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Jon Awbrey
post Thu 28th October 2010, 2:04am
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 27th October 2010, 9:15pm) *

QUOTE(jayvdb @ Wed 27th October 2010, 9:03pm) *

It appears that she was willingly interviewed by the CNN reporter. It is obvious that she was not a willing focus of your piece.


If that's the new standard for media inclusion, then I'm sure folks like Tony Hayward will appreciate that. After all, he just wanted to return home and get his life back.

Now that the WMF and all its staff are apparently instructed not to engage me, I guess that means (by the Jayvdb Rule) I am disallowed from writing about any of them, ever. I suppose I'll go ask Examiner to shut down my account.


Not so fast, Buster !!!

Not until we get our jollies dragging you through 14 or 15 AfD proceedings …

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post Thu 28th October 2010, 12:50pm
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Moulton's media ethicist colleague has weighed in (on Barry's Facebook page), and the ruling is...

IT WAS A HATCHET JOB!

Therefore, a new version of the article is now published on Examiner!

Now, the ethical question is... what to do with all the comments that referenced the old version of the article?

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post Thu 28th October 2010, 2:18pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 28th October 2010, 5:50am) *

Moulton's media ethicist colleague has weighed in (on Barry's Facebook page), and the ruling is...

IT WAS A HATCHET JOB!

Therefore, a new version of the article is now published on Examiner!

Now, the ethical question is... what to do with all the comments that referenced the old version of the article?

If it was my article, I'd can the comments and close commenting. You modified the article heavily in response to the comments, so they are now commenting on something that's not there any more. You noted that in the story, so you're done. Move on to your next scoop.

If there's any consolation, at least you are being compared to Sherlock Holmes (albeit in a blog post that quotes him as a 'high-functioning sociopath').

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post Thu 28th October 2010, 2:51pm
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I've deleted the comments and replies that focused criticism on the original article, but I am not one to "close comments" on an article. Examiner's comment monitoring application is nice, in that I can see the most recent comment left on any of my articles, regardless of when it was published. So, if the tone gets nasty again on this article (or any), I will still see it, even if it's months down the road.
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post Thu 28th October 2010, 5:48pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 28th October 2010, 7:51am) *

I've deleted the comments and replies that focused criticism on the original article, but I am not one to "close comments" on an article. Examiner's comment monitoring application is nice, in that I can see the most recent comment left on any of my articles, regardless of when it was published. So, if the tone gets nasty again on this article (or any), I will still see it, even if it's months down the road.

This is why you're not a troll. Trolls don't have ethics, or listen to critics. Trolls never admit to error of any sort.

Ottava, take note of the difference.
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post Thu 28th October 2010, 7:16pm
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It's curious, because when I published the original piece about Moellenberndt, I had a gut feeling that I had gone too far in casting her in a bad light. Based on my subsequent readings of her LiveJournal blog, I feel quite strongly that she is a particularly bad choice for working with the Wikimedia "community" as we see it, but there wasn't a need to turn that personal opinion into a news piece.

I do apologize for my actions to those I hurt or offended.

I continue to believe that Philippe Beaudette is ill-suited for any role that manages other people, because he is not honest or open about his accountable actions.
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post Thu 28th October 2010, 8:35pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 28th October 2010, 3:16pm) *

I do apologize for my actions to those I hurt or offended.

What about those who were annoyed or slightly disappointed?
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I continue to believe that Philippe Beaudette is ill-suited for any role that manages other people, because he is not honest or open about his accountable actions.

Yup.
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post Fri 29th October 2010, 5:34pm
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QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Tue 26th October 2010, 10:00pm) *

Greg this is the same type of amoral self-justifying shite we regularly get from the worst BLP violators and kool-aid drinkers on Wikipedia.

You are even beginning to sound like JoshuaZ.

Did you know that JoshuaZ has a twin?
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post Sun 7th November 2010, 3:32am
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Moellenberndt is starting to earn her keep.

A couple of weeks ago, our old pal Calton Bolick (or someone impersonating him) was mouthing off on a news blog, as follows:

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Reading the idiotic postings on this thread by the usual cast of GOP NASCAR invisible beings in the sky worshipping jackoffs makes me even more convinced that China will own our asses soon...and I welcome it.

Calton Bolick
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Posted by: Calton Bolick | October 22, 2010 at 07:28 PM


Note that Calton isn't actually a Wikipedia administrator (saints be praised).

So, Christine decided to ask Calton to clarify his status:

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Admin, or not Admin?

On your Talk page, you state in item #1 that you are not a Wikipedia admin. However, in your recent posting on the KTLA blog[1], you sign off as a Wikipedia Admin. When discussing your relationship to any website, you may want to ensure that you refer to yourself as the correct title to avoid any embarrassment to yourself or any inconvenience to the site you are referencing. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to contact us at readers at wikimedia.org. Thanks! Christine (WMF) (talk) 23:47, 22 October 2010 (UTC)


Moellenberndt is also working on suicide intervention techniques, one by one.

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