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What did Jimbo know, and when did he forget it?
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Fri 14th December 2007, 11:26am) *

What did Jimbo know, and when did he forget it?


It looks like she had a sockpuppet at one point :

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(cur) (last) 20:02, 15 January 2007 Danny (Talk | contribs) m (moved User:Seand59 to User:Carolyn-WMF: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "Seand59" to "Carolyn-WMF") (undo)


I can't find the history of that User and think that it's probably been "whiped". Can anybody check a datadump and see if anything interesting turns up?
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It looks like she had a sockpuppet at one point :

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(cur) (last) 20:02, 15 January 2007 Danny (Talk | contribs) m (moved User:Seand59 to User:Carolyn-WMF: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "Seand59" to "Carolyn-WMF") (undo)


I can't find the history of that User and think that it's probably been "whiped". Can anybody check a datadump and see if anything interesting turns up?


not a sockpuppet.

I remember this clearly. the Seand59 was a personal account, when she got officially hired her user name was changed so as to make her official ala danny and danny-office accounts.

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That is troubling, as it reinforces the suspicion that they bailed to avoid being complicit in an irregularity that they were powerless to arrest.


It's also possible that one or both of them were asked to resign.


Danny emphatically denies he was asked to resign, and that he quit for reasons other than this bit with Carolyn. My conversation with him does seem to suggest the lack of response from the board now is/was typical. My guess is he left because he got sick of the "oh nevermind" attitude from Flo.

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QUOTE(Alkivar @ Fri 14th December 2007, 1:11pm) *

Danny emphatically denies he was asked to resign, and that he quit for reasons other than this bit with Carolyn. My conversation with him does seem to suggest the lack of response from the board now is/was typical. My guess is he left because he got sick of the "oh nevermind" attitude from Flo.

I'm sure you would know better than I, as I've never had a conversation with Danny, but when he ran for the board I seem to remember him being very pissed off about what money was being spent on and how it was being spent. If he didn't resign specifically because of information he knew about Carolyn, then it follows that this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Perhaps Jimbo is right when he says (comically) this is "not of much consequence". Perhaps things very much of consequence are in the future!

What I'm saying is, resigning because you know of Carolyn's past and the duties entrusted to her is a pretty good reason to resign. If Danny did not resign because of this, then what the hell else is going on?

Ask Cade Metz, I guess... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)
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the GodKing loyal subjects are getting restless. see jimbo talk page today

Ever notice whenever there is a WP scandal, there always seems to be a guy like Rocketpocket around that appears to have the mentally of a 12 year old? Seriously, it happens every time! Check all the recent scandals, there is always a guy like that around.
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QUOTE(BobbyBombastic @ Fri 14th December 2007, 6:59pm) *

QUOTE(Alkivar @ Fri 14th December 2007, 1:11pm) *

Danny emphatically denies he was asked to resign, and that he quit for reasons other than this bit with Carolyn. My conversation with him does seem to suggest the lack of response from the board now is/was typical. My guess is he left because he got sick of the "oh nevermind" attitude from Flo.

I'm sure you would know better than I, as I've never had a conversation with Danny, but when he ran for the board I seem to remember him being very pissed off about what money was being spent on and how it was being spent. If he didn't resign specifically because of information he knew about Carolyn, then it follows that this is just the tip of the iceberg.


Specifically, he accused Florence of misuse of funds. And he seems to have been in support of Carolyn. From the mailing list: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/found...ril/028748.html

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Mid january, the board asked Brad to stop being ED [emphasis mine] end of january. At
that time, there was no ED, but there was already an ED search planned,
so we had high expectations to have an ED within 3-4 months, say may or
june.


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You, Danny, considers that the staff can very well handle
itself alone, without any ED. Actually, your opinion is that Carolyn can
be the ED. At that point, Carolyn opinion is the same. The board opinion
is not the same.


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But bottom line, this is the board who is choosing the ED. It is not
Danny. Carolyn is fabulous as a COO, and I really hope she choose to
stick with us, even if we are a mad house. The job of a COO is a
different job than the job of the ED. Both are important and essential.
But they are different jobs. Period. We talked with Carolyn about all
this, and from what we understood, she understand that. She understands
the need for an ED.


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Next step was tuesday morning, one hour way from taking my flight. We
were in Carolyn office. You entered the room and gave Carolyn your
resignation letter. I told you, "please enter the room, close the door
and let us talk together about that". You looked at me in a bland
fashion, said nothing, went out of the room, closed the door and left
the office. Carolyn run after you to ask you what was going on and the
only message she brought back is that we were all crazy. Bottom line:
you refused to talk to me when I proposed that we talk. It is not normal
that you claim I never asked you an explanation, I did and you chose to
not answer.


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