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Someone wants to change the hallowed SlimVirgin dictum of "Verifiability, not truth", so that it reads "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability; that is, whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source." As one relatively rational commentator puts it, "it corrects the problem that the current wording disparages the concept of striving for accuracy, and the negative impacts that such has had." The nerve! The opponents of the change are a veritable rogue's gallery, lead by SlimVirgin, who modestly says of the wording she coined, "The phrase "Verifiability, not truth" is iconic as a representation of Wikipedia's sourcing and neutrality standards."
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Consider the follwing scenario:

An editor adds something SV doesn't like to an article, citing good, reliable sources. Clearly, SV must revert, in the interests of WP:SV-POV. She could rubbish the sources, or cite WP:UNDUE, or just edit with summary "Tightening up". Whatever. The editor then restores the material, citing WP:V. Would the proposed change:

* Help him?
* Hinder him?
* Not make a blind bit of difference?

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QUOTE(Gruntled @ Sun 12th June 2011, 7:09pm) *

Consider the follwing scenario:

An editor adds something SV doesn't like to an article, citing good, reliable sources. Clearly, SV must revert, in the interests of WP:SV-POV. She could rubbish the sources, or cite WP:UNDUE, or just edit with summary "Tightening up". Whatever. The editor then restores the material, citing WP:V. Would the proposed change:

* Help him?
* Hinder him?
* Not make a blind bit of difference?

Answers on a postcard please.


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Herschelkrustofsky   NOT TRUTH  
Milton Roe   Someone wants to change the hallowed SlimVirgin d...  
Herschelkrustofsky   This latest episode, in tandem with WP:OTTO, has i...  
radek   This latest episode, in tandem with WP:OTTO, has ...  
Doc glasgow   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='276785' da...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='radek' post='276789' date='Sun 12th ...  
radek   [quote name='radek' post='276789' date='Sun 12th...  
HRIP7   Yeah, but the problem is this - if you include ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='276795' da...  
radek   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='276795' d...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Again, who is this "we"? Judging by th...  
radek   Again, who is this "we"? Judging by t...  
Herschelkrustofsky   But you are implicitly advocating that any and al...  
radek   But you are implicitly advocating that any and a...  
Sololol   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='276855' da...  
radek   I inadvertent started a big thread over at RSN abo...  
Detective   does a person citing text to a source actually ha...  
Abd   And I've still gotten no answer to the questio...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Unnecessary attribution does very little harm. It...  
Milton Roe   Do you really trust the average Wikipedia editor,...  
Doc glasgow   I hope that my blog post is unambiguous on this...  
lilburne   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='276795' da...  
EricBarbour   The Telegraph may be a reliable source sometimes, ...  
Doc glasgow   The Telegraph may be a reliable source sometimes,...  
EricBarbour   This latest episode, in tandem with WP:OTTO, has ...  
thekohser   What I want to know is how does this affect Wikipe...  
Milton Roe   What I want to know is how does this affect Wikip...  


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