towards making Encyc a better place.

If your referring to his block and then unblock of ChildofMidnight, it looks like they're talking it out.
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Emperor,

Your Wiki seems to suffer from some of the same ills as Wikipedia: dweeb admins like Nathan running around pushing buttons willy nilly.

It also appear to be an experiment in social media rather than an earnest attempt at encyclopedia building?


Nathan used to be a moderator here on Wikipedia Review. He's also a great administrator, and has donated significant amounts of time towards making Encyc a better place.

If your referring to his block and then unblock of ChildofMidnight, it looks like they're talking it out.


If your idea of a great admin is someone who blocks a new editor without any explanation or discussion and then improperly reverts a series of constructive changes, all I can say is: it's not too surprising that your Wiki isn't exactly prospering. I don't see any evidence that Nathan has made an effort to "talk out" anything. He certainly hasn't attempted to make an apology for behaving like a boob.

I do see that you're aware of the situation and have chosen to offer the proverbial tea instead of attempting to engage in adult communication or explanation. Perhaps respectful discussion among colleagues is too much to ask in this internet age? I'm not seeing any effort at real change, just more of the same. Why create a mirror Wikipedia?

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QUOTE(DawnofMan @ Sun 14th March 2010, 9:01pm) *

If your idea of a great admin is someone who blocks a new editor without any explanation or discussion and then improperly reverts a series of constructive changes, all I can say is: it's not too surprising that your Wiki isn't exactly prospering. I don't see any evidence that Nathan has made an effort to "talk out" anything. He certainly hasn't attempted to make an apology for behaving like a boob.

I do see that you're aware of the situation and have chosen to offer the proverbial tea instead of attempting to engage in adult communication or explanation. Perhaps respectful discussion among colleagues is too much to ask in this internet age? I'm not seeing any effort at real change, just more of the same. Why create a mirror Wikipedia?


Like I said on Encyc, I have some sympathy for your situation. I'm sure that Wikipedia kicked you around some. I think that you could be a good editor somewhere, and I hope that it works out. If not, I wish you the best of luck wherever you wind up.
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I would like to thank Dan Tobias, Gregory Kohs, and Emperor for their advice. You guys will be mentioned on my credits page. My encyclopædia using mediawiki is up and running. Without any technical help, it wasn't as difficult as I first thought. The hardest part was finding a decent name - most of the good encyclopædia names were already taken long ago. I won't be making an announcement on its address until after I complete testing and upload some articles. Thanks everyone.


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Looks like Encyc has been swamped with vandals:

http://encyc.org/w/index.php?title=Special...anges&limit=500

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wikademia.org   sure! great question! http://www.mediaw...  
WikiWatch   you do know about Encyc.org, right?! Yes, t...  
Emperor   [quote name='wikademia.org' post='214331' date='F...  
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DawnofMan   Would someone just hurry up and create an alternat...  
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